@violist - what's Marxist isn't making it available to everyone, it already WAS available to everyone who would get off their couch and go to work instead of watching Oprah all day. What's Marxist is making the rest of us pay for premium health care for them, and the illegals, expanding their life expectancy from 55 to 85, and adding another 30 years of Section 8 housing, food stamps, welfare, and oh yeah, premium health care for each of them AND their 6 offspring who won't amount to anything. Do the math, then hand you wallet over to the Gov't Cheese Party - they won't stop until they have it for their voting base.
Congressional Research Service report, October, 2011. According to the report, which was based on 2006 data, about a quarter of millionaires (about 94,500) paid less than 26.5 percent of their income in federal taxes, while about 10 percent of moderate-income taxpayers (about 10.4 million taxpayers) paid more than 26.5 percent in taxes. Moderate-income taxpayers were defined as those with an adjusted gross income less than $100,000. Even millionaires who are out of work don't have to spend down their savings as fast as they might. They can collect unemployment on the shoulders of taxpayers. The IRS reports that 2,362 millionaires collected $20,799,000 in jobless benefits in 2009.
The ACA is fully paid for (CBO), which can't be said for huge spending by any Republican president in memory. Tax cuts for the wealthy, Iraq, Afghanistan, Medicare D, all reckless Republican spending. Now we finally have a chance to join other first world nations and the right is in meltdown mode. Perhaps these so called "fiscal conservatives" think it's dandy to spend over 17% of GDP to have healthcare outcomes as good as Slovenia? I think it's time for the right to end the charade that they are in any way fiscally conservative. They are not, and haven't been since at least Reagan's era.
"These people who will be left uninsured can thank Obama, Pelosi and Roberts. "
Wow, no wonder the Wingnut right is so screwed up, not one of those individuals you named is an elected Republican who is actually now on record ready to deny medical coverage to the poor and elderly who can't afford the Republican status quo of "I've got mine, screw you".
"Floridians are interested in jobs and economic growth, a quality education for their children, and keeping the cost of living low," Scott said in a statement." Excuse me, but I thought healthcare was a part of the cost of living. After all, if I get sick I have to pay for it, right? Or should I just schlep it off on those who are paying, because after all the law says the hospital has to give me at least the minimum amount of care to keep me alive. Who does he think pays for all those indigent patients his state's hospitals take care of every day??
Yep, the nations largest employer, Wal-Mart, has the highest percentage of the working poor that earn so little that they pay no taxes and qualify for food stamps, Medicaid and housing assistance. What should they do to keep the rich from suffering a 2% tax increase that would reduce our deficits, save Social Security, Medicare, and our local governments???????
1. Got Osama bin laden...check. 2. unemployment rate 8.5%...check. 3. 1.6 million jobs created with no GOP help...check. 4. 22 months of job and economic growth with no help...check. 5. Ended war in Iraq...check. 6. DADT repeal...check 7.not one tax hike in 3 years....check. 8...Still carries 80% of the black vote...check. 9.Same wife for 15 years with no extra marital affairs...check. 10. Save auto industry and 1.5 million jobs.. check 11.Assisted in ousting Khaddafi...check. 12.Only active President to receive Nobel Peace prize while in office. 13. Mortgage modification to prevent home owners from losing their home. 14. STILL fighting for middle class families. 15.reform Affordable healthcare.... check Despite what the GOP would have you believe the President has been doing these things and more by himself. 16. New debit card reforms that protect consumers from banks.
But the folks still want to believe the lies and propaganda from the moneyed right! Why do folks want to lose 200+ years of struggle for equality in this country, only to vote it all away by believing the liars of the Republican right!
1. navy seals *got* osama 2. 8.5% you got that right! 3. 1.6 million jobs, anemic growth, most of the jobs are gub'ment related 4. 22 months of stagnation 5. ended war in iraq, on paper. we are still there... both military and *contractors* which are just hired military 6. DADT repeal - gay speed ahead, yaaaaaa! 7. Obama care biggest tax hike in history 8. 80% of black vote, there's NOTHING he could do to lose that 9. same wife, this is an accomplishment or detriment?!? 10. save auto industry... ask a Ford stock holder if that was a good idea. obama doesn't believe in the free market, greaaaaat. 11. khaddafi, who cares, but sits idle while syria kills kids 12. peace prize, for what?!? community organizing?!? hahahaaa 13. mortgage mod, for how many people and what cost to the tax payers?!? what a joke. you are REACHING for points. 14. STILL pandering for votes by promising cure-all's for everything. 15. biggest tax increase in history, gub'ment can now force you to buy private enterprise products or tax you. 16. increase bank fees to offset cc reforms. still doesn't understand how the private sector works.
