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January 27, 2008 9:52 PM

Huckabee Mocks Romney's Chicken Eating Method

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From CBS News' Joy Lin:

PENSACOLA, FLA -- A reporter asked Mike Huckabee, who famously lost 110 pounds after being diagnosed with diabetes, how he he takes his fried chicken as both a Southerner and health junkie. The question had been inspired by reports that Mitt Romney, in front of his amused media entourage, pulled the skin off his Kentucky Fried Chicken before eating yesterday.

"Going through the weight loss program I try to eat it more broiled and baked," Huckabee said. "But I can tell you this: any Southerner knows that if you're not gonna eat the skin, don't bother with calling it fried chicken."

In jest, Huckabee said, "I'm glad to hear that [Romney] did that because that means I'm going to win Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma -- all these great Southern states that understand that the best part of fried chicken is the skin."

Huckabee compared Romney's skinless fried chicken eating to Gerald Ford eating a tamale with a shuck on it. Recalling hearing about it as a grad school student in 1976, Huckabee said, "That weekend every newscast in Texas led with 'President Ford doesn't know how to eat a tamale."

"He lost Texas," Huckabee continued. "And many believe he lost the presidency, and there are a lot of people who will believe forever that it was the shuck on the tamale -- not Jimmy Carter -- that beat Gerald Ford in 1976. So who knows?"
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by srileygls January 30, 2008 5:39 PM EST
"Why would a man who has been so open about his faith that he has received major criticism suddenly start hiding it? In his open commercial about celebrating Jesus Christ''''s birthday?"

Exactly the point!!! You missed what the controversy was about. It was an obvious white cross to everyone who saw the commercial, but when he was accused of politicking Christ, it was Mike Huckabee himself who actually (stupidly) denied there was a white cross in his commerical. That is what was so incredulous about the entire thing. His denial. He insisted it was just his white bookshelves that just happened to form the image of a white cross, without his knowledge or intention!! lololol THAT is what made the entire thing so ridiculous. I''m cracking up all over again, just thinking about it.
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by srileygls January 30, 2008 3:06 PM EST
"What I don''''t understand is what was with all the righteous indignation over the question being asked?"

It reveals Huckabee''s sinister motive, since you''re quite right, he''s a Baptist. Why should he mention anything about the Mormon faith at all? I cannot imagine any scenario in which Mitt Romney would make a reference to a theological belief of Mike Huckabee''s faith.

Compare the slander Huckabee puts out there with the actual LDS doctrine on the subject (in my former post.) After comparing the two, if you don''t think it has been reduced to "Jesus and Satan are brothers" for the purpose of deceiving, alarming and repulsing people towards the Mormon faith, then you also probably think McCain was being forthright and honest when he accused Governor Romney of proposing a timetable for bringing the troops home immediately. It''s the same thing. It is born out of the same malicious motive.

The bible provides illuminating doctrine about how to possess spiritual discernment and truly have "eyes to see". Do you know what it is?
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by quo_vadis-2009 January 30, 2008 8:05 AM EST
As for the supposedly deceptive Christmas ad, it''s a lot like the emperor''s new clothes. Except in this case, everyone is so cynical they are afraid to admit there was no subliminal cross there.

My devout family with crosses all over our house watched it 4 times before we heard the secret cross conspiracy theory. All we saw was a window behind him with Christmas lights (we thought at the time, now we know it was a bookshelf). We did not see the supposed cross until we were told to look for a cross - when you are deliberately looking for it, then of course you see it.

Why would a man who has been so open about his faith that he has received major criticism suddenly start hiding it? In his open commercial about celebrating Jesus Christ''s birthday?

Huckabee''s supporters were having fun for weeks picking out all the secret "crosses" in the other candidates'' ads that no one else seemed to notice...
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by quo_vadis-2009 January 30, 2008 7:58 AM EST
Srileygls,
If a Baptist goes to a Baptist college to study to be a Baptist pastor, I think it is safe to assume that he is going to be studying the Baptist religion not Mormonism. It''s not like they have to have a degree in comparative religion - and it turns out that his question was true.

Meanwhile, I appreciate you clarifying the Jesus and Satan were brothers thing, but I already heard the LDS spokeswoman explain it. What I don''t understand is what was with all the righteous indignation over the question being asked? The LDS had an opportunity to clear it up. It''s like Romney is ashamed of his beliefs or something. The media had already made much of the fact that he would be the first Mormon president if elected - anybody who was not going to vote for a Mormon would have already been not voting for him anyway. All I saw was that it gave Romney lots of free media & the chance to look like a victim. Kinda over the top, wasn''t it?

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by srileygls January 29, 2008 6:56 PM EST
Being discerning is not the same thing as being angry. You are free to dig Mike Huckabee all you want. Below the thin surface of all of Huckabee''s clever(trite) cliches and his talk about Christianity (while being so transparently sly) he comes across as an angry man somewhat consumed with envy towards those who have more than he does(the pride of the have-nots is always more bitter/resentful than the pride of the rich.) Someone needs to teach him (maybe you?) that coming from a less privileged background does not necessarily make you more christian, more loved by God, or bestow you with great leadership skills. In my humble opinion, he does not seem smart enough, educated enough or talented enough to be the leader of our country. And I am amused that he actually thinks that the American people want "the guy who got laid off with you" (or a guy who can play a guitar) to be the guy we want in the White House, running our country, dealing with our economy and protecting us from the next terrorist attack. But hey, I do not presume to possess more than my own opinion here (though I believe polls show he is a yawn.....non-contender at this point) so yeah, sure, Go Huckabee, if he is the guy you want to "float your boat." (smiling while typing-- not at all angry)
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by mikeinkc2 January 29, 2008 4:53 PM EST
Srileygls: I''m not going to argue with you. Obvioulsy you have your mind completely made up and the introduction of any additional facts I and others have offered aren''t going to change that. I think that both Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney are basicaly good and honorable men, but I am more closely aligned with Gov. Huckabee''s positions on the issues; which is my right. Your right to align with Gov. Romney is yours and yours alone.

