# Obama ad: Romney tax plan hurts middle class

As opposed to the Obama plan, which is to spend like there's no tomorrow. Has anyone noticed there raises (if you're lucky enough to be working and lucky enough to get a raise) are not keeping up with increases in the cost of goods and services.
spend like there's no tomorrow ??????

You must be living in the past - like 4 to 8 years ago.
Mistake- YOUR MONEY ISN'T LONG ENOUGH TO FIT UNDER HIS UMBRELLA! They only need your vote-They don't need you. Can't you tell by the Koch brother and Carl Rove interest that it's more to this than what meets the eye? They need a puppet and who do you think that will be...Nothing and I mean Nothing is Free In America...
Everyone seems to know this except middle class GOP supporters. They're either blinded by color, or so dumb that they can't do the math - the numbers simply don't add up. Mitt will look like an idiot if he doesn't come up with some details of which cuts he'll target for high-enders (many would be obscure and unknown - I'm still not sure how anyone can deduct vet bills for a horse... I have vet bills for my dogs which I'd like to deduct) and for the middle class (which are better known).
Truely this is more complicated than arithmetic. Hopefully we will learn more at the debates.
Yes, this is more complicated than arithmetic but i think it is valid to say that we should start with arithmetic and work our way up to the more abstract points. If it doesnt pass step 1, is there any need to go on to step 2?
Frizzle, If you use arithmetic to quantify a derivative the answer is invalid. We all know that the derivative market contributed to this mess.
"If you use arithmetic to quantify a derivative the answer is invalid"

Please explain. How does using arithmetic to quantify a derivative render the answer invalid?

Yes, the derivative market contributed to the mess we are in.
From wikipedia:

derivative - a measure of how a function changes as its input changes. Loosely speaking, a derivative can be thought of as how much one quantity is changing in response to changes in some other quantity.

Arithmetic - traditional operations of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division with smaller values of numbers; this does not include variables or the effect of change from different inputs.

Considering the number of variables it is absurd to calculate tax policy and national debt reduction with arithmetic. This makes for good political speeches but does little to solve our problems. My opinion is that the people working on avoiding taxes are far more intelligent than the politicians that are making the laws. No matter the intent of the laws, it seems the ones that suffer the most are the middle class.

A politician with some grit would fight to change the tax code but they are all in the pockets of their campaign contributors and lobbyists.
URNSO2,

The definition of the word derivative that you supplied is the mathematical definition. It has a different definition in the context of investments which is what we are talking about here. And yes, arithmetic, at least in part, can be used to "quantify a derivative", as arithmetic can be employed to quantify most things that are not the most abstract of concepts.

"Considering the number of variables it is absurd to calculate tax policy and national debt reduction with arithmetic"

Really? At their very core these are arithmetic problems. Again, as stated before, arithmetic is not the only to employ when drafting fiscal policy but I think it perfectly valid to suggest that it should be step 1. And like I said before, if it doesn't pass step 1 there is no need to go on to step 2.
Friz,

A Finicial Derivative is based on market variables.

In reality markets and the economy are built on variables and the constants are mostly taxes and regulations. Arithmetic can only be used for a static analisis. The arithmetic approach "assumes" the variables are constant when the the constants (tax policy and regultaions) have been changed to forcast the result. However, tax policy and regulations can have a substaintial effect on the variables which are mostly assumed static in an arithmetic analysis.
Calculus is mathematics not arithmetic.
We don't need mitt's agenda. It's the same old failed trickle down that got us into this economic mess; amazing that so many Republicans just don't get it. And their position on climate change is equally unrealistic. Reality check!
Seems to have worked for Reagan and W. Bush when they lead us out of recessions.
"life220" is a perfect example of the sick liberal mind run amok with cliches and hate-Bush rhetoric. His rambling, almost incomprehensible posts indicate an irrational outlook fed by the left-wing media and their often-fabricated and selectively-edited presentations of conservatives (remember "that black cloud" speech with intentional muting of audio?).
I am pretty sure the Life220 is charading as a liberal. Hopefully no one is truely that stupid.
Why lie Obama? The only sure tax/penalty that will hurt middle class is the Obamacare mandate.
Doesn't Congress write the Tax policy?
@tsigili, you are ready to call people brainwashed, What are you besides Brainwashed? You are willing to vote against your own best interest for a man with a hidden Plan. You are willing to stand with a man that will not tell you his plan...you are willing to allow billionaires to run our country because you hate so deep...Wake Up and smell the coffee...Your candidate 1. will not release his taxes, 2. lies and will not subject his camp to fact check, 3. has not or will not tell you what his plan is, oh until he's elected. 4. One minutes he's for (parts of Obamacare) and the next he's not. 5. The other part of the ticket wouldn't care if our mother's were raped by the neighbor next door and if by chance she got pregnant she would still have to have the child..6. Do you really care about the country you live in? You know and every Republican knows...Mit Romney isn't the one you wanted in the first place...Do You Even Know What He's Running On???I sure in the heck don't have a clue...AListens-what do you have to say?
1. Don't care about other taxes as long is no one is breaking the law.
2. Fact checks show both parties are chroninc liers (media subjects fact Check)
3. Actually he has had a 52 point plan and has laid down some guidelines. Ultimately Congress must write the laws.
4. Actually he hac never been for Obamacare, he only acknowledged that the entire plan is not all bad.
5. The Supreme would have to change the abortion policy
6. Most people care they just have differant visions
@URNSO2 how would you know if he's breaking the law or not if you can't see his taxes? Do your own Fact check and don't rely on the media-(any channel or newspaper) As Far as Obamacare, He was the originator of Obamacare-where have you been? Yes I simply agree to disagree about most people caring and have different visions! My vision is to remember the past and not allowing this time to take me back to the era that my grandmother and her mother fought for...We need to be focusing on raising our school levels Nationally! Science and Math! Charting New Courses and not this same old hate garbage...URNSO2-I wish you well and your family...because if Romney gets in you are going to need it...I can tell from your writing...Your money is long enough to fit under his umbrella...
Alistener,

I don't work for the IRS so it is not my responsabilty. For some reason I hope that the IRS reviews Mitt's taxes very close. They seem to know when I am off by a couple of cents.
More fabrications, aka Lies, from the lying liars of campaign Obama I see. Don't have any facts? Just make some stuff up and throw-in some threatening sounds to frighten people with your fabricated "facts". Oh, and press on with your class-warfare, war on women and race-baiting (dog whistle) propaganda. That's the Hope and Change we had been waiting for!
This is the best ad that I have seen. Everything in this ad is true. Is there anyone who can contradict this ad?
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