You forgot
17. Pander to women 18. Pander to minorities 19. go to 17.
1. Really? Obama went over there and got Osama Bin Laden? He is awesome. Strike.
2. Wasn't his promise to have it below 8% by now? Strike.
3. So, the tax cuts didn't help with that? Oh, right, Bush never did anything good at all; only The Savior did. Strike.
4. Over $1 trillion in slimulus to create 1.6 million jobs (do the math to figure out how much each job cost us genius). Strike.
5. The war in Iraq was ended as scheduled by Bush. Strike.
6. This is one with which I agree. Check.
7. Once again, genius, the Supreme Court just called Obamacare a tax. Strike.
8. Name a black person who hates being a slave, and I'll show you a Libertarian. The rest tend to vote for Democrats, who rely on them as voting slaves by ensuring they never get ahead, or they vote for Republicans, who make them work for their money without any assistance at all. Check for stupidity of blacks. 9. Are you referring to Clinton? Oops. Check that he isn't Clinton.
10. The auto industry has been a castrophic failure. They should have entered into re-organization from day one. Now, we (maybe not you), the tax payers, will have to eat billions in lost bail-out funds. Big strike.
11. Who is replacing Khaddafi? Maybe a check. Maybe a strike. Only time will tell.
12. Got the Nobel Peace Prize, then immediately increased military operations in Afghanistan. Are you that dense? Strike to the morons who voted for him to receive that worthless medal.
13. Again, tax payers paying for way too many deadbeats. News flash: interest-only mortgages were pushed by Democrats as a way to get minorities houses for votes. It failed! Strike.
14. Right. That's exactly what politicians do: they fight for the middle class. That's why middle-class people like big bankers, CEO's, an the Hollywood Elite donate to him. Strike.
15. Again, extra taxation is nothing to applaud in my view. Besides, we have no idea what the effects of his legislation will have. I lean towards strike right now, since premiums have continued to skyrocket since this legislation passed, but I'll reserve judgment for later.
16. Are you serious? Have you even read this worthless "Act?" It will simply shift costs to other forms of financing and will protect you little. Huge strike.
Stop sipping the Kool-Aid! Politicians on both sides care nothing for you! They only care about what is best for their legacies and their wallets.
1. Got Osama bin laden...Thanks to the SEALS, CIA and NSA, Even Carter would have greenlighted that operation 2. unemployment rate 8.5%...Only 8.5% hooray for us unless you are one of the 8.5% or one of the millions who have opted to stop looking for jobs that don't exist. 3. 1.6 million jobs created with no GOP help...check. 4. 22 months of job and economic growth with no help...check. 5. Ended war in Iraq...Bush signed the mandate for all troops to be out of Iraq by 12/31/2011. The last troops withdrew on the 18th of that month. 6. DADT repeal...check 7.not one tax hike in 3 years...yet, Obamacare imposes a penalty—or tax increase—on Americans who do not purchase health insurance. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that most of those paying these taxes are middle-class individuals and families making less than 500 percent of the federal poverty level: $59,000 for an individual and $120,000 for a family of four. Three million lower-income and middle-class Americans will pay an estimated $2 billion in these "mandate taxes." 8...Still carries 80% of the black vote...Hooray for Racism! 9.Same wife for 15 years with no extra marital affairs...Which hasn't happened with a Democratic President in a while. 10. Save auto industry and 1.5 million jobs.. Bush signed the initial $17B bailout 11.Assisted in ousting Khaddafi...Obama approved the bare minimum required to save face 12.Only active President to receive Nobel Peace prize while in office... You are forgetting Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson who both received the prize while in office and actually did something to deserve it. 13. Mortgage modification to prevent home owners from losing their home. 14. STILL fighting for middle class families... huh? 15.reform Affordable healthcare.... check Despite what the GOP would have you believe the President has been doing these things and more by himself. Yes he has allowed big government to intrude even further into the lives of Americans, yeah us! 16. New debit card reforms that protect consumers from banks. I'll give you that one.
