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- If this is a "tease" to get me to watch this segment on 60 min, there was ABSOLUTELY nothing in this to intrigue me. I was as bored with the questions as Roger was.
I know I've heard these questions/answers for years and years and years. What really killed me was the question of how much money they'd make for one last reunion...which is SUPER disrespectful to Richard Wright's family I can't even say.
60 min and Steve...c'mon...from the last bastion of journalistic excellence, find today's story and make it relevant. - Reply to this comment
- One thing that this interview proves is the persistence of the performer's persona. It's not just ego, as has been suggested as the reason for Pink Floyd's break-up. The creative individuals who contributed so much to this band's and the global community's evolving consciousness through the past few decades are so durable because their creation was made to last, and they are held to the same standard by millions (perhaps billions) of fans. The collective belief that Pink Floyd "broke up" over these or those creative differences has led to the interminable search for the quid pro quo
"reasons for the breakup".
The fact is that Pink Floyd and their music will live on as an artistic achievement to rival any composer of any musical epoch in history (despite what Roger, Nick or David literally have to say on the subject of the "breakup"). - Reply to this comment
- If you haven't read it yet I encourage everyone to read the Mark Blake biography of the band called Comfortably Numb The Inside Story of Pink Floyd. All of the band members (except Sid of course) are interviewed in it. It is a well written account of the band's history. I highly recommend it.
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- What caused the breakup? EGO....plain and simple
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- Yawn.............................................
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- Hogwash. I think David now deserves his own segment on 60 Minutes.
Let's all face it..., David Gilmour is one of the 3 greatest rock guitarists (not to mention, under-appreciated) of all time! NO ONE bends, squeals, or coneys THAT emotion like Gilmour!!! It is Dave's rhythms and solos that people, ultimately, adhere to. And THE biggest hit off the Wall (Comfortably Numb) was written by Dave!!! I didn't hear Roger mention THAT in the interview. What WAS said is that Roger wrote MOST of the Wall. What that means is that, "Bring the Boys Back Home" and, "Vera" are, indeed ALL Rogers (Roger screaming into a mic in his typical mourning, political way and anything without a solo). They lack Dave's influence and are, "fillers" that, understandably, tell a broader story but, as opposed to the details that make the listenable tunes from Pink Floyd, are no ones, "favorites". When the 3 Floyd members w/o Roger released albums, they were still WONDERFUL musically, just without the, "prick" (musically and socially, I presume).
Now, if you care to embrace the most, "prick" in your Floyd (this listener has come to appreciate the entire gestalt of them), I highly recommend, "the Final Cut" (so called because it's their last studio album together more than a suicide reference. Perhaps both?). They hated each other AND wrote passionately in spite of one another. I figure Dave's solos are ALL he was allowed and they are FIERCE! And it was Roger booting out Nick Mason on the last track of the last album of Pink Floyd!!! How pissed would YOU be if you had played drums on every other song, then Roger wants you out? The other 3 HAD to form and succeed. As they did, mind you!!! Their shows were also great!!!
The 4 wrote at their best together when they hated, but were stuck, and then again when they became free. I will even say that about, "Amused to Death", however, it took Roger quite a round-up of musicians to fill the shoes of what he already had with Pink Floyd.
To sirhippie: That line is from Brain Damage, not Money.
To FLOYDMANDAN: I believe you meant, "obsessed". What you said is what happens to a tooth. - Reply to this comment
- the 70s and 80s albums, metal, animals, dark side of the moon and the wall, have always taken my mind to a special "deep introspective" place that I can't find in other music, unfortunately that includes waters' and gilmore's solo albums..it seems that these two have not written such songs of consequence since they were together,,giant egos? of course,,and millionaires enough not to HAVE to deal with each other,,but imagine the level of music they could come up with together?? hmmmm,,,,
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- I was far to young to remember Pink Floyd before the break up (I was born in '80), and my first real exposure to them was the Wall movie when I was about 7 or 8. I caught a Radio KAOS broadcast in '87 and when I found out KAOS and the Wall had a shared author, I was kind of hooked and have been since and have grown to love the full Floyd catalogue.
I 'get' why it is some feel the need to bash Waters or Gilmour and blame one or the other for the split. I did it for year on the pro-Waters side myself, but ultimately what I came to realize is that nobody outside of Roger, Dave, Nick and Rick knew the full story and there really is no guilty party in all of this.
Ultimately, it's all a waste of breath and energy now to debate this. What happened happened and nothing that is said on a message board is going to fix the last 27 years. Waters and Gilmour mended fences to a certain degree in '05 when they played together for Live 8 and then again in '10 for the Hoping Foundation and '11 for the Wall show in London. Why is it that these two adults, for whom this argument is FAR more personal, can let these differences slide but the fan base feels the need to remain so polarized?
I've seen the Wall in Chicago in 2010 and will be catching a few shows in June. I'd recommend that any Floyd fan who has an open mind to check it out. Those who feel the need to shout into the wind about Gilmour not being there, there's a simple solution: stay home. - Reply to this comment
- Nearly every piece of music that Pink Floyd created, from the band's inception (with Barrett and w/out Gilmore) to its breakup, was genius. Emotional, expressive, thoughtful, theatrical... And everything Waters and the newer PF without him have done since their separation has been mediocre at best, alot of it not worth printing to vinyl (or Cd or MP3 or whatever). So the question seems to be not with whom does the creative genius and juice lie - Gilmore or Waters? - but how can it be that a group of people can make such pure and transcendent art together and yet be so immediately incapable of reaching anything close to those heights without each other?
Live at Pompeii is the best PF out there, by the way. - Reply to this comment
- w/re to the Waters/Gilour debate.....from this fans perspective (& I do consider myself to be a fan of both) I've seen the Gilmour version of Floyd, Gilmour solo & Waters solo (all of Waters solo tours from Pros & Cons to Amused) as well as this latest Waters Wall Tour which I've now seen twice (Oakland indoors last yr & SF last week @ AT&T)....by far Waters puts on a far better show....it's not even close imo.
Bottom line, seems to me Waters cares far more about what he's putting out whereas Gilmour just appears to be "going through the motions"...especially when speaking to performing live. Gilmour will put you to sleep if you're not careful while you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat at a Waters show wondering what's to come next.
Sure would be nice however if just for a handful of shows the 2 could get together for that estimated 4-600 mil Tour....would surely put any Stones, The Who (what's left of'em), Springsteen, U2, etc. Tour to shame....the Tour to end all Tours w/out a doubt. Who knows....perhaps 1 day W&G will put their diffs aside & give in to the greed of the all mighty greenback....though knowing Waters....well lets just say that lofty idea will be "come Hell or high Waters" ; )~
At a minimum, I'm just hoping Waters still has a few more solo Tours in him.....there too I'm thinking this current Wall Tour may very well be Rog's last curtain call.....for Rock music anyway....he may still have another opera or 2 left....but then that really wouldn't get me all too excited.
Thx 60 Mins for a rare Waters interview.....good stuff indeed. - Reply to this comment
