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notyrants says:
What has been going down in the United States and around the world is an insidious non-democratic private corporate government take down of sovereign democratic nations. Global capitalists need be exposed in how they utilize FAR more than "Julia" the constructs of central government to leverage their wealth and affluence.

Currently, oil corporations and other non-democratic private corporate governments receive individually millions of dollars in public government subsidy. This has been an ongoing transfer of wealth from working families to the wealthiest.

The system that has been lobbied for with their deep pockets. The result has been a system whose wealth is used as a domestic and global terrorist weapon of mass destruction to representative democracy.

The global capitalists whose wealth is acquired through global non-democratic corporate governments has the protection of their wealth and affluence socialized to the masses in the form of copyright laws and military action that come from the public government. In time even more will be privatized in part by the lack of vision and ignorance of the tea party minded people.

Many of those who have gained the greater part of the wealth that has been derived from the labor and creativity of others are much like bacteria on a petri dish. They or their children or grandchildren will suffer from their own greed and selfishness having indifference or finding it beneath themselves to water and fertilize the garden that they pick more and the best from.
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hypnotoad72 replies:
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Assuming people choose to pay attention.

Many are not.

And are they worth supporting?
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CLEmom says:
"Julia turns into Republican fodder"...

This disturbing glimpse into Obama's vision for America should be fodder for every American, not just Republicans.

I've watched it twice and cannot even believe what I'm seeing...where are Julia's parents? Assume she doesn't go to church either...that's definitely not an option for the secular left.

She's a mindless cog in Obama's machine. All that's missing is her little brown jacket.

And yes, the tweets are hilarious...
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clay229 says:
Julia, like much else about the Obama camp is another work of fiction...any more should not need said.
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hypnotoad72 replies:
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So what will your side do differently, with proof and have it notarized because you will want to hold your own as accountable as you claim to hold Obama, yes?
iamproteus replies:
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hynotoad72, clay229 and the rest of the republibots are not likely to do that which you suggest. They are only capable of blind, unfounded criticism based on nothing more than partisan bias.
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KPeters_from_UK says:
What the Obama campaign needs to do is have Julia live in Arizona, use Planned Parenthood for her health services, experience the lack of Planned Parenthood after government cut funding, then Julia becomes a victim of a date rape now she can't have an abortion finally have Julia struggling at a low pay job while supporting her child who is attending a school with huge class sizes and poorly paid stressed out teachers.
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hypnotoad72 replies:
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The kid will just be cheap labor, especially once Arizona tries to rescind the same child labor laws Maine has been trying to do:

http://bangordailynews.com/2011/03/29/politics/bill-to-loosen-child-labor-restrictions-heads-to-maine-senate/

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/03/31/154895/gop-loves-child-labor/

Still, Obama recently did something about child labor for farms as well... ironic given how little small farms still exist, as most ag corps have squeezed them out. I've relatives in farming, and I'm more inclined to believe them than I would any politician.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57423232/child-labor-groups-upset-over-federal-inaction-on-dangerous-farm-jobs/

Then again, ag corps do need cheap labor so their profit margins can continue to rise as fewer and fewer buy... real profits come from people with wages buying. Not via more and more slave wage labor. But people don't mind being in a nation ran by parasites, and people don't mind redistribution of wealth when it goes from their labor to the person demanding more work out of them I suppose...
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nygurl1 says:
The republijerks are doing their thing once again!
Take something simple and turn it into a horror show which only they can see!
I had retail jobs for a long time but things changed, people got nasty and I was looking for something better.
My then husband had lost his job and found out he could go to school to learn a new trade and still collect unemployment. As soon as he got a new job, I went to my supervisor and asked him to fire me. He really didn't want to lose me but after I explained it he agreed.
I learned how to write computer programs and got hired right after I finished. I did it for 15 years.
But by then everyone wanted degrees! Even with 15 yrs experience!

So after a bad patch of no job a friend got me into his company, learned drafting, and I remained there til I retired!

I got into the programing school with a loan from a bank. I paid it off as fast as I could. Doubling payments to get rid of the debt.

The reps idea that people are lazy SOBs who don't want to work is such a big lie I have no idea how they thought they could get away with it! I look around at the people I know and I see fighters, not teatsuckers!
If nothing else, it proves they are totally in the dark about how the regular people, the 99%, really, truly get by!

It also shows that they don't give a dam!

They think women are useless. I think it's time for the women of the country tell them what kind of idiots they are!
And understand that what I really want to say would get me thrown off this site!
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Yankee_Doodle replies:
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You asked your boss to fire you?

