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forrestlayne says:
The reason health care is so expensive is because we are being gouged by greed.
Posted by tincup356 at 9:29 AM : Jun 13, 2009

That is correct.

To everyone supporting universal health care - Why does health care cost so much now and more importantly - WHO ends up with the money? That is the problem. Only when that is addressed can a solution to the problem be found. Anything proposed right now will still end up with all the money going to the same place - only this time it will be ALL Americans paying instead of just some. It will increase total dollars going into the same "black hole" as the money from health care goes now.

Again I ask - WHERE DOES ALL THE MONEY FROM THE EXISTING HEALTH CARE COSTS END UP? WHO ULTIMATELY GETS THAT MONEY?
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vista8635 says:
Last year I paid $200 a month for single person health insurance, with a $1, 200.00 deductible, and a co-pay of $35.00 each time I saw a doctor. For in-network hospital visits I had to pay the deductible before the insurance would pay a penny of the bill. After I paid off the deductible, I had to pay 20% of any hospital bill I got.

Stop government by the corporations, for the corporations. Shoot a lobbyist, if you want affordable healthcare!

"When you have EVERYONE paying, the price will drop big time. How much do you pay now, a month, for health care? If you even have any. A single person, [in Canada], pays $50 a month, a couple pays $90 a month, and a family around $130 a month."
Posted by erasmus111 at 9:04 AM : Jun 13, 2009
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xlib says:
cydygitt-do you honestly think that a government run system would work? Show me one thing the government has run efficiently and without corruption, just one. They screwed up Medicare, they screwed up SS, they screwed up Medicaid and now you want them to run our health care system. Why are the UK and Canada having so many problems? Living on the Canadian border I can tune into Canadian radio and let me tell you, they do not want us to go the same route as them. Story after story of rationing and denying treatment.
I too am in favor of having the same coverage as our "elected federal officials". In fact, I would like them to start paying into SS.
The messiah did drone on in one of his many, many speeches about how he thinks it would be wonderful for the American people to have the same opportunity for the coverage the feds have. Isn't that sweet!

So, his plan is to model this mess after Medicare which is broke. This is a complex problem but I honestly don't believe that government is the answer. Those clowns are already running the auto industry, banks, etc,etc.
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tincup356 says:
The reason health care is so expensive is because we are being gouged by greed. If research and development were really so expensive, then why have there been so many recalls on dozens of big name drugs that were quickly approved by the FDA,and made billions in profits BEFORE they found out something was wrong with them? The people are lied to about everything,the bottom line is that they don't care about the people or what harm their corrupt actions do to the people when profit is the only thing important to them.The big drug companies cause more deaths and financial disaster than what they are worth,,,,,,,they should be held criminally responsible for both manufacture of dangerous drugs, and for fraud in getting them approved by the FDA, and for gouging the American public.
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tincup356 says:
Stop government by the corporations, for the corporations! Shoot a lobbyist, if you want affordable healthcare. LOL
Posted by vista8635 at 8:17 AM : Jun 13, 2009 ................
...................American middle class citizens had better wake up, The ONLY hope we have as a class of citizens, is to rid Washington of BOTH parties.They have clearly betrayed the people of this country and have gone crazy with greed.BOTH parties are in bed with the lobby dollar to the point that to call ANYONE in Washington a representative of the people is an outright lie. They are BOTH destroying this country for the sake of corporate greed......any way I look at it , it boils down to TREASON.
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vista8635 says:
Stop government by the corporations, for the corporations! Shoot a lobbyist, if you want affordable healthcare. LOL
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forrestlayne says:
Health care is readily available and no one is being denied.
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blah...blah...blah.....and how many million Americans have lost their homes due to foreclosure from unpaid or uncovered medical treatments?

You're so short on your facts that doing some homework of your own instead of listening to the same morons on the radio or TV and then posting your rants here would be much more beneficial to all.

62% of those Americans that filed bankruptcy just this past year, said the underlying reason was health care costs, and many were already INSURED, or so they thought!

