by EmpireGeorge______-- September 7, 2012 2:06 PM EDT ......but how did West Nile get such an epidemic, that's the mystery.
I don't know what he definition of epidemic is but I wouldn't call this an epidemic at this point. We have had West Nile (including deaths) all along the Gulf Coast and yes we had an extremely mild if not warm winter and lots of rain this summer.
I'm not an epidemiologist (sp?) but I would guess that mosquito eggs layed last year probly contained the virus, thus when the larger than normal population hatched this year that increased the number ofcontacts between humans and mosquitos and thus the larger than normal infection rate. It has been reported here that the majority of people infected never show any symptoms. Usually it is those over 50 with compromised immune systems that tend to get ill and sometimes die.
by AOCGUY September 7, 2012 2:28 PM EDT Communities don't have morals, they might have standards but only individuals have morals.
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Exactly!
No, Governor Romney, corporations are not people. People have hearts. They have kids. They get jobs. They get sick. They thrive. They dance. They live. They love. And they die. And that matters. That matters. That matters because we don't run this country for corporations, we run it for people. - Elizabeth Warren : )
Actually, although I don't agree that coprorationsare people, I also dont agree that employees have a say in how owners want to represent their company. If my boss, who happens to own the company, wants my input on how the company should be represented then he is free to ask but he is under no obligation to do so and I shouldn't expect to have a say..
Mortarman_1SG29 September 7, 2012 2:24 PM EDT Working on my folks in Richmond. Virginia is getting ready to push back hard against the Federal government and its incessant need to not obey the laws the States put in place for it.
So, the box it has ooozed out of has been opened, shovels are ready...and people are ready to put that ooze back inside its box where it belongs.
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It was a group from Richmond Virginia that put up the billboard I'm talking about.............dang! I'm good! LOL! Mortar I can spot you from across the country! LOL!
I just think its sad (not refering to you in particular)...for so many people to go around spouting "That's Un-American" and then when the candidate they don't like is elected...they wanna say things like lets "take up Arms"! : / If that's not the height of Un-American, I don't know what is!
by Dancing-in-the-Streets September 7, 2012 2:02 PM EDT I didn't see it with my own eyes, but I did see news reports about it.
I would think it would be pretty close to treason!
Well I have tried to find any reference to such a billboard and have failed. You are not talking about the billboard in texas that speaks of the SEALs removing a threat to America are you?
I think it is more likly that whatever the sign said was most likely over the top but not illegal (what sign company would place themselves at risk for accepting such a sign) but like a lot of things as the story goes around it is embellished.
We have an electronic billboard on the highway near my house that regularly posts some very critical and borderline (but on this side of the border) illegal comments about Obama. I personally find it repulsive but so far they haven't gone over the line to what I would consider illegal.
And as much as I dislike the content, I'm happy to say that it isn't against the law, yet, to say offensive things.
by Mortarman_1SG29 September 7, 2012 2:16 PM EDT Ms. Zann, I said they were community morals. Which means, we may personally believe it is okay to pay a woman for sex...but if our community finds that immoral, then the community morals dictate that the action I want to do is immoral and make it illegal thru anti-prostitution laws.
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No, the community dictates that it is Illegal.
The community cannot tell YOU that it is Immoral - that's YOUR decision!
Well sidestepping your arguement, since you can't seem to figure which came first, the chicken or the egg......
The "community" of America is a very LARGE community don't you think? With a Great many people! And we are not all going to agree on what we find acceptable. Smoking pot - to some is perfectly fine. To the gov. illegal. Gay marrigage to some - fine. To parts of the gov. illegal. My point is things change! And..........hmmm....a Southern Baptist doesn't have the right to walk up to a dancing teenager and tell him he is "Immoral". All going back to.........YOU can't decide for ME, what is immoral! LOL
Individuals in a community have morals. Should a majority of people in that community share the same moral alues on an issue (say prostitution) then they can adobt a community statndard and even a law prohibiting it but they cannot dictate morality - they can however dictate standards and laws.
by AOCGUY September 7, 2012 1:52 PM EDT BS, my morality is just that, mine. I obey the laws of the land but they do not constitute what my morality is or is not.
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That was my point! (minus emotion) Thank you Guy! : )
by Mortarman_1SG29 September 7, 2012 1:46 PM EDT We have had several discussions that we disagreed on. Here are some samples...maybe you can pick out one or two and both of us can weigh in on them:
1. Voting for Romney (Founders)...not voting for either and wanting Obama to win (Mortar)
2. Loves President Lincoln and thinks he did what he had to do (Founders)...hates Lincoln and thinks he should have been impeached and jailed (Mortar).
3. Jefferson's Louisiana Purchase: Both agree that is was clearly illegal, but he had to do it (Founders) or was guilty of breaking his oath (Mortar).
We have had a bunch of things we disagree with. So, pick one and if he will agree, we will show all of you that there are many differences.
