Comments on: Obama: Consensus Exists For Health Reform

“We Can No Longer Let The Perfect Be The Enemy Of The Essential,” President Says At White House Health Care Summit

[pepperwood2]

The Slogan of change is good but it could be of two kinds ? a fundamental change for the betterment of our people or a tactical change. How about business as usual. Pay-offs for Congress in the name of Huge pay raises for the Sheriff of Nottingham & his band of tax dodging thieves.

[budmag06]

Funny how liberal socialists use the word "consensus" as a measure to persuade others to their side. It is "peoples" in Russia, Cuba, etc.. I actually heard a socialist on TV the other day say "the peoples health care plan". Like Obama's Marxist comment "share the wealth" occasionally, they do have a slip of the tongue.

[two-cats]

America may have good medical care for those who can afford it, and that number is dwindling by the hour in this economy. Also, Americans are going to Thailand and other countries for surgery because it is excellent and cheaper. Also insurance companies are very, very picky about what they will cover and which drugs they will pay for. Even with these policies, Americans are shelling out thousands simply to keep up their prescriptions or they do without. It's not a good situation at all.

[velma179]

dmb35... I think you are missing a "u" in your screen name.

Get over the tired and erroneous Fannie and Freddie talking point. It's not the root of the economic crisis.
Obama no more wants failure than he wants sticks under his fingernails and fibrous masses protruding from his... well, you get the point.
Nah, on second thought ..YOU probably don't.

[dmb35]

Obama didn't "win" the office; he "bought" it. He is not qualified to run the city pound. He claimed to have the most ethical white house, blah, blah, blah. Look at who he appoints to cabinet: tax evaders, each and every one of them. Hey, that's the solution to the economy problem: collect back taxes from every Democrat politician and that will solve the problem. Must be billions in unpaid taxes there.

The former governor of Arizona denied there was an immigration and drug smuggling problem in her state. There were 400 kidnappings in Phoenix last year. Look at the cabinet position Obuma has chosen for her. It's like the Clinton white house all over again. Keep the change.

[dmb35]

Whenever Obama spoke about economy he used the word "crisis" excessively so that people would be scared into thinking the only way out was to get the stimulus bill passed. When he FINALLY realized that the DOW took a nosedive each time he opened his mouth, he started backpeddeling. Now he is telling us to spend, spend, spend, but stocks, stocks, stocks. He is so worthless as president. He keeps saying this all happened over the last eight years. He fails to mention that Bill Clinton, during his second term in office, insisted that Fannie and Freddie make home loans available to people who didn't qualify for loans. Any dumby knows that spells trouble. Barney Frank and Maxine Waters were insulted during inquisition in 2004 about the lending practice. They insisted there was no problem. I would like to know when these people will be held accountable for the mortgage mess. Instead on blaming President Bush, people need to blame the people who oversee Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. John McCain even warned that oversight was necessary but the votes weren't there and the rest is current history. Obama was too busy working on how to run for president when he was senator so he is too ignorant to get rid of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. Folks, Barney Frank is overseeing where the mortgage money goes. That is frightening. Obama wants failure.

[dmb35]

People from countries with socialized health care come to the United States when their countries won't treat them, either because they are too far down on the waiting list for MRI, knee surgery, heart surgery, etc. or because the United States medical field has developed surgical methods through research other countries aren't capable of doing due to their socialized health care limitations. Question is, where will U.S. citizens go when U.S. medical expertise no longer exists?

[poeticaintit]

I think we should wait to see if all the stimulous money going to cities and businesses is spent on what they were supposed to spend it on...which is highly unlikely. No matter what any one promises to do with the millions/billions the government gives them...the vast majority wil spend it on debt...not jobs or what ever it was supposed to go toward. For example, one city DEEPLY in debt is getting 1.2 million to spend on traffic lights....at least that's what it was supposed to go to....but the city manager has decided to put $900,000 of it toward a huge business center that can't pay the $900,000 inrent it owes.