My father used to say: "It''s impossible to have a battle if wits with an unarmed opponent." I don''t think that statement necessarilly applies to you as you seem to be well versed in the Mormon religion, which I, like the majority of Amricans aren''t. I have admitted that I don''t know as much about your faith as I perhaps should and have thanked you for making me more aware of that and am willing to learn. But you are obviously not willing to open your mind to accept the possibility of other perspectives and that there may be more to the story than what you currently know.

Again, I applaud your enthusiasm, but I''m not going to argue with someone who is as angry and closed minded as you seem to be.

Best of luck to you!
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by srileygls January 29, 2008 2:13 PM EST
"The question Gov. Huckabee raised in this interview was, as the Governor explained, an inquiry to satisfy his own theological curiosity and was not meant to be disrespectful."

....And those white bookshelves "just happened" to form a white cross behind him, without his knowledge or intent, during his TV Christmas ad.

Just another not-even-subtle Huckabee deception. And all the while he shamelessly pedals his Christianity (as if no other candidate is a Christian) as a means of getting himself into the White House. The polls reflect how many people are buying it. I know for a fact that other candidates running in this election feel their relationship with Jesus Christ is far too sacred to exploit in the political arena.

Last point. When Huckabee admits he doesn''t know much about the Mormon religion the question comes to mind, especially about a pastor, How come? Isn''t that your business?
And if you don''t know that much about religion, what makes you think you can add so much more to your plate?

Bible 101: Seek and prove all things. If the extent of one''s seeking and desire for knowledge is to share some controversial slander "you''ve heard" with a TV reporter about a religion you''ve never bothered to learn anything about, well.....(inject your favorite Huckabee cliche here).
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by mikeinkc2 January 29, 2008 1:26 PM EST
Srileygls: I applaud your devotion to your faith. In an answer to your question, Quo_Vadis just answered part of it for you. The Church of Latter Day Saints own web site makes the very same assertion. As for the part of your inquiry as to how Gov. Huckabee could ask such a question; if you knew more about the interview, you wold know that the reporter asking the questions of Gov. Huckabee claimed to "know something of the Mormon faith" and the question Gov. Huckabee raised in this interview was, as the Governor explained, an inquiry to satisfy his own theological curiosity and was not meant to be disrespectful. The Governor went on to admit that he knew little about the Mormon faith- as is the case for a large number of Americans. Gov. Huckabee was enough of a gentleman to personally explain to Gov. Romney what transpired between himself and the reporter and went on to apologize if any offense was taken as none was meant. I also have to ask: is it suprising to anyone that the media would twist what was an innocent exchange of ideas between an interviewer and interviewee into an overblown issue for the sake of sensationalizing the event to attract attention to the article? Again, I applaud you for your dedication. Admittedly, I do not know as much about the Mormon faith as I perhaps should. This exchange has raised my curiosity about Mormonism. I thank you for that!
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by srileygls January 29, 2008 10:30 AM EST
There is not one LDS doctrine that Mormons are not willing, even very eager, to share. Not one. Our problem is never with true doctrine, but with LDS doctrine that is tweaked to becomes a caricature of itself. Do you think "Mormons believe Jesus and Satan are brothers" sounds like this? We all lived in Heaven with God our Father before we were born, including Lucifer, BEFORE he rebelled and BEFORE he became Satan, the father of all lies, and was cast out of Heaven. This includes the 1/3 of those rebellious spirits who were cast out with him. We were there. All who kept their first estate and have been born into this world were included among the 2/3 of those spirit children who did not rebel, who remained in heaven with God and with Jesus Christ, our elder brother, God''s first-born. Having the same God and Father means we are all, literally brothers and sisters, the very offspring of God our Father, just as the scripture in Acts teaches us.

Now, you tell me. Does that sound like the same doctrine to you?
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by quo_vadis-2009 January 29, 2008 7:22 AM EST
Srileygls - I have asked many people who shared your desire to make an issue of the outrageous question asked by Huckabee "Don''t Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan were spirit brothers?" the same question - since the LDS admits to this belief on their own website, what was the big hairy deal?

I heard the statement made by the LDS spokesperson about how it is used by people seeking to attack Mormons, but I am still at a loss on this one.

I am Catholic & have heard every bigoted, anti-Catholic slam you can think of. The difference is that those things are not true - but we still generally try to use those accusations as opportunities to clarify our faith for outsiders.

It''s not like Catholics haven''t had lynch mobs & church bombings, etc to deal with in our country''s history, too. Why is it that the same Mormons who send out missionaries to knock on doors all over the country apparently prefer not to share their beliefs outside of an intimate one-on-one type setting?
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