Comments on: Inside NYC's Tea Party Protest

[hungry1968-15]

I mourn for our country if we have too many Americans with the same comprehension level. If so, we are truly doomed!
Posted by mortar29 at 1:00 PM : Apr 16, 2009





Might I suggest "US History for Dummies", before you next profess to be a scholar of something you know NOTHING about?

[hungry1968-15]

Hungry is still stuck in simple math. He has no clue about algebra.

Same goes with political science. Still stuck with that Saturday morning cartoon "This is a Bill and it is only a bill and it is sitting here on Capital Hill."

I mourn for our country if we have too many Americans with the same comprehension level. If so, we are truly doomed!
Posted by mortar29 at 1:00 PM : Apr 16, 2009





LOL!!!!

NOW you think that our forefathers used "math and algebra" to set up the federal government after we won our independence from England?!?!

Or is this because you have NO EXPLANATION as to how and why you so thoroughly misunderstood the creation of America, our constitution, our forefathers intent, and everything this country was founded on?

[rfp1959]

Sooo what would happen if we let the banks fail? Uh duh, thats what caused the Depression you mental giants. If the banks fail FDIC would have to cover the losses, as in FDIC tax funded payments. We would lose hundreds of billions of dollars and the economy would sink further into recession/depression. Massive government spending programs WORKED to bring us out of the depression ( World War 2 required huge, 2 Trillion dollars, spending). It is true that the US fell back into recession in 1938 due to a drop in spending just as the brilliant economist John Maynard Keynes - you know, someone who actually knows how economics works - warned it would. We were in big debt after the war but we recovered, just as we will today. The depression taught us that government spending is the ONLY thing that can bring us out of this mess. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Yes, it is true that there is much wasteful spending from both sides of the aisle. But the danger lies not in spending too much but in not spending enough - Nobel Prize Winning Economist Paul Krugman said, and I believe him rather than the Fox Propaganda Channel.

[hungry1968-15]

Hungry, because you have no clue, you dont even realize that the things you posted actually make my point and make you look like an idiot!

Wow!!!
Posted by mortar29 at 12:48 PM : Apr 16, 2009




No stupid - it's proving you to be 100% incompetent!!

You said that the Dept of Treasury was created because the constitution tasked congress with "minting coinage", was in incorrect. The Department of the Treasury was created to manage federal "revenue". The job of "coinage" fell to the state department, which at the time managed "domestic issues" which WERE NOT specifically spelled out in the constitution:

"These responsibilities grew to include management of the United States Mint, keeper of the Great Seal of the United States, and the taking of the census."



Since they WERE NOT spelled out in the constitution, ACCORDING TO YOU, they are unconstitutional, and our congress should NEVER have created them.

Since it was THE FORE FATHERS IN CONGRESS at the time of these departments being created, which WERE NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION, HOW can you say that this was against the fore fathers wishes to manage the government this way?!?!?!?!?!?!

[JLSerrano]

Once again less than 1% of the population trying to control the other 99 %. New York has approximately 19 million plus people. Attendance for the entire states 8 tea parties was slightly over 15000. They would have needed at least 19000 people to make 1% of the population. Averages are the same almost all over the nation. The real tea party began more than 2 years ago. Republicans are being removed as fast as the election process will allow.

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Not taking sides but they were mostly held during working hours for most people. Not everyone can take off in the middle of the day.

[hungry1968-15]

I try not to resort to names but Hungry, you are an idiot!

You dont read the Constitution. You dont read the Federalist Papers. You dont read what the Founders said. And you come here with assinine blatherings. Wow!

The Constitution (of which yo usaid yo uread) states that Congress can create laws that are necessary and proper in carrying out the enumerated powers.

Thus, if deems it necessary to create a Department of Treasury, and the Mint of the US in order to properly coin money and protect it...then they are free to do so because those laws were necessary and proper in carrying out the power given to them on coining money.

My 2 year old gets this! Amazing.
Posted by mortar29 at 12:37 PM : Apr 16, 2009




CARE TO GUESS AGAIN, dummy?!?!?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_mint

"The Mint was created by Congress with the Coinage Act of 1792, and placed within the Department of State. Per the terms of the Coinage Act, the first Mint building was located in Philadelphia, then the U.S. capital. It was the first building of the Republic raised under the Constitution."




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Treasury

"The Department of the Treasury is an executive department and the treasury of the United States federal government. It was established by an Act of Congress in 1789 to manage government revenue. The Department is administered by the Secretary of the Treasury, who is a member of the Cabinet."




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State

"The House of Representatives and Senate approved legislation to establish a Department of Foreign Affairs on July 21, 1789, and President Washington signed it into law on July 27, making the Department of Foreign Affairs the first Federal agency to be created under the new Constitution. This legislation remains the basic law of the Department of State. In September 1789, additional legislation changed the name of the agency to the Department of State and assigned to it a variety of domestic duties.

These responsibilities grew to include management of the United States Mint, keeper of the Great Seal of the United States, and the taking of the census. President George Washington signed the new legislation on September 15. Most of these domestic duties of the Department of State were eventually turned over to various new Federal departments and agencies that were established during the 19th century."





You are so thoroughly, 100% clueless as to ANYTHING regarding how America was created, how the various departments were created, or WHY they were created, yet you proclaim them ALL to be unconstitutional because our founding fathers "didn't include them in the constitution", yet THEY are the people that created these departments, in the manner that you call UNCONSITUTIONAL!!!!!!!!!

[JLSerrano]

I just want a government to obey the law. And that is obviously too much to ask!

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I wish it wasn't

[JLSerrano]

I appreciate your comments Velma. I think like many I have become lost in politics. I want a government that is both socially responsible and fiscally responsible. Is that too much to ask?

[hungry1968-15]

They were BOTH created in EXACTLY the same way!!!

How can ONE be "unconstitutional", and the other isn't?!?!?!?!

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Again ,what are you talkng abut?

The Constitution gives Federal government the authority to conduct foregin policy, to include the military. Thus, it can create things like the Depratment of State and the DoD.

The Constitution, which is has ENUMERATED powers, does not ENUMERATE any power concerning education.

Thus, the Congress can not pass laws in an area it was not given power to legislate in.

Why are you so dense?
Posted by mortar29 at 12:11 PM : Apr 16, 2009





The constitution SAYS:

"To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes."


That is CLEARLY NOT the role of the Dept of State as it was created, so according to you, the creation of the DOS MUST be unconstitutional.

Correct?

[berniew4]

Where in the CONSTITUTION does it say we can have Bailouts of private cos. ???? This is simply thr liberal attempt to control our lives !!