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- Morality? How about you keep your morality to yourself and not judge those of others. What a teacher does outside the classroom and in his/her private home is their business. And I'm sure if YOU made an equally embarrassing mistake, you'd be very upset if people said you should be prosecuted too.
Yes, its illegal to KNOWINGLY distribute pornography to students, but this was ACCIDENTAL. Therefore there's no violation of the law, no prosecution, and no need for her to lose her career. Fortunately for those of us mortals who make mistakes in our lives, the law has a bit of compassion about accidental situations. They'd rather prosecute people who actually INTENDED to show porn to children rather than those who did so by accident.
So stop being so self-righteous and holier-than-thou and have some understanding. This woman may not lose her job or license, but I'm sure she'll have to move several states away and change her name in order to avoid being called "the home porno teacher". Isn't that penalty enough for a mis-click of the mouse when compiling a video on the computer? - Reply to this comment
- I can't believe they thought she would just waltz outside and discuss this with them. She's very fortunate she will not lose her job, but she is going to have a difficult time going to work after that.
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- She may not have done this intentionally but she should definitely step down from her job. That tape will become school legend and she will never live it down. She won't be able to effectively teach in an atmosphere of disrespect. She should quietly leave her job and teach in another state.
As for the Dad, I'd be upset too. He's a jerk if he was the one who provided the tape (and he does show his face on t.v.). But...um...the woman sent out a tape of herself masturbating to school kids that she teaches. So. That would be the unfortunate consequence of the mistake she made. If you're going to do stuff like that you have to be prepared for the results. She's obviously something of an exhibitionist, so, I'm not entirely sure it's even that upsetting to her, who knows it might have been a subconscious intention. - Reply to this comment
- If you toggle back and forth on the video it's pretty exciting.
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- No, probably not ruined. In a couple of years they will brag they were in the class and saw the tape. That's just the way it is.They'll be laughing their heads off, and even tell it at cocktail parties one day. Who wouldn't?
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- First off to tmittelstad - you nailed it. The poster this woman is referring to in her post is me. I put up a post on June 6 in reply to her post. If you got the time go back and read my rebuttal to her on June 6. Again you nailed it - especially the part of how people "repress" theirs and others natural sexual awareness. Your example of Bristol Palin was on the mark as well. She repressed her urges to the point that it just automaticallly boiled over like a "wet dream" if you will. Another example we can throw in there is Hugh Hefner. He's someone I admire though. His parents were devout Christian missionaries. They naturally raised him in their faith, but, he said at an early age he could tell that this wasn't for him, he couldn't see this being his lifes work. He respected an adored his parents and the religion, but he knew he would be hypocritical if he continued being a devout member in that particular religion. So by the time his teens rolled around he went out in his own direction, and the rest is history as they say. Repressing your natural sexual feelings is very dangerous, it leads to a conflicted life and persona. staycalm will never be able to see this because of the way she was raised, and you can tell very intellectual but in the wrong ways. I would love to meet you in person staycalm, you're obviously not a stupid person, but, perhaps being around people with an open mind about human sexuality could possibly show you an entire different way of looking at life and your place in the pecking order. I live here in L.A. I would take time to show you a completely differnt perspective on life, and how sexuality is not pornographic no matter how its shown to you. And yes, kids should be talked to about this at an early age, I have a son myself, and he knows all about sex from me and about girls. tmittelstaed had it correct also when he said in Europe its totally different how they approach sexuality. They do go topless on their beaches, no problem when you see that from an early age it lessens the chance that a child will grow up to be a pervert. Also like I pointed out in post on June 6th America leads the World in sex crimes, divorce, juvenile crime, and like the example of Bristol Palin teenage pregnancies. All thos categories are intertwined. The vast number of Americans are seriously conflicted about sex and anything sexual. I lot of them hopelessly repress what amounts to a natural feeling. Again, sex is completely natural and beautiful, its not nasty, or pornographic. America came up with this. And now they're paying the price with all these conflicted people. Strip clubs make billions now - Whats the number 1 movie at the box office right now. What ever it is, it probably made on average about 45 million on opening day. That pales in comparison to adult movies, Hollywood wish they could make the kinds of money these people make. Escort services and call girls are multi million dollar operations. So now, in order for these people to generate that kind of revenue they need what to do that with? Right, customers. Get the point. Who are all these millions of people that patronize these categories I just talked about. You're right again its Joe the plumber, Billy Bob and Lucille in the midwest, Uncle harry in the east Aunt Sally down south, everyday average people who repressed their sexuality so much, now they've come of age an now they're trying to catch up. Wake up stay calm, get on board this thing called life.