Only a soulless individual would be so cruel and heartless as to deprive anyone of health care. However, the GOP is more concerned about political power than the health and welfare of the average American. The GOP only serves the 1%. And yet the GOP calls itself the party of family values and Christian values.... heifer dust....
News to BO Care lovers... shhhh, it's a secret though... it costs more to implement it and no one really gets "free" health insurance. Not when our taxes have to be increased to pay for the 16,000 IRS agents needed just to enforce the law.
There are only 2 countries on earth with "free" health care. Qatar pays for theirs with their oil revenues. Israel pays for theirs with U.S. taxpayer subsidies.
charleskaye---You don't have or even know the facts, you're just a mouth organ, mouthing crap you've heard from the right winged media, which sells nothing but vile and lies!
The "16,000 IRS agents" is simply completely false - you are repeating Republican propaganda verbatim. Moreover, what increases in the IRS's budget there will be are completely paid for by the bill, so your "taxes have to be increased" is completely incorrect. No wonder "it's a secret".
According to Stephen Moore of the Wall Street Journal, 75% of the financial burden of Obamacare's new taxes will fall onto Americans making less than $120,000 a year.
For the states that turn their backs on their own people, those affected will probably move to a state that actually cares for their own citizens.
Roberts made a tough choice, but it was the right choice. He remembered the lessons learned in Sunday school. The GOP's "Repeal Obamacare" failed the time tested WWJD (What would Jesus Do?) test. Many of their other policies do as well.
The GOP has been hi-jacked by what amounts to the anti-Christ. Until it purges its party of all who go against God's teachings (Love thy neighbor being first and foremost) then it will continue to suffer.
A nation cannot be strong unless it's people are strong.
Who do these governors think they are, saying to their citizens "We are not going to allow you to receive the Medicaid benefits the federal government is giving to you because we don't agree with the federal healthcare plan?" Who do they think they are? Telling the poor that they are the sacrificial sheep that will keep the cost of living low for the rest of the more "deserving" Florida citizens? Republicans have gone absolutely mad and there is insufficient outrage at the behavior of the Scotts, Jindals, Cantors, Ryans, and all of the other inhumane punks that have come to dominate the party.
They live by duping the ignorant and the stupid....and there are more of the ignorant and stupid in America than one can count, but for sure, a proven count is the 50million or so that keep voting for Republicans over and over who never understand that they are voting against themselves!
Here's another inhumane punk: Yesterday I watched Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) tell a reporter that business owners should be allowed to deny coverage to employees with cancer. He said more or less that the constitution only says we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.......and treating cancer means taking someone else's money to do so. Good Lord, these shameful jerks have no business anywhere near power.
But they keep getting voted into office!! WHY IS THAT!!? The USofA must be made up of at least 50 million idiots who think that the Republican party is taking care of them!!! What a ruse!!
This is what happens when republicans are in charge. They always claim they are going to lower your taxes, but they do it by cutting out the programs that help the people who need it most and they they strut around like they are victorious warriors. They couldn't care less about anyone but the 1%. Make no mistake people, the republicans are out for themselves and nobody else. They like to say they are the "working man's friend". Right. NOT! Tax funded programs are in place because they are needed. We went from being a nation of producers to a nation of consumers because the republicans are only looking out for themselves. Anything to get that almighty tax break. Hey, let's send our jobs overseas so we can hold the money off-shore and avoid taxes. Well, republican citizens, how's that working out for ya? Are ya ready to just kick your parents to the curb and tell them "Sorry, mom and dad. I'm just not paying taxes anymore so that you can lie around in that hospital bed with cancer and mooch off of my social security taxes." ???
We're supposed to care for our elderly and disabled and homeless and jobless. There are NOT as many abusers in the system as the republicans love to claim there are.
I'm disabled with heart problems amongst others and you know what happens if medicaid and other programs are cut? I die. And then my family does as well. And the republicans claim they are christian. Right.
