We often hear from those who fight to uphold this practice for those under the age of 18 (even to the blaming of the social maladies of the day on a supposed "lack" of it), but we rarely, if ever, find advocates for the return of corporal punishment to the general adult community, inmate population, military, or college campuses. Why is that?
Ask ten unyielding proponents of child/adolescent/teenage-only "spanking" about the "right" way to do it, and what would be abusive, indecent, or obscene, and you will get ten different answers.
These proponents should consider making their own video-recording of the "right way" to do it.
Children should have a right to their bodies, and the right to say "No!"
Currently in the U.S.:
When an adult does it to another adult, its sexual battery: http://hamptonroads.com/2011/12/va-beach-restaurateur-pleads-guilty-sexual-battery
When children do it to adults, its a "deviant sexual prank": http://www.theday.com/article/20101207/NWS04/101209750
When an adult does it to a person under the age of 18, its "good discipline".
Research/recommended reading:
Spanking Can Make Children More Aggressive Later http://tulane.edu/news/releases/pr_03122010.cfm
Spanking Kids Increases Risk of Sexual Problems http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2008/feb/lw28spanking.cfm
Use of Spanking for 3-Year-Old Children and Associated Intimate Partner Aggression or Violence http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/3/415
Spanking Children Can Lower IQ http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2009/sept/lw25straus.cfm
Plain Talk About Spanking by Jordan Riak http://www.nospank.net/pt2010.pdf
The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children by Tom Johnson http://nospank.net/sdsc2.pdf
"Spanking" can be intentional or unintentional sexual abuse http://www.nospank.net/101.htm
These people were "spanked" as children by adults, and they "turned out just fine":
Man Terrorized After Stopping A Dad From Spanking His Son http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/06/25/man-terrorized-after-stopping-a-dad-from-spanking-his-son/
Woman who prompted SEPTA bus shooting pleads guilty http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-06/news/32079797_1_bus-passenger-guilty-plea-preliminary-hearing
Terrifying footage shows bus gun attack 'after man dared to complain about mother spanking her child' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2022668/Terrifying-footage-shows-bus-gun-attack-man-dared-complain-mother-spanking-child.html
Parents acting out http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/parents-mom-dad-kids-anger-management-attack-celebrity-losing-2020-16632646
This study does not actually provide scientific evidence pro or con about spanking. It looks at "harsh physical discipline" and not spanking specifically. As a child psychologist and a mom, you might be surprised to find out that I spank my child. I talk more about this controversy here: http://www.themommypsychologist.com/2012/07/04/spanking-does-not-lead-to-mental-illness-later-in-life/
by Cru09 July 3, 2012 8:39 AM EDT Dude, you're kind of a d-bag judging other people's parenting. Shame on me for not noticing your douchery when you said LAZY in caps.. God, you think it's lazy parents, but it is you that is wrong with this world.
by Cru09 July 3, 2012 9:10 AM EDT And if you are a parent, I feel really bad for your children.
Cru09
Just reading your comments lets people know what a dimwit you are.
And you don't need to feel bad for my kids. They are wonderful kids. They grew up to be polite, respectful, well liked, adults. And that isn't just my opinion. While they were growing up, I would have other parents tell me how good they were.
And I raised them without hitting them. Imagine that!
I said that I wasn't totally against spanking IF it was necessary and done rarely. I did not have to resort to spanking. Hmmmmm, I wonder if it could be because I did something right? I did a good job, so therefore they didn't become BRATS, where I needed to use physical discipline?
This article is such a waste of my time to read. Is the study even statistically significant. Reading the number 2-7% seems pretty small to me. There are so many other factors that can contribute to depression: obesity, severe injuries, academics, etc. At least Afifi is from Canada, or else I will be mad that my part of the tax has been contributed to the erroneous and misleading study.
This is nonsense. People spank less frequently today than they did back in my day, and we have more violence in school, on television, and in society in general, so that argument that "spanking teaches kids violence" doesn't hold water! http://beyond-politics.hubpages.com/hub/To-Spank-Or-To-Spank-Or-Have-Belt-WIll-Travel
by erasmus111 July 2, 2012 5:48 PM EDT In America, there is a total LACK of parenting. That's the problem.
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And THAT I can agree with!
Right. And if parents were doing their job, teaching their children right from wrong, they wouldn't need to be hitting them. It's not the kid's fault, it's the parent's fault. Someone should be hitting the parent's.
You're damn right I have issues. I'm getting tired of seeing children DIE from their parent's stupidity.
Do you read the news at all? Do you comprehend what you read?
Do you know how many children have died from gunshot wounds because their idiot parents haven't locked up their guns? Do you know how many children have died because they were left in a HOT car? Thousands of kids die because they have incompetent parents. Parents that don't give a damn. Parents that just give their kids a whack instead of actually TEACHING them the right way to live.