That says a mouthful...
iamproteus replies:
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Yankee and theshark, obviously you, as do many (if not most) repubs, have let your partisan bias interfere with your understanding of the point of her story!
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involved_indi says:
I don't understand why the Obama campaign thinks that a strategy telling women that they are powerless and helpless without the government "looking out" for them is helping. The women I know will be offended by this. Someone in the Obama campaign is totally out-of-touch.
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involved_indi says:
Hope and change. We can do it. Yes we can. Julia... Where is the proof. Where are we better off in the last 4 years? Obama has only slogans designed to divide the country and appeal to the lazy, ignorant & clueless in the U.S. written by some public relations firm. The country can't survive 4 more years of President Obama and liberal socialist policies.
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rmonroe401 replies:
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Well I guess Right Wingers do not understand since they had MOMMY AND DADDY there to pay their college tuition. Unfortunately we all do not have rich mommy's and daddy's. Especially after 8 years of Bush.
Yankee_Doodle replies:
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What is even more unfortunate is that new college graduates are having a hard time finding work under this administration.

The free market is the cure to what ails this country, not more government intervention.
hypnotoad72 replies:
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Were we better off in 2008 than we were in 2000?

You see, the line goes both ways. And once you realize that, unless you really think Reagan and Bush helped your economy... here's a reminder, and the graphs within can show you don't need to be literate to understand:

http://www.realitybase.org/journal/2009/3/10/the-american-dream-died-in-february-1973.html
Copy that URL into your address bar and kindly read it.

Also,

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/vp/40575006#40575006

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/10/11/how-mitt-romneys-health-care-experts-helped-design-obamacare/

Even when there's an opportunity, Obama seemed to ignore it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBSaXeshBF4

HOW IS OBAMA SOCIALIST WHEN ALL HE'S DONE IS USE AND CONTINUE GOP POLICIES?
hypnotoad72 replies:
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yankee -

The free market resolves nothing, because jobs go overseas because of it, yet costs for the damn education to make us "competitive" won't. That's because the only thing competitive is "wages".

Plus, free market supporting companies get handouts all the time:

http://www.progress.org/cwfedex.htm

Now, do you want to see a list of over 50 articles spelling out how wrong "free market" supporters are and how the middle class is being gutted, or have you seen those lists before but chose to ignore them?
hypnotoad72 replies:
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yankee -

Do people know ALL the reasons for budget shortfalls, and lack of prosperity, and need for welfare, include
(a) jobs going offshore or being automated (meaning fewer people with jobs to tax, and it hurts our trade deficit as well since we're not making or servicing anything)
(b) SMBs failing due to large competition being allowed to destroy them with predatory tactics
(c) all the corporate subsidy (corporate welfare)
(d) corporate subsidy going to corporations THAT offshore

The class war, incidentally, started when the management demanded workers take pay cuts, train their own cheap H1B replacements, lost jobs due to illegals (who are also used to drive down wages...)

http://www.epi.org/publication/ib330-productivity-vs-compensation/
http://www.realitybase.org/journal/2009/3/10/the-american-dream-died-in-february-1973.html
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/where-the-productivity-went/
http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/01/vicious-cycle-stagnant-wages
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/04/opinion/04krugman.html?_r=4
http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/opinion/01eggers.html
http://greatdivide.typepad.com/across_the_great_divide/2009/06/walmart-workers-on-welfare-lets-look-for-the-spin.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-09-13/census-household-income/50383882/1

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Media/Slideshow/2012/04/04/Minimum-Wage-and-What-It-Buys-You-1950s-to-Now.aspx?index=1
http://www.hollandsentinel.com/opinions/x13292164/COLUMN-American-workers-got-what-they-deserved
http://underthemountainbunker.com/2011/03/31/senator-bernie-sanders-guide-to-corporate-freeloaders/
http://www.truth-out.org/top-us-corporations-outsourced-more-24-million-american-jobs-over-last-decade/1303196400
http://www.ctj.org/html/corp0402.htm
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/19/news/companies/auto_crisis/index.htm
http://www.sociology.vt.edu/course/socprobs/corporatewelfare.html
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/05/02/undercover-boss-season-finale/
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/career/supervisor-wants-employee-to-quit-part-time-job/2902
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/case/hiring-illegal-immigrants.html
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6283
http://ecosalon.com/squawk-our-tax-dollars-help-mcdonalds-hawk-chicken-in-europe/
http://drich13.newsvine.com/_news/2011/03/20/6307764-study-governor-walkers-budget-will-cut-21843-jobs-could-actually-hurt-state-economy
http://www.progress.org/cwfedex.htm
?http://www.infoworld.com/d/adventures-in-it/why-us-it-jobs-arent-coming-back-465?source=fssr
http://www.infoworld.com/d/the-industry-standard/beware-the-plot-increase-the-h-1b-visa-program-269
http://hubpages.com/hub/HowH1BVisaFRAUDiskillingAmerica?
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9133529/U.S._H_1B_workers_outnumber_unemployed_techies
http://www.ourfuture.org/corporate-welfare
http://mydd.com/story/2007/2/7/184312/5388
http://acsa.net/press/savearticlegates.htm
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/03/ronald-reagan-where-free-unions-and-collective-bargaining-are-forbidden-freedom-is-lost/
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/28/news/economy/paycuts/index.htm
http://greatdivide.typepad.com/across_the_great_divide/2009/06/walmart-workers-on-welfare-lets-look-for-the-spin.html
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3045walmart_iowa.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-to-grassley-were-still-using-h-1bs-no-moral-imperative-to-hire-americans-2009-3
http://www.google.com/search?q=americans+train+replacements+H1B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJDhS4oUm0M
http://anti-union.blogspot.com/2008/11/greedy-american-union-auto-workers-and.html
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2011/03/25/unpaid-jobs-the-new-normal/
hypnotoad72 replies:
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yankee -