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Hey you two should pick whichever one you're most passionate about! But I kinda like #1 LOL!
by EmpireGeorge______-- September 7, 2012 1:38 PM EDT Dancing-in-the-Streets, I hear Texas is having quite the problem with West Nile Virus, I think like 45 people died so far from the virus.....(of course, more than those killed in recent gun shootings, but we don't strive to ban insects).
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LOL! Can we JUST ban the mosquitoes? Yeah, they're scaring us down here with all that! If its another immunization they want to sell, I wish they'd just get to the point and sell it!
More likely the result of a very light winter, so no mosquitoes died, giving us a bumper crop this year!
They talk about a possible immunization, but how it will take years to get to us! I dunno....I think whoever makes OFF is making a lot of money around here though!
......but how did West Nile get such an epidemic, that's the mystery.
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Yes, and quite a few conspiracy theories going on about it! Did it just come from the birds? Is it actually caused by polution? Is it just another drug company, creating a scare so they can sell more drugs?
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......but how did West Nile get such an epidemic, that's the mystery.
I don't know what he definition of epidemic is but I wouldn't call this an epidemic at this point. We have had West Nile (including deaths) all along the Gulf Coast and yes we had an extremely mild if not warm winter and lots of rain this summer.
I'm not an epidemiologist (sp?) but I would guess that mosquito eggs layed last year probly contained the virus, thus when the larger than normal population hatched this year that increased the number ofcontacts between humans and mosquitos and thus the larger than normal infection rate. It has been reported here that the majority of people infected never show any symptoms. Usually it is those over 50 with compromised immune systems that tend to get ill and sometimes die.
Communities don't have morals, they might have standards but only individuals have morals.
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Exactly!
Working on my folks in Richmond. Virginia is getting ready to push back hard against the Federal government and its incessant need to not obey the laws the States put in place for it.
So, the box it has ooozed out of has been opened, shovels are ready...and people are ready to put that ooze back inside its box where it belongs.
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It was a group from Richmond Virginia that put up the billboard I'm talking about.............dang! I'm good! LOL! Mortar I can spot you from across the country! LOL!
Glad to hear you don't agree with it then Mortar!
I didn't see it with my own eyes, but I did see news reports about it.
I would think it would be pretty close to treason!
Well I have tried to find any reference to such a billboard and have failed. You are not talking about the billboard in texas that speaks of the SEALs removing a threat to America are you?
We have an electronic billboard on the highway near my house that regularly posts some very critical and borderline (but on this side of the border) illegal comments about Obama. I personally find it repulsive but so far they haven't gone over the line to what I would consider illegal.
And as much as I dislike the content, I'm happy to say that it isn't against the law, yet, to say offensive things.
You may not find it illegal to incite your fellow citizens towards a Civil War - but I Certainly find it Immoral!
Ms. Zann, I said they were community morals. Which means, we may personally believe it is okay to pay a woman for sex...but if our community finds that immoral, then the community morals dictate that the action I want to do is immoral and make it illegal thru anti-prostitution laws.
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No, the community dictates that it is Illegal.
The community cannot tell YOU that it is Immoral - that's YOUR decision!
The "community" of America is a very LARGE community don't you think? With a Great many people! And we are not all going to agree on what we find acceptable. Smoking pot - to some is perfectly fine. To the gov. illegal. Gay marrigage to some - fine. To parts of the gov. illegal. My point is things change! And..........hmmm....a Southern Baptist doesn't have the right to walk up to a dancing teenager and tell him he is "Immoral". All going back to.........YOU can't decide for ME, what is immoral! LOL
BS, my morality is just that, mine. I obey the laws of the land but they do not constitute what my morality is or is not.
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That was my point! (minus emotion) Thank you Guy! : )
The morals we each base our decisions on are Personal.
We have had several discussions that we disagreed on. Here are some samples...maybe you can pick out one or two and both of us can weigh in on them:
1. Voting for Romney (Founders)...not voting for either and wanting Obama to win (Mortar)
2. Loves President Lincoln and thinks he did what he had to do (Founders)...hates Lincoln and thinks he should have been impeached and jailed (Mortar).
3. Jefferson's Louisiana Purchase: Both agree that is was clearly illegal, but he had to do it (Founders) or was guilty of breaking his oath (Mortar).
We have had a bunch of things we disagree with. So, pick one and if he will agree, we will show all of you that there are many differences.
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Hey you two should pick whichever one you're most passionate about! But I kinda like #1 LOL!
I would think it would be pretty close to treason!
Dancing-in-the-Streets, I hear Texas is having quite the problem with West Nile Virus, I think like 45 people died so far from the virus.....(of course, more than those killed in recent gun shootings, but we don't strive to ban insects).
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LOL! Can we JUST ban the mosquitoes? Yeah, they're scaring us down here with all that! If its another immunization they want to sell, I wish they'd just get to the point and sell it!
They talk about a possible immunization, but how it will take years to get to us! I dunno....I think whoever makes OFF is making a lot of money around here though!
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Yes, and quite a few conspiracy theories going on about it! Did it just come from the birds? Is it actually caused by polution? Is it just another drug company, creating a scare so they can sell more drugs?