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- Sometimes we can read something and the best response that can be given is "WOW". It is sad that this situation has happen, whether it may be true or not. I sat and read all of the comments that were posted, some for the pastor and some against. I also read a lot that had to do with how to discipline your child.
First let me say this, I am not voicing my opinion to tear anyone down nor to build myself up. It is what it is, just that, my opinion. Now with that being said; No-one was inside of the Dollar household when this happened so therefore no-one actually knows the truth but those that were involved. And instead of fussing, complaining and throwing accusations, we as Christians need to pray. We need to pray for the man of God as well as pray for his children, because obviously there has been some sort of breakdown in the family unit. If the pastor had done what his children said he had done, he was wrong and should be punished, and vice versa if the children have lied on there father, they should assume the same fate. However, we should still pray for the restoration of all that are involved. We have to understand that we tear people down way more that we build them up. The bible says that we have help restore our brethren. I for one did not see any of that in this article nor in any of the posts that followed it.
And as far as disciplining our children, people please. You already know that what works for one does not work for another. But there is a big difference between SPANKING and BEATING. For those that a opposed to spanking your children, that is your right and I wont dispute you on that. But on the other had don't judge those that find it to be useful when it comes to disciplining there children. I understand that we have used the scripture "Spare the rod and spoil the child", until it has become an all too common cliche. So allow me give another scripture that is rarely heard. "Foolishness abounds in the heart of a child but the rod of correction drives it far from thee. That is not to say that talking to and teaching your children does not work, it is just set as additional motivation to do the right thing. - Reply to this comment
- Wake up and smelled the coffee, i called my mom and told her i read where Creflo Dollar got arrested, the first things she told me,"that 15 year old is just trouble,the devil is busy he just in the last 3 week preached a powerful sermon, so i don't care what she said, I told her her sister 19 witness the abused, she studder,then i had to reminded her of the incident where the pastor where we attended church years ago who was known in pentecostal as a great preacher was touching me when he said he wanted to teached me how to drive, but i stood up to him calling him " a big black ugly bear and so on, I told him I'm going to tell my mother and he said "They won't believed you, I told him when i tell my momma she will, then he try to used the word on me "Obey them that have the rule over you", I told him to shut up, when i got out the car i ran to my mother and told her, Do you know i reminded her of what she told me "Don't tell your dad, he will killed him, we will leave the church, at that time i was 10, my mother on the other end was shock,and couldn't say anything on the phone after that to think I came to the church unexpecting b-4 the incident and pus a door open and he had one of the girl was age one legs up and kissing her, no telling how many young girl is had messed with,to this day my father still don't know this happen now that he is ill and can't remember. So you see it happen, People get caught in the man and not God, man is human and he makes mistake, so don't dogged out the child, let the courts handle it, my mon also told me "God word will go forth even if it come out of a hellish mouth, I replied, true, but it don,t exempt him for the wrong he is doing, he has to reap like anyone else in the eyes of God . I study God word and i'm more knowledgable now then ever. you want to know what happen to the preacher, 15 years later he found out he had cancer and so happen his daughter was in a shelter at the time and the new cast came in and so happen they chose to speak to her, it strange, but when its time for you to be exposed its nothing you can do, she told them her father had been molesting her since the age of 5, at that time she was in her 30's, and when it hit T.V, the churches got news of it, at that time I was 30's, sitting in church when they brought it across the pulpit and the first words that they said was " The Devil was busy and trying to destroyed this pastor, but little did they know it was true cause he tried it with me, That story brought back up to my mother kept her mouth shut, Yes you need to prayed for the pastor but not only him his daughter also and keep an open ear and let the courts handle it wuth God as the upper judge over them. He that without sin cast the first stone, let God be the judge.
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- "Dollar, like Bishop Eddie Long, has built successful ministries on the prosperity gospel, which teaches that God wants to bless the faithful with earthly riches. Ministers in this tradition often hold up their own wealth as evidence that the teaching works."