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- Thanks lavaflow and Mrs _happily married for those kind comments. You're right the World, better yet America needs to hear the things I discussed in that post I put up earlier this week. Again thanks!
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- This poor teacher was obviously trying to make a special dvd for her class. Mistakes happen. However, this TOOL who calls himself a father is either fishing for a potential lawsuit or is just as stupid as he sounds. If he cant figure out what to say to his own 5th grader after being exposed to a sexually explicit image or scene, then maybe he is the one who needs psychological help. My concern is if they were watching the dvd together, as he states so freely on the news, didn't he just turn it off? It takes 5 seconds to get off your butt and hit the stop button or pull the plug from the wall. This idiot likely watched the entire scene.
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- I think she's gone through enough embarrassment. This was a mistake and the idiot that handed it over to the press should be shunned for being a crybaby clown.
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- I agree with all of Sea Stallion's comment. First of all, I did not watch any of the video. I only read the comments on CBS, which has become my source for newspapers and magazines , which means I have zero knowledge of the teacher's tape, or the father's response.
However, the limited know how I have of American people, is that an event will happen, one or more persons will respond how event will tarnish, and others will come, saying that they were waiting for the same bus. Of course, by bus I want it known that I mean people will state their interpretation of how said event will scar.
Yes, I am being American, but I want people to know that spreading their difference is not correct. What is correct? Learning how to make positives out of negatives. Step one, for those parents of classmates, return the videos to the teacher.
Why? These DVD's will be needed so the teacher can make the correction, and have these DVD's express the thanks to the students, who are the reason she worked so strenuous, in the hopes that her students will learn to value and enjoy education. Step two, if one deems necessary, will not be given by me.
Thank you for reading my comment.
In closing, I would like to thank CBS for respectful coverage of the events pertaining to the loss of Michael Jackson. Specifically, I thank LL CoolJ for his comments about the uniqueness and specialty of performances by Michael Jackson. - Reply to this comment
- never having made a sex tape, how does it get mixed up with school activities??? not sure i understand how that happened!
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- DOUBLE-SATANDARDS are a beotch! Women get away with EVERYTHING. If this was a man, he'd be fired, brought up on charges that would cause him to register as a s** offender and be publicly flogged. But in this case, well, she's a good little teacher who made a silly litte mistake tee hehehe. She said she was sorry tee hehehehe.
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- I don't see how this could have been a mistake....when doing video recording you always proof them before making the final copy!
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- Hmmm.... where do I begin? Oh yeah, IS WAS A MISTAKE!!!! People have sex. Consenting adults have sex. There's nothing unprofessional, or immoral, or improper about having sex. The teachers true error was recording herself. People never learn. When you record it, it WILL return to bite you in the butt. This was an honest mistake. The teacher is embarrassed enough.
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- You obviously have NEVER had kids. I have and changed many a diaper, bathed my kids many times. From birth onward, all my children reached for their genitals during diaper changing, and in the bath. Why? Simple - IT FEELS GOOD TO TOUCH THEM. I simply ignored the behavior. Why would I tell them NO, BAD and traumatize them at a young age? My guess is that your parents did. I feel sorry for you, you probably either never have s e x or whenever you do you feel guilty.