Americans are denied health care on a daily basis.
Posted by cydygitt1 at 7:40 AM : Jun 13, 2009

Exactly what does the financial part have to do with available health care? Health care is available - I never said it was free or cheap - Seems like everyone want's to believe that peolpe cannot get a broken bone fixed or is allowed to die from a heart attack with no help -

That is BS - the underlying complaint here is that - It costs too much -
Well - Find out why health care costs are so high - follow the money - Where does all that money go? Once you find out that answer then the solution should be clear.

Right now everyone is jumping on the bandwagon and not even looking for the real source of the problem - Where does all the health care money end up? in whose pocket? That is where the problem is - guaranteed.
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forrestlayne says:
blah...blah...blah.....and how many million Americans have lost their homes due to foreclosure from unpaid or uncovered medical treatments?

You're so short on your facts that doing some homework of your own instead of listening to the same morons on the radio or TV and then posting your rants here would be much more beneficial to all.

62% of those Americans that filed bankruptcy just this past year, said the underlying reason was health care costs, and many were already INSURED, or so they thought!

Americans are denied health care on a daily basis, and the for-profit insurance companies are the culprits and the complete root of the problem! Many with health care, decide not to go to the doctor, since they are already paying $10K or more a year for their health care, and cannot afford the co-pays or deductibles in this highly-rigged system!
Posted by cydygitt1 at 7:40 AM : Jun 13, 2009

So you are saying universal healthcare is FREE health care? Nobody has to pay for any healthcare? How is that possible - something for nothing? Why would anyone spend 8 years plus to become a doctor NOT to make money? Why do companies develop new drugs? To give them away?

Some people have their heads in the clouds to think we can have health care for everyone out of nothing. We will all get health care and we will get what the government decides we get. The government will prioritize patients and determine treatments. I guess if certain people have too many health care issues, they will be cut off after they reach their alloment?
How come you people think that this type of government interference is going to be any different than anyhting else the government has done?

You all keep saying "millions of Americans are denied health care everyday" - Name one hospital or health department that has turned away a patient - name one - don't just scream the same false generalizations.

Lack of health insurance does NOT equal lack of medical care.
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cydygitt1 says:
Health care is readily available and no one is being denied.
Posted by forrestlayne
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blah...blah...blah.....and how many million Americans have lost their homes due to foreclosure from unpaid or uncovered medical treatments?

You're so short on your facts that doing some homework of your own instead of listening to the same morons on the radio or TV and then posting your rants here would be much more beneficial to all.

62% of those Americans that filed bankruptcy just this past year, said the underlying reason was health care costs, and many were already INSURED, or so they thought!

Americans are denied health care on a daily basis, and the for-profit insurance companies are the culprits and the complete root of the problem! Many with health care, decide not to go to the doctor, since they are already paying $10K or more a year for their health care, and cannot afford the co-pays or deductibles in this highly-rigged system!
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cydygitt1 says:
Again I ask the question - WHo has been denied healthcare?

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You're missing the big point, and can only repeat the same thing over and over again, since many of these for-profit insurance companies have certainly DENIED health care and dropped many of their insured, to protect their PROFITS.

Right now, 62% of Americans that have filed bankruptcy, say the underlying problem is health care costs, even thought they WERE covered.

Even though they will be treated in a hospital, those without for-profit insurance, are still required to PAY THEM BACK at higher rates than those with health care, or will lose their house or any savings they have. It's not free as you wrongly state, and many of those 50 million UN-insured are barely hanging onto their homes, despite maybe even being unemployed during this economic tsunami.

What's wrong with you? Do you honestly "think" that many go to the hospital E.R. to get treated and walk away without paying or having a bill over their heads as creditors hound them constantly day in and day out? GET REAL!

We need REAL health care reform NOW, and we need to tell these blood-sucking for-profit insurance companies to take a hike, as we mandate some sort of 'single-payer' system for all Americans -- not just the wealthiest or the government employees!
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