We all die someday, the difference is that some of us plan better. Feeling sorry for yourself and blaming others will get you nowhere but dead faster. And it is foolish to think that not paying taxes is going to harm these peoples families, all the money they are saving will pay for higher quality care than a social program. Anytime someone generalizes the problem to be about political parties there is a republicrat or democan shepard somewhere laughing and profiting.
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According to the report, which was based on 2006 data, about a quarter of millionaires (about 94,500) paid less than 26.5 percent of their income in federal taxes, while about 10 percent of moderate-income taxpayers (about 10.4 million taxpayers) paid more than 26.5 percent in taxes. Moderate-income taxpayers were defined as those with an adjusted gross income less than $100,000.
Even millionaires who are out of work don't have to spend down their savings as fast as they might. They can collect unemployment on the shoulders of taxpayers. The IRS reports that 2,362 millionaires collected $20,799,000 in jobless benefits in 2009.
Wow, no wonder the Wingnut right is so screwed up, not one of those individuals you named is an elected Republican who is actually now on record ready to deny medical coverage to the poor and elderly who can't afford the Republican status quo of "I've got mine, screw you".
Congratulations with your Lord of The Flies life!
What should they do to keep the rich from suffering a 2% tax increase that would reduce our deficits, save Social Security, Medicare, and our local governments???????
2% tax increase raises 10 billion a year.
We overspend currently by more than that in two days.
Please tell us ALL how 2% tax solves deficits, SS, Medicare, and local gub'ments.
Oh wait... it just a red herring being fed to you through the cool-aid straw.
HAHAHAHAHA!
2. unemployment rate 8.5%...check.
3. 1.6 million jobs created with no GOP help...check.
4. 22 months of job and economic growth with no help...check.
5. Ended war in Iraq...check.
6. DADT repeal...check
7.not one tax hike in 3 years....check.
8...Still carries 80% of the black vote...check.
9.Same wife for 15 years with no extra marital affairs...check.
10. Save auto industry and 1.5 million jobs.. check
11.Assisted in ousting Khaddafi...check.
12.Only active President to receive Nobel Peace prize while in office.
13. Mortgage modification to prevent home owners from losing their home.
14. STILL fighting for middle class families.
15.reform Affordable healthcare.... check Despite what the GOP would have you believe the President has been doing these things and more by himself.
16. New debit card reforms that protect consumers from banks.
2. 8.5% you got that right!
3. 1.6 million jobs, anemic growth, most of the jobs are gub'ment related
4. 22 months of stagnation
5. ended war in iraq, on paper. we are still there... both military and *contractors* which are just hired military
6. DADT repeal - gay speed ahead, yaaaaaa!
7. Obama care biggest tax hike in history
8. 80% of black vote, there's NOTHING he could do to lose that
9. same wife, this is an accomplishment or detriment?!?
10. save auto industry... ask a Ford stock holder if that was a good idea. obama doesn't believe in the free market, greaaaaat.
11. khaddafi, who cares, but sits idle while syria kills kids
12. peace prize, for what?!? community organizing?!? hahahaaa
13. mortgage mod, for how many people and what cost to the tax payers?!? what a joke. you are REACHING for points.
14. STILL pandering for votes by promising cure-all's for everything.
15. biggest tax increase in history, gub'ment can now force you to buy private enterprise products or tax you.
16. increase bank fees to offset cc reforms. still doesn't understand how the private sector works.
You forgot
17. Pander to women
18. Pander to minorities
19. go to 17.
2. Wasn't his promise to have it below 8% by now? Strike.
3. So, the tax cuts didn't help with that? Oh, right, Bush never did anything good at all; only The Savior did. Strike.
4. Over $1 trillion in slimulus to create 1.6 million jobs (do the math to figure out how much each job cost us genius). Strike.
5. The war in Iraq was ended as scheduled by Bush. Strike.
6. This is one with which I agree. Check.
7. Once again, genius, the Supreme Court just called Obamacare a tax. Strike.
8. Name a black person who hates being a slave, and I'll show you a Libertarian. The rest tend to vote for Democrats, who rely on them as voting slaves by ensuring they never get ahead, or they vote for Republicans, who make them work for their money without any assistance at all. Check for stupidity of blacks.