More, including links to people who use un-free means to prop up the "free market":

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Rick_Santorum.htm#Corporations
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/mitch_mcconnell.htm#Corporations
http://www.ontheissues.org/john_mccain.htm#Corporations
http://www.issues2000.org/senate/Judd_Gregg.htm#Corporations
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/jim_demint.htm#Corporations
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Orrin_Hatch.htm#Corporations
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Chuck_Grassley.htm#Corporations

"Voted NO on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore. (Mar 2005)"

Do you like YOUR tax money to subsidize the lazy and greedy?

Want more? Just ask. But speaking of lazy, ignorant, and clueless... here's another supporter of "free market" malarkey:

Let's look at this one's website, see what his section headers are, and then look at the details within:

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/

His "energy independence" page talks up drilling our vast reserves. That's fine. Why does he say NOTHING about how all the oil we currently drill is sold offshore?! If we have oil issues and want independence, drilling more won't resolve the problem if it's sold to everyone else. And he does not mention these little details, which are ironically simple, despite their complexity... But he can't have both "energy independence" and "free market" in this case. And he, in other areas, hypes up "free market" quite loudly.

http://itsmyocean.org/?p=561
(one site, of many, that says it loud and clear: Drilling more here will do no good for "independence" because a lot of what we already drill is sold on the world market. This simple reality check destroys his claim. Don't blame me. Get him to verify his comments and beliefs, and get them notarized.)

Especially considering,
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news/economy/gasoline_export/index.htm

We are plenty independent if we're selling tons of the stuff... so what will drilling more do, apart from profit a few at the expense of everyone else that much more quickly?

Many of the sections within his site don't tell the entire story, have oversights, omissions, and the occasional "bait and switch" that have raised the eyebrows of people who have actually read between the lines or at least read what's on his site.

Maybe his staff will update his website, organize it, and provide fair amounts of information to engender some trust. Right now, on a number of issues, it's way too easy to read between the lines - because the content, as you said, is written in very simple terms. Too simple, and on issues where it really doesn't take long to find other facets to the issue that would impede his claimed ideals. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He wants things both ways.

Trust must be earned, if we are to take politicians seriously. Once his web site is cleaned up and some coherence generated, I might re-read it. Until then, he's another smoother talking waste of time.

And, going back to his site today, I needn't have altered a single word in this response, which I had composed a few weeks ago.

And anyone can do a search on the phrase "right to work" and find out how quickly union power has eroded in the country, how "right to work" doesn't provide workers anything approaching rights (or middle class pay, or any pay thanks to "unpaid internships").


Be careful what you wish for - those providing the wishes may not be telling the entire truth.

I am a person who will vote for the candidate most likely to help the middle class. Ron Paul is an epic fail, thanks to what Ron Paul authorizes on Ron Paul's own web site.
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JJ_in_tulsa says:
you have to wonder, has anyone in this country ever got educated about anything? They don't understand the FORward????? Where did they go to school? Does no one get it?
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JJ_in_tulsa replies:
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fewdup12,, I paid for own education,, did you?? I paid for my education, i born poor, but I didn't need to grow up stupid.m A little cheaper education<<?If you want a cheep education go Phoenix they will get you one. I
democracy8 replies:
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JJ_in_tulsa: If you paid for your own tuition, you should demand a total refund, since whatever school you attended was obviously unable to teach you how to form a coherent sentence.
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fedup12 says:
Ok so poorer people would like to have a little cheaper college education.

I think we pay for that by making the people that use the most government services PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES. No more free military action to protect your overseas assets. No more free hiways for your fleet of trucks. No more free electrical grid for your corporate headquarters.

Ok if you will pay for these things I will pay more for my sons college.

Freakin hypocrits.
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kenderceo replies:
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Taxes pay for the highways. Roads ARE the governments job. However the only federal responsibility for roads lies in the interstate highway system. If it doesn't cross state lines it's not the feds job. The electrical grid was built and is run by companies. Taxes are paid on usage which covers expenses etc. For you to make it seem as if the fed created, control and then give away the power for companies to make money is either disingenuous, ignorant or stupid. Thank you for showing us your lack of ability in the useful to most everyone skill of thinking.
rmonroe401 replies:
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You must have had a rich daddy to pay for your college. Good for you!!!! oh wait, you are STILL UNHAPPY! Wow.
democracy8 replies:
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JJ_in_tulsa: Judging from your post, you are either rip-roaring drunk or functionally illiterate. In any case, at least college students can form a coherent sentence. Obviously, you can't.
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LogicRules3 says:
Trolling the websites...nothing wreaks more than desperation...oh yes, wait...Mittens will bring us 500k jobs a month and 4% unemployment.
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