Hold up...biased much? Dollar, like any number of ministers...why link him to Eddie Long. I don't follow either man, but I've never seen them together preaching. Also, they actually teach that God blesses in all ways. Only one of which is with earthly riches. Earthly peace and clarity or other ways God blesses the faithful. Dollar and other ministers like him preach that a full range of blessings are available from God. Apparently having money is the blessing that causes a problem for people. Clearly it makes more sense to believe in a God that wants people to be poor and suffer. Yeah...that makes a lot of sense. So, so sad... - Reply to this comment
- Everyone on here "crying me a river yelling ABUSE" One word STOP IT. Kids these days need correction at home, First and foremost I am not a fan of Rev Creflo Dollar, however dont condemn this man for DISCIPLINING HIS CHILD. If what she says is true, he does need to repent for the anger that might have caused him to result in being too rough with his daughter HOWEVER THE WORLDY FOLK that is running there mouths about "CHURCH FOLK" remember the Bible does say "Spare the rod spoil the child" which means""" If you don't discipline your children you may raise a HELL BOUND, DISRESPECTFUL, RUDE, OBNOXIOUS CHILD THAT EVENTUALLY GROWS INTO A DISCRACE TO SOCIETY!!!!! Get it together and stop crying ABUSE that is why you see so many Maury shows and other talkshows with these DISRESPECTFUL CHILDREN... Thats because the parents have lost their spines and dont want to stand up and discipline which is part of your JOB DESCRIPTION. Years ago this was never an issue, now you got some of the most arrogant disrespectful children out there you know why???hmmmm MAYBE ITS BECAUSE YOU AS A PARENT THINK ITS ABUSE.....WHAT will you do when that so called "baby" of yours rises up one day and stands flat foot and tries to hit you??? will you call it abuse then??? STOP IT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PROPERLY DISCIPLINING YOUR CHILD without leaving a mark. So dr. Creflo I understand but you ABSOULUTELY cannot be rough with a child but to discipline using force???? Nothing wrong in my book!!!!!!
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- What he did is not discipline. Physical violence with a child is never justified. Period. If your teenage daughter is physically threatening your safety than call the police. Dollar claims everything is fine in his household. Really? You just got arrested. I'd like to know what your daughters think. My full rant about his abuse is here:
http://www.themommypsychologist.com/2012/06/17/creflo-dollar-arrested-for-child-abuse/ - Reply to this comment
- I think there are probably a lot of households in America that appear to be all peaches and cream from the outside, but once you step through that veneer, the picture does a 180.
Until proven otherwise, I think we all should take accusations of abuse, ESPECIALLY abuse of children, seriously....as evidently was done in this particular episode. - Reply to this comment
- Religious zealots consistently act one way and speak another. It's been long apparent that many of them are phonies. People who choose to believe in invisible gods don't strike me as reasonable to begin with.
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- I'm not surprised by Creflo Dollar's denials nor people defending him. And I'm not surprised they are all missing the point.
I was raised in the Deep South, and in an argument with your father or mother, if you raised your voice or threatened them, many times a child would be hit and no one would call it abuse. That was part of the culture. This was true for people in white or black families. Our culture was segregated, but it shared a common connection to violence as the answer for some problems.
As a victim of genuine abuse by my father, (who repented and changed his life by the grace of God) the problem wasn't his violence. And the real problem here isn't that Dollar hit her.
We all know that all sorts of violence is not just excusable, but truly needed in some circumstances of defense and even play, such as football and boxing. Appropriate, measured swats on the bottom for a rebellious child are needed at times. Violence done to Jesus Christ was key in saving his people, according to the Bible. Violence is not the problem.
It's the anger. It's the out-of-control insanity and wild-eyed shouting that still haunt me about my dear father (who now rests in peace and joy with Christ). It's the loss of control that the Bible roundly and in all circumstances condemns.
Proverbs 25:28
A man without self-control is like a city broken into and left without walls.
And all these texts:
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=self-control&version1=47&searchtype=all
Dollar and his supporters are missing the point. I don't fear that you will all beat your children to death. Dollar, like many of us, lack the commitment to act consistently on our hate for those who disrespect us. When big hate lives in little people, that's when self-control disappears. It's the irrational, hateful, angry, inconsistent, and abusive lack of self-control that he showed and that so many justify that actually harms our children most of all.
Solution:
Realize that God, through Christ, shows great love and patience towards those who are disrespectful to him, the greatest of all.
Realize that the Gospel sets us free from being offended by almost anything because our value and our joy flow from that relationship. If I'm intimately connected to God, then humans have less power to hurt me. With God's love in my life, your hate feels a lot less powerful.
Realize that Dollar is like us all--poor when it comes to character. We don't look to pastors' for our examples, but Jesus Christ. - Reply to this comment
- Eczema? Is it not important to this analysis that Dollar is lying, bold-faced and shamelessly, about this detail? Has lying become so normalized that it is an acceptable moral trait?
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- yer all a bunch a loonies....only crazy people post sh$t like that online....hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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