Children over the age of three DO NOT have a "natural sense of modesty" That is baloney. It is completely trained into them by observing their parents. Go to a nude beach sometime, you will see plenty of FAMILIES with young kids, all the way down to babies, all sitting around with no clothes on, perfectly contented. No "natural sense of modesty" there. In Europe most sunbathing on most beaches is topless, and no kids are traumatized there.
Many surveys have been done on the subject of m a s t e r b a t i o n and most kids admit to taking it up at a young age to the point that they don't remember when they started doing it. Of course they don't - since the natural state is that as soon as they have enough motor control to reach for things, the family jewels are among the things they reach for. And keep reaching for. Until some teriffically repressed **** like you comes along and makes them feel dirty for doing it. So then they stop doing it and get so s e x ually repressed that by the time they are teenagers, with no outlet for their urges, they spend all their time getting into each others pants. And having kids as a result. It's no accident that Bristol Palin came from a conservative family. - Reply to this comment
- If it was a gay man in the same circumstances how would you know? How do you know that this teacher ISN'T gay? There's only 1 person in the video!!!
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- Damn why cant I be lucky enough to have seen my ***** teacher when was a little kid.
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- Thank goodness only a handful of 5th grade students saw this flick by accident; it's not like it became a National Headline or there was a still photo of it on a national television station's website or something! That poor teacher. This got way out of hand.
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- To quote Willie Nelson, "Did you hear about the one where the father told his son if he didn't stop masturbating he'd go blind the son said hey dad I'm over here!"
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- It's amazing how many people use today's movies, t.v. and music to minimize and justify the idea of children watching their teacher having sex. Are you saying that watching one's teacher have sex should be thought of as an ordinary, mundane experience? First of all, most parents try very hard to control what their children are exposed to, especially under the age of 12 or 13. They do this for many reasons, among them 1. not wanting their children's innocence to be stolen, 2. not wanting their children to learn about sex from strangers who may not share their values, 3. not wanting the serious and beautiful nature of the sex act to be trivialized. This increasingly common attitude that "it's just sex" is completely wrong. Sex is how new people are made...there is nothing trivial about this. Sex is how men and women bond spiritually, emotionally and physically...nothing trivial about that either. The poster who keeps comparing pornography to violence to make the point that violence is equally or more pornographic is committing a logical fallacy. That's like saying that greasy hamburgers are just as bad for you as greasy pizza so let's just accept and enjoy greasy hamburgers. Obviously both are bad. What is really surprising here is that so many think it's cute or funny for young children to have been shocked into sex in this way and that it's just as good a way as any for them to learn about sex. You think the father shouldn't ask for counseling because he should be able to explain sex to his own kids. You are missing the point. A father or mother explaining sex to their children would never think to include a chapter on "What to do when your teacher videotapes herself performing sex acts and gives you a copy." This is so far out of the normal course of life and such a shocking thing for a child of that age to witness that no father would really know how to handle it. Keep in mind, t.v., movies and music do not show nude people actually having sex...they imply it or take you to the brink. Most children of that age do not really understand what is being suggested or what comes next. This video, however, showed it all and by someone the trusted and most likely thought highly of. Most people I know, myself included, had a difficult time reconciling our image of our own parents when we first learned what acts they engaged in in order to have us. I can't imaging what it would have been like if I had actually SEEN them creating me. Any teacher or parent will tell you that children over the age of three or four have a natural sense of modesty. They are extremely embarrassed by situations involving sex or nudity. This is the way nature made them and it is for a purpose...they are not yet ready to know these things.
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- You obviously have NEVER had kids. I have and changed many a diaper, bathed my kids many times. From birth onward, all my children reached for their genitals during diaper changing, and in the bath. Why? Simple - IT FEELS GOOD TO TOUCH THEM. I simply ignored the behavior. Why would I tell them NO, BAD and traumatize them at a young age? My guess is that your parents did. I feel sorry for you, you probably either never have s e x or whenever you do you feel guilty.
