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workingwithautism says:
Interesting article.
Working with Autism, located in Los Angeles, has helped hundreds of children with an Autism Spectrum Disorder to achieve their maximum potential for independence. www.workingwithautism.com
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myelin1 says:
This type of study gives reseachers a point of reference to work backwards from. If we know that there is a certain facial phenotype associated with ASDs, then we can work backwards to the point in time of neural development of the face. Although this point isn't really clear from this article. The only thing that is mentioned is, "Knowing that point in time could lead us to identify a genetic cause, a window of time when the embryo may be susceptible to an environmental factor, or both."
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bpatient says:
This study supports earlier work that indicates that autism begins with abnormal fetal developmental. Further evidence was presented today at CHEST 2011, the annual meeting of the American College of Chest Physicians.

A bronchoscopy study of more than 350 children, including 49 children with ASD, showed that 100% of the children with ASD had an unusual branching of their upper airways (atypical symmetrical "doublets"), while none of the of typically-developing children had that branching pattern.

Since branching of the upper airways is completed by 20 weeks before birth, this, like the differences in facial structure discussed here (which are also linked to events early in fetal development) and the brain overgrowth in ASD (that can be explained only by dysregulation of neurogenesis before the third trimester of pregnancy) strongly suggest that prenatal origin of ASD.
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RunsWithWolves says:
Just more thrashing around with Autism causes and symptoms. They are no closer to finding a cause for autism than 25 years ago. A couple of times a year, we get new breaking news about autism......nothing of substance.
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puzzler125 says:
Um, DUH! Has no one else ever noticed how similar boys with autism look?
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kenhamlett says:
I would not put much faith in this at all. The first thing to realize is that Autism is not one disease or disorder. There are many causes but are lumped together because that is how these doctors make the most money. Even if some small subset of the afflicted have a genetic disorder it says nothing about the others.
Also note that many of these researchers are psychiatrists. That means they are frauds from the outset and even if their babble were rooted in fact, which it is not, they would not be qualified to cure any of the many problems that are lumped in the autism category. They make their money through useless research and by "helping" without curing (which means they sit around doing nothing).
The remaining doctors would be better off finding real causes for each person instead of grouping so many different problems under one category. You can't find a cure for pesticide poisoning by treating it like a vitamin deficiency which in turn can not be treated like a genetic defect.
Specific to facial features, fake doctors have tried for centuries to to prove various deficiencies by external appearance. It rarely worked. This is the thought process of the eugenics reformists, not the healers.
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maurine9 says:
There is no such thing as a genetic epidemic. Where are all the 50 and 60 and 70 year olds with odd faces? They don't exist.
maurine meleck, SC
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whiteandnerdy9397 replies:
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The data on 50/60/70+ year-olds has been provided before.

Also the fabrication of the autism epidemic has been explained innumerable times.

Just because you refuse to look doesn't change the facts.

Good news: the courts are willing to look and things are looking pretty dark for the anti-vaccs. Of course you won't find these cases on a dishonest website...

W&N
paisleygirl143 replies:
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Where are all the 50, 60, and 70 year olds with autism? They're walking around undiagnosed. Only now they're being discovered because of their children's diagnosis.

I didn't speak more than a few words until I was over 3 and I didn't respond when my parents interacted with me. They thought I was deaf but in the late 70s and early 80s, most doctors weren't aware that these are classic symptoms of ASD. So when I started reading on my own at 4, it was thought that I just developed late. Now at 37 and a lifetime of being misdiagnosed as mentally ill, having every disorder out there all of which medication made worse, I was finally diagnosed as having Asperger's Syndrome. Now we can clearly see the traits in both of my parents, an aunt, an uncle, a cousin, and my grandma. So there are your 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70 year olds.
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maurine9 says:
And I thought that the freeway study was ridiculous. This study might even trump that. From the information given here(without reading the whole study) one cannot even say if all the 64 children on the spectrum had these so-called different facial features. Did they have all of them, some of them, few of them? Researchers keep reaching for anything to explain the present epidemic because nobody(except those parents that know that their children were perfectly normal until their vaccinations) wants to demand that all important study of fully vaccinated vs fully unvaccinated children instead of wasting money on face studies, freeways, too much rain, too much Sponge Bob, old parents and on down the block. How do some of these commenters know what our children could do or were like before they developed autism.?
It's absurd. Maurine Meleck, SC
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weritas replies:
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You might be interested in reading at least a small sampling of the many articles that have long supported this view. These will get you started:


Firestone P, Peters S. Minor physical anomalies and behavior in children: a review. J Autism Dev Disord. 1983 Dec;13(4):411-25.

Rodier PM. Minor malformations and physical measurements in autism: data from Nova Scotia. Teratology. 1997 May;55(5):319-25.

Hardan AY et al. An MRI study of minor physical anomalies in autism. J Autism Dev Disord. 2006 Jul;36(5):607-11.

Tripi G et al. Early Hum Dev. 2008 Apr;84(4):217-23. Minor physical anomalies in children with autism spectrum disorder.

Ploeger A et al. The association between autism and errors in early embryogenesis: what is the causal mechanism? Biol Psychiatry. 2010 Apr 1;67(7):602-7.

Ozgen, H et al. Minor physical anomalies in autism: A meta-analysis. Molecular Psychiatry. 2010 5(3), 300-307.

Cheung C et al. MRI study of minor physical anomaly in childhood autism implicates aberrant neurodevelopment in infancy. PLoS One. 2011;6(6):e20246

Angkustsiri K et al. Minor physical anomalies in children with autism spectrum disorders. Autism. 2011 May 24. [Epub ahead of print]

Deutsch C et al. Embryologically-Derived Measures of Dysmorphology Among AGRE Multiplex Autism Probands. International Meeting for Autism Research. 2011. Abstract.
whiteandnerdy9397 replies:
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In other words, you refuse to actually read the study.

Can't look at the data that autism starts in utero can we? Then you might begin to understand that the vaccines cause autism is nothing more than a scam.

I take great comfort from the fact that anyone can use Google and see that you absolutely know for a fact that there is data on autism risk in vaccinated kids vs. 100% unvaccinated and that vaccination has no effect.

This continued misrepresentation on your part is extremely helpful for understanding the true nature of the anti-vaccs.

W&N
myelin1 replies:
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There is no scientific evidence to suggest a link between vaccination and autism. Please do your research.
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skithebumps says:
These kids don't have distinct features. They just like to draw on their faces with felt tipped pens as you can see in the photo.
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berlinfoto-2009 says:
With the extreme increase in incidence of this disorder, it would tend to suggest something environmental, something that, infants and children were not exposed to, in former times, or something their parents were not exposed to.
Like it or not viruses splice their DNA with ours, humans would not be human with out having had viruses that have spliced themselves in to our DNA. Vaccines are usually dead viruses or modified viruses.
Maybe it is the mothers and or fathers vaccines that is causing this problem.
Why do people seem to think, that any new idea that Governments, want to impose on citizens is good. The problem is you people are not capable of thinking for yourselves.
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brucesmall replies:
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Your initial statement that there has been an extreme increase in this disorder is incorrect. The sum of the various disorders has not changed significantly. What has changed is a shift to a specific diagnosis from several general conditions. Those numbers are up, the others are equally down.
berlinfoto-2009 replies:
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I little more food for thought, the way medical research in the United States is funded, makes medical research a little like when "a drunk looks for his house keys under the street light, when he knows fully well that he dropped them on the dark sidewalk leading to his front door. When asked why he is looking under the street light his answer is he can see there, and can not see in the area where he dropped his keys."
The number one job of any scientist, is to keep his government in power, and that includes not doing research that would threaten government programs that are in place, no matter how damaging they are to that nation or society as a whole.
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