9. Are you referring to Clinton? Oops. Check that he isn't Clinton.
10. The auto industry has been a castrophic failure. They should have entered into re-organization from day one. Now, we (maybe not you), the tax payers, will have to eat billions in lost bail-out funds. Big strike.
11. Who is replacing Khaddafi? Maybe a check. Maybe a strike. Only time will tell.
12. Got the Nobel Peace Prize, then immediately increased military operations in Afghanistan. Are you that dense? Strike to the morons who voted for him to receive that worthless medal.
13. Again, tax payers paying for way too many deadbeats. News flash: interest-only mortgages were pushed by Democrats as a way to get minorities houses for votes. It failed! Strike.
14. Right. That's exactly what politicians do: they fight for the middle class. That's why middle-class people like big bankers, CEO's, an the Hollywood Elite donate to him. Strike.
15. Again, extra taxation is nothing to applaud in my view. Besides, we have no idea what the effects of his legislation will have. I lean towards strike right now, since premiums have continued to skyrocket since this legislation passed, but I'll reserve judgment for later.
16. Are you serious? Have you even read this worthless "Act?" It will simply shift costs to other forms of financing and will protect you little. Huge strike.
Stop sipping the Kool-Aid! Politicians on both sides care nothing for you! They only care about what is best for their legacies and their wallets.
2. unemployment rate 8.5%...Only 8.5% hooray for us unless you are one of the 8.5% or one of the millions who have opted to stop looking for jobs that don't exist.
3. 1.6 million jobs created with no GOP help...check.
4. 22 months of job and economic growth with no help...check.
5. Ended war in Iraq...Bush signed the mandate for all troops to be out of Iraq by 12/31/2011. The last troops withdrew on the 18th of that month.
6. DADT repeal...check
7.not one tax hike in 3 years...yet, Obamacare imposes a penalty—or tax increase—on Americans who do not purchase health insurance. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that most of those paying these taxes are middle-class individuals and families making less than 500 percent of the federal poverty level: $59,000 for an individual and $120,000 for a family of four. Three million lower-income and middle-class Americans will pay an estimated $2 billion in these "mandate taxes."
8...Still carries 80% of the black vote...Hooray for Racism!
9.Same wife for 15 years with no extra marital affairs...Which hasn't happened with a Democratic President in a while.
10. Save auto industry and 1.5 million jobs.. Bush signed the initial $17B bailout
11.Assisted in ousting Khaddafi...Obama approved the bare minimum required to save face
12.Only active President to receive Nobel Peace prize while in office... You are forgetting Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson who both received the prize while in office and actually did something to deserve it.
13. Mortgage modification to prevent home owners from losing their home.
14. STILL fighting for middle class families... huh?
15.reform Affordable healthcare.... check Despite what the GOP would have you believe the President has been doing these things and more by himself. Yes he has allowed big government to intrude even further into the lives of Americans, yeah us!
16. New debit card reforms that protect consumers from banks. I'll give you that one.
Wish there was but there isn't.
P.S. There's no uni-corns either, and that Santa Claus guy... well.
Qatar pays for theirs with their oil revenues.
Israel pays for theirs with U.S. taxpayer subsidies.
On ne peut pas faire des omelettes sans casser les oeufs
Good to see republican governors are keeping up with their mentors
Roberts made a tough choice, but it was the right choice. He remembered the lessons learned in Sunday school. The GOP's "Repeal Obamacare" failed the time tested WWJD (What would Jesus Do?) test. Many of their other policies do as well.
The GOP has been hi-jacked by what amounts to the anti-Christ. Until it purges its party of all who go against God's teachings (Love thy neighbor being first and foremost) then it will continue to suffer.
A nation cannot be strong unless it's people are strong.
Sadly, there's no money fairy. This translates into, the world needs ditch diggers, and poor people.
Sad fact that liberals just don't understand.
We're supposed to care for our elderly and disabled and homeless and jobless. There are NOT as many abusers in the system as the republicans love to claim there are.
I'm disabled with heart problems amongst others and you know what happens if medicaid and other programs are cut? I die. And then my family does as well. And the republicans claim they are christian. Right.
Anytime someone generalizes the problem to be about political parties there is a republicrat or democan shepard somewhere laughing and profiting.