Children over the age of three DO NOT have a "natural sense of modesty" That is baloney. It is completely trained into them by observing their parents. Go to a nude beach sometime, you will see plenty of FAMILIES with young kids, all the way down to babies, all sitting around with no clothes on, perfectly contented. No "natural sense of modesty" there. In Europe most sunbathing on most beaches is topless, and no kids are traumatized there.
Many surveys have been done on the subject of m a s t e r b a t i o n and most kids admit to taking it up at a young age to the point that they don't remember when they started doing it. Of course they don't - since the natural state is that as soon as they have enough motor control to reach for things, the family jewels are among the things they reach for. And keep reaching for. Until some teriffically repressed **** like you comes along and makes them feel dirty for doing it. So then they stop doing it and get so s e x ually repressed that by the time they are teenagers, with no outlet for their urges, they spend all their time getting into each others pants. And having kids as a result. It's no accident that Bristol Palin came from a conservative family.
- First off to tmittelstad - you nailed it. The poster this woman is referring to in her post is me. I put up a post on June 6 in reply to her post. If you got the time go back and read my rebuttal to her on June 6. Again you nailed it - especially the part of how people "repress" theirs and others natural sexual awareness. Your example of Bristol Palin was on the mark as well. She repressed her urges to the point that it just automaticallly boiled over like a "wet dream" if you will. Another example we can throw in there is Hugh Hefner. He's someone I admire though. His parents were devout Christian missionaries. They naturally raised him in their faith, but, he said at an early age he could tell that this wasn't for him, he couldn't see this being his lifes work. He respected an adored his parents and the religion, but he knew he would be hypocritical if he continued being a devout member in that particular religion. So by the time his teens rolled around he went out in his own direction, and the rest is history as they say. Repressing your natural sexual feelings is very dangerous, it leads to a conflicted life and persona. staycalm will never be able to see this because of the way she was raised, and you can tell very intellectual but in the wrong ways. I would love to meet you in person staycalm, you're obviously not a stupid person, but, perhaps being around people with an open mind about human sexuality could possibly show you an entire different way of looking at life and your place in the pecking order. I live here in L.A. I would take time to show you a completely differnt perspective on life, and how sexuality is not pornographic no matter how its shown to you. And yes, kids should be talked to about this at an early age, I have a son myself, and he knows all about sex from me and about girls. tmittelstaed had it correct also when he said in Europe its totally different how they approach sexuality. They do go topless on their beaches, no problem when you see that from an early age it lessens the chance that a child will grow up to be a pervert. Also like I pointed out in post on June 6th America leads the World in sex crimes, divorce, juvenile crime, and like the example of Bristol Palin teenage pregnancies. All thos categories are intertwined. The vast number of Americans are seriously conflicted about sex and anything sexual. I lot of them hopelessly repress what amounts to a natural feeling. Again, sex is completely natural and beautiful, its not nasty, or pornographic. America came up with this. And now they're paying the price with all these conflicted people. Strip clubs make billions now - Whats the number 1 movie at the box office right now. What ever it is, it probably made on average about 45 million on opening day. That pales in comparison to adult movies, Hollywood wish they could make the kinds of money these people make. Escort services and call girls are multi million dollar operations. So now, in order for these people to generate that kind of revenue they need what to do that with? Right, customers. Get the point. Who are all these millions of people that patronize these categories I just talked about. You're right again its Joe the plumber, Billy Bob and Lucille in the midwest, Uncle harry in the east Aunt Sally down south, everyday average people who repressed their sexuality so much, now they've come of age an now they're trying to catch up. Wake up stay calm, get on board this thing called life.
- You obviously have NEVER had kids. I have and changed many a diaper, bathed my kids many times. From birth onward, all my children reached for their genitals during diaper changing, and in the bath. Why? Simple - IT FEELS GOOD TO TOUCH THEM. I simply ignored the behavior. Why would I tell them NO, BAD and traumatize them at a young age? My guess is that your parents did. I feel sorry for you, you probably either never have s e x or whenever you do you feel guilty.