This kind of thing will happen in cities across the nation....no jobs...no economic stimulous...just to reduce debt. And then they will raise the taxes to make sure the audits tell another story altogether different. Or...they will file bankruptcy...change the name of the company under restructure and never pay a dime back. This is how the government works...whether it is Federal or local. And Obama promised he would 'call them out' if money isn't spent on creating jobs. Now....do you REALLY think government healthcare is going benefit tax payers or the government?

They haven't done what they promised with any program they stuck their big fat noses into...but suddenly everyone has faith in government run healthcare....

[velma179]

It's not "Obama's tanking economy".

That kind of statement, lacking factual basis, is what makes you and those like you unable to bring substance to the conversation.

On another issue... No, not, nada -- wise investors do NOT concern themselves with tax rates before investing. That is patently counter productive. You only pay capital gains when you sell... if you are savvy, you only sell when you can make enough (factoring in the tax rate) to have a profit. Then most often, you will invest again.

People aren't investing right now because of the uncertainty of the outcomes of the companies they would invest in. We are in the "wait" part of the equation. The market will rebound by the end of this year at the latest.

If not, we (being the whole world) are in a mess of trouble and everyone who held back will be held to the fire of their own stupidity -- unable to recoup losses.

[payasyougo]

Maybe this will take everyone's eye off Obama's tanking economy.

[alanrobisch]

help before he spends again. I thought he would have the sense to at least wait for the economy to recover before spending even more money. I guess I was mistaken. He is proposing the spending or approving spending at an incredible rate unprecedented in american history possibly human history

[eightsigma]

Posted by rat_cheer at 6:43 PM : Mar 5, 2009
"And the stock market is dropping faster than it was before he took office."

For those who have been growing cash positions for the last 2 years, it's almost time to get back in. Any movement in the market creates opportunity. The last week has created a LOT of opportunity.

[rat_cheer]

You sound familiar rat cheer.
Posted by kimcon22000 at 6:42 PM : Mar 5, 2009

Well ah've been rat cheer all along.... ;-)

[rat_cheer]

Obama won office by promising change.

Somebody needs to tell him, "change" means doing something DIFFERENT.

So far, all that's changed is the color of the president's skin.

And the stock market is dropping faster than it was before he took office.

[eightsigma]

Posted by rat_cheer at 6:32 PM : Mar 5, 2009
"The majority will change their minds real quick."

Probably not real quick, but eventually they would. That's the way it usually works. Except this time the Republicans have gone "all in" on the bet that Obama will fail quickly. Gutsy play - Win or leave the game.

[rat_cheer]

I would LOVE to be in a position to be paying capital gains right now. Wouldn't you?
Posted by eightsigma at 6:29 PM : Mar 5, 2009

I'm afraid the current president has arranged for that to be a long, long way off for most of us.

[rat_cheer]

It's not this guy you need to stop. It's the majority of your fellow citizens.
Posted by eightsigma at 6:25 PM : Mar 5, 2009

You don't have to worry about that.

Before long they'll be calling him Herbert Hoover Obama.

The majority will change their minds real quick.

[donbl1]

an Obama consensus that has its hand out for government handouts.

[rat_cheer]

Its your beloved OBAMA who"s messing all up. In just 30 days OBAMA did more harm than Bush in 8 years.
Posted by BaghdadsHereAgain at 4:56 PM : Mar 5, 2009


The stock market is dropping faster per month since Obama started than it did under Bush.

When the falling barometer warns that a hurricane is coming, all the Obungle supporters want to do is remind us of the time Bush wore a funny tie.

[eightsigma]

Posted by rat_cheer at 6:27 PM : Mar 5, 2009
"Anybody who makes a move without considering the tax consequences is going to lose his a$$ets."

Bull. I would LOVE to be in a position to be paying capital gains right now. Wouldn't you?