Yes, look around you. I doubt that the "spanker" have stopped spanking, so I would say it looks like YOUR way isn't working. It's contributing to the problem.
Sorry, I am 53 years old and my parents used spanking when they needed to, hardly ever, because myself and my sibblings knew they would. 99% of my generation would say the same. Maybe this is why we have respect for our elders, what I see in the younger generations who were not spanked horrible. I have one daughter who may have been spanked one time and to be honest "time out" didn't work. Leave it a parents choice!
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We often hear from those who fight to uphold this practice for those under the age of 18 (even to the blaming of the social maladies of the day on a supposed "lack" of it), but we rarely, if ever, find advocates for the return of corporal punishment to the general adult community, inmate population, military, or college campuses. Why is that?
Ask ten unyielding proponents of child/adolescent/teenage-only "spanking" about the "right" way to do it, and what would be abusive, indecent, or obscene, and you will get ten different answers.
These proponents should consider making their own video-recording of the "right way" to do it.
Currently in the U.S.:
When an adult does it to another adult, its sexual battery:
http://hamptonroads.com/2011/12/va-beach-restaurateur-pleads-guilty-sexual-battery
When children do it to adults, its a "deviant sexual prank":
http://www.theday.com/article/20101207/NWS04/101209750
When an adult does it to a person under the age of 18, its "good discipline".
Research/recommended reading:
Spanking Can Make Children More Aggressive Later
http://tulane.edu/news/releases/pr_03122010.cfm
Spanking Kids Increases Risk of Sexual Problems
http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2008/feb/lw28spanking.cfm
Use of Spanking for 3-Year-Old Children and Associated Intimate Partner Aggression or Violence
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/3/415
Spanking Children Can Lower IQ
http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2009/sept/lw25straus.cfm
Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak
http://www.nospank.net/pt2010.pdf
The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson
http://nospank.net/sdsc2.pdf
"Spanking" can be intentional or unintentional sexual abuse
http://www.nospank.net/101.htm
Man Terrorized After Stopping A Dad From Spanking His Son
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/06/25/man-terrorized-after-stopping-a-dad-from-spanking-his-son/
Woman who prompted SEPTA bus shooting pleads guilty
http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-06/news/32079797_1_bus-passenger-guilty-plea-preliminary-hearing
Terrifying footage shows bus gun attack 'after man dared to complain about mother spanking her child'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2022668/Terrifying-footage-shows-bus-gun-attack-man-dared-complain-mother-spanking-child.html
Parents acting out
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/parents-mom-dad-kids-anger-management-attack-celebrity-losing-2020-16632646
http://www.themommypsychologist.com/2012/07/04/spanking-does-not-lead-to-mental-illness-later-in-life/
Dude, you're kind of a d-bag judging other people's parenting. Shame on me for not noticing your douchery when you said LAZY in caps.. God, you think it's lazy parents, but it is you that is wrong with this world.
by Cru09 July 3, 2012 9:10 AM EDT
And if you are a parent, I feel really bad for your children.
Cru09
Just reading your comments lets people know what a dimwit you are.
And you don't need to feel bad for my kids. They are wonderful kids. They grew up to be polite, respectful, well liked, adults. And that isn't just my opinion. While they were growing up, I would have other parents tell me how good they were.
And I raised them without hitting them. Imagine that!
I said that I wasn't totally against spanking IF it was necessary and done rarely. I did not have to resort to spanking. Hmmmmm, I wonder if it could be because I did something right? I did a good job, so therefore they didn't become BRATS, where I needed to use physical discipline?
http://beyond-politics.hubpages.com/hub/To-Spank-Or-To-Spank-Or-Have-Belt-WIll-Travel
In America, there is a total LACK of parenting. That's the problem.
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And THAT I can agree with!
Issues...
You're damn right I have issues. I'm getting tired of seeing children DIE from their parent's stupidity.
Do you read the news at all? Do you comprehend what you read?
Do you know how many children have died from gunshot wounds because their idiot parents haven't locked up their guns? Do you know how many children have died because they were left in a HOT car? Thousands of kids die because they have incompetent parents. Parents that don't give a damn. Parents that just give their kids a whack instead of actually TEACHING them the right way to live.
"We all turned out pretty well...and we grew up to be decent adults and good people."
So YOU say. : )
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Well, just look around; YOU'RE way ain't working out very well. Simple as that.
And I will say it again, how do you know my way doesn't work if no one is trying it? Or if you don't know anyone that is doing it?
You sound like a dumb ass.
If anything, not spanking makes you a f*ckin loudmouth.
Wow, now there's some logic.
Please tell me that you don't have kids.