Did you know 51 Republican Congressmen are on [Medi-Care] yet said it was ..
"Going Bankrupt & it's Government Run-Socialized Medicine"
A Total of 155 Congressmen are on Medi-Care from Both Parties, but Republicans Call it "Government Run-Socialized Medicine"
Which leads me to Believe their Deceiving their Voters and Truly don't believe Medi-Care is "Socialized Medicine" they just don't want, for some Strange Reason, for the Rest of the USA, to have Access to the same Quality Treatment. Arizona Town Hall Meeting, John McCain was asked...
"Why can't I have the same Insurance Coverage that You've Got"
Fox News aired this Exchange, McCain, said later on Hannity..
"America's Not Ready, For Quality Health Coverage"
What kind of Lame Duck Response is that ?
I said to My Wife, that's it, This man is Semi-Senile __________
George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and their 6 Year Majority Ruling, Big Spending Congress & Senate, did Nothing to Address Increasing Cost of Health Insurance, which is 16.8% of the GDP and will increase, without Health Care Reform.
Richard Nixon wanted Universal Health Care, but Those Damn tapes and Ted Kennedy Resisted it and Shot it Down. Teddy Kennedy Admitted it was his Error, Too Little Too Late. Not this Time.
President Clinton tried and it was Shot Down Immediately, the same Tactics were used this Past August, it Appeared to have Worked, but President Obama Stayed Steady, September the Tide Turned and the Momentum was Strong for a Public Option and Cost Cutting, Health Care Reform.
Dick Army Failed, The GOP Fear and Hate Mongering has Failed, Republican Talk Radio has Failed, the Republican Senate-Congress has Failed and most of All Big Insurance and their Ad Campaign Failed.
I guess they don't mind voting their own selves out of office. Millions of pink slips have been sent to them warning them about passing this bill,and others. 2010 just around the corner.
Only in your dreams. Polls show Americans want health reform. The conservitard party is just going to have to face the fact that America has rejected them and they will never be in power again.
I admire Ms. Lincoln's guts. Her decision to try to get some care for 450,000 people in her home state is admirable. She knows the GOP will use it against her, but she DID THE RIGHT THING. Isn't that what our electeds are supposed to do - care for their people??? She would get my vote if I lived there.
Blah...blah...blah...more of the usual republiCON FEARmongering I see.
It's refreshing for a change to see congresscritters voting for their constituents needs over the for-profit insurance/pharmaceutical industries, unlike the GOP that has been bought and paid-for by the fascist corporatocracy!
How sad that so much of the Congressional voting is based on what proportions of the voters back home are liberal or conservative, white or hispanic, old or young, etc. instead of the actual merits and tradeoffs of the legislation in question. ALL of us need our country to have a better health care system.
Americans pay about twice per person for our 47th-best health care system as do citizens of any other wealthy democracy. In some ways we get a little more, in other ways less than they do -- but if you think American health care is "the world's best" (it often isn't) imagine how much better their health care would be if they spent what we do.
We also need to weigh the indirect costs of doing everything the way private insurance companies, hospital paper shufflers, and million-dollar doctors want us to. American companies struggle harder again foreign competitors that bear less employee insurance burdens, our bankruptcies and home foreclosures are doubled because of uncovered medical costs, neglected care eventually costs our society far more than timely care, criminals often go unjailed just because a County can?t afford to cover their medical care, etc.
Instead we get baldface lies, fear and smear, twisted logic, and hysterical claims trying to defeat valid assessments of how we can improve our system. Much of it seems to be based just on rabid rejection of anything the current Administration might support, rather than any rational assessment of any benefits or tradeoffs for our nation.
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Instead we get baldface lies, fear and smear, twisted logic, and hysterical claims trying to defeat valid assessments of how we can improve our system. Much of it seems to be based just on rabid rejection of anything the current Administration might support, rather than any rational assessment of any benefits or tradeoffs for our nation. ========================================
Yep...it's truly sad that the minority republiCON party will just continue to try to defeat anything for the general welfare of the majority of the American people, in order to attempt to cause President Obama to fail. Their vicious attacks get worse by the day, despite the fact that America surely needs health care reform.
American citizens are the most impotent citizens then any other country ...What ever the government shoves in their faces with the idea of take it or leave it ...And the doofus america citizens happily take it in the rear ends .... Awake up you lazyasss drunken lard eating people fight for universal healthcare...Lynch your congress men drag them out of their holes ...That would be your real change that Obama falsely promised...
America a third world country of criminals and crooks can't even provide universal health care to its people ...unbelievable hypocrits,loud mouth self righteous, its double talking leaders...
The 40 Republican Senators representing only a third of the nation need to peel away only a single conservative Democratic or independent representing a low population state like Montana, Nebraska or Connecticut to torpedo what the Senators representing the other two-thirds of the nation want. So, on healthcare as with everything else wrong in American governance today, the problem in this democracy relates to the fact that we AREN'T a democracy.
"More than twice as many babies die in the US (per 1000) than in Sweden, Bermuda, France etc. The US death rate is higher than Cuba, Portugal, Italy etc I could keep going (like another 40 countries).
What's wrong with universal health care if it results in less babies dying each year?"
The infant mortality rate correlates very strongly with and is among the best predictors of state failure.[4] IMR is also a useful indicator of a country's level of health or development, and is a component of the physical quality of life index. But the method of calculating IMR often varies widely between countries based on the way they define a live birth and how many premature infants are born in the country. The World Health Organization (WHO) defines a live birth as any born human being who demonstrates independent signs of life, including breathing, voluntary muscle movement, or heartbeat. Many countries, however, including certain European states and Japan, only count as live births cases where an infant breathes at birth, which makes their reported IMR numbers somewhat lower and raises their rates of perinatal mortality.[5]
The exclusion of any high-risk infants from the denominator or numerator in reported IMRs can be problematic for comparisons. Many countries, including the United States, Sweden or Germany, count an infant exhibiting any sign of life as alive, no matter the month of gestation or the size, but according to United States Centers for Disease Control researchers,[6] some other countries differ in these practices. All of the countries named adopted the WHO definitions in the late 1980s or early 1990s,[7] which are used throughout the European Union.[8] However, in 2009, the US CDC issued a report which stated that the American rates of infant mortality were affected by the United States' high rates of premature babies compared to European countries and which outlines the differences in reporting requirements between the United States and Europe, noting that France, the Czech Republic, Ireland, the Netherlands, and Poland do not report all live births of babies under 500 g and/or 22 weeks of gestation.
Nice copy and paste job without any credits, so I imagine a real "intelligent" person like you can explain why America is ranked 37th in the world for overall health care, yet pays the most by more than double the rest of the industrialized world.
Velma----you are ignorant of the fact that you can't accept fact....you believe everything you're dished out at CBS,MSNBC,CNN,ABC...etc including the specifics they hide from you gullible people! There is no helping you see other facts that are covered. You're ignorant because you want to be. I can't help you by bringing more to the table....he-ll you won't even help yourself. So while your sitting back expecting a handout from the government (which is what you believe) the rest will be busting their butts supplying the taxes taken from them to make your life easier. What's funny is that won't work for long.....the government will come to you and tell you to get off your butt and work along with the rest of the peons!! What goes around comes around....and vise versa......KARMA.....ignorance must be bliss!!!
Maybe it's me ignorant to the fact that there's nothing I can say or do to help bring more to this debate. It's already decided in certain minds which can't be changed. Don't start calling me right wing nothing.....I've brought people into my home that didn't have a pot to pi.ss in and help them get back on their feet....I was expected to help out my family....sisters....that were going thru bad times and I did it......It got to where they expected it......maybe that's why I am the way I am.....but I'm not going to make an excuse for me.....I did exactly what was expected of me by helping.....sometimes it just wears on you! I've farmed and ranched and when that went bad we got work and raised our kiddos....we've been down and out more than once, but we still pull our selves up by the bootstraps and try the best way we know how. I'm just sick of the government giving away our rights, taking our land, giving away our land to foreign investments, taking away everything AMERICA stood for years ago. America has turned her back on God, and the people!!
And Velma....I would rather be your friend than enemy.
crikeytx46, don't worry about not bringing anything useful to this debate. We see that.
Most reform supporters are not looking for a handout. They expect to PAY for coverage. But they would like to actually get the coverage they pay for, not have people paid to deny it just to fatten their bottom line. They aren't ignorant or non-working just because they think our current 47th-best system favors private insurance companies, hospital paper-shufflers, and million-dollar doctors over patients. Or because you personally have had some unrelated rough times.
Others would like to actually be able to BUY coverage at some affordable price, but find that living is a "pre-existing condition."
The Rev. Jesse Jackson on Wednesday night criticized Rep. Artur Davis (D-Ala.) for voting against the Democrats? signature healthcare bill.
?We even have blacks voting against the healthcare bill from Alabama,? Jackson said at a reception Wednesday night. ?You can?t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man.?
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2. Medi-Caid
3. DOD:Department Of Defense
4. VA:Hospitals
5. SCHIP
6. Indian Health Services
I