PTO does not work because employees subconsciously think they are using vacation time when they are sick and thus cutting down on their fun time off leading them to come to work sick. There is less illness among employees when there is both vacation and sick time off. However, I really don't know the advantage for an employer to convert to PTO.
wow - I am surprised that people do not like the PTO system. I love it. I can use my time off for anything I want. And since I general do not get sick then its more time for me. Before I would have to pretend to be sick so I could stay at home for a maintenance repair. And if I didn't use my sick days I lost them. But I will confess I at my current job I get 25 PTO days plus holiday a year and can roll a certain amount over to the next year. Its a huge perk! So maybe my view is skewed by that.
I hope she keeps that opinion to herself - 'cuz there are surely employers who will do what they can to make their employees sick with the thought that they will increase productivity.
This is one of the jacked up two-way streets of life at work. If employers didn't decide to be cheap and start this PTO cost-saving crap, employees would stay home sick. And if people didn't falsely abuse the sick leave policies when it existed, employers would have never established PTO, but this falls on the managers, because if they did their jobs and reprimanded the abusers of Sick Leave and not let the issue of abuse exacerbate, PTO would have never been a need. Now everyone suffers. I used to work in an office that established PTO, and the entire floor had a flu virus that circulated for over a YEAR, because no one wanted to use their vacation time to stay home to recuperate.
One time in class the person who sat next to me came in sick. The next day, my birth day, the same virus infected me. People who come in sick often have no regard for other people. Same goes for those who don't wash their hands after using the bathroom. While you don't have to be OCD, you also don't have to be a dirt bag either. Tripe Tripe Tripe Triffle
I'm not saying people who have a sniffle should stay home sick and I understand there are many people who abused sick leave but dog-gone, this whole thing of going to work sick is a bunch of nonsense. Back in my day we had two weeks' sick leave plus two weeks' vacation. We stayed home when we were sick and took care of ourselves properly. Every year there would be a flu virus that would knock me out of work for an entire week, so sick I could barely get out of bed.
I absolutely hate it when I go to town and get checked out of a store by a sick cashier or some such. They're touching my FOOD as they ring it through and I have to touch it after I get home. For over a decade I had a chronic illness that affected my immune system. When I got a flu virus I wasn't just out for a week, I was out for a month to six weeks. Two viruses a year were all I needed to end up spending months almost on my back.
How many older people end up dying because they contracted a flu virus from someone working while they were sick? I personally know at least one. He had health problems and wasn't long for this world anyway, but he ran into a flu virus that killed him in sight of a week. I don't suppose that really matters to people who work when they're sick but it most likely would matter if that person was one of their loved ones.
People don't end up passing the "same" virus round and round and getting sick off the same thing all over again. By keeping on with what we "need" to do instead of staying home and getting over something we're infecting so many people with our bugs that they're likely mutating to the point where our immune systems are no longer recognizing them so it appears we have the same thing all over again.
I don't know about the rest of you but I am sick and tired of being sick and tired all the time from people working when they're sick.
As a small call center manager for several years, I had many operators come in sick. Even though the 'fear' is that one sick person could wipe out the entire call center; it never happened.
The company I was with used PTO also, and people do have a tendency to come in sick, versus staying home, getting charged a day's vacation/sick day, and losing that vacation day for later.
Now if a person came in 'walking dead;' that might be different story. Yes there are contagious colds out there; but clearly sending every little sniffle home wouldn't be the solution.
We had a temp in our office that was forced to go home when he was sick. He didn't have medical insurance and don't get paid when he's not working. So I don't think anyone should be forced to go home unless they are contagious
A whole bunch of us don't get sick days. We also don't get paid if we take a day off. We also get docked pay if we leave early or come in late. The workplace is basically biased for the employer. Workers rights? Like you see on the Equal Opportunity posters they like to slap around the walls of a shop, are smoke and mirrors. OASHA is a joke. So why should I take a day off when I feel like crap? I like to spread the pain around. If my boss catches it and dies...well that's gods will ain't it.
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I absolutely hate it when I go to town and get checked out of a store by a sick cashier or some such. They're touching my FOOD as they ring it through and I have to touch it after I get home. For over a decade I had a chronic illness that affected my immune system. When I got a flu virus I wasn't just out for a week, I was out for a month to six weeks. Two viruses a year were all I needed to end up spending months almost on my back.
How many older people end up dying because they contracted a flu virus from someone working while they were sick? I personally know at least one. He had health problems and wasn't long for this world anyway, but he ran into a flu virus that killed him in sight of a week. I don't suppose that really matters to people who work when they're sick but it most likely would matter if that person was one of their loved ones.
People don't end up passing the "same" virus round and round and getting sick off the same thing all over again. By keeping on with what we "need" to do instead of staying home and getting over something we're infecting so many people with our bugs that they're likely mutating to the point where our immune systems are no longer recognizing them so it appears we have the same thing all over again.
I don't know about the rest of you but I am sick and tired of being sick and tired all the time from people working when they're sick.
The company I was with used PTO also, and people do have a tendency to come in sick, versus staying home, getting charged a day's vacation/sick day, and losing that vacation day for later.
Now if a person came in 'walking dead;' that might be different story. Yes there are contagious colds out there; but clearly sending every little sniffle home wouldn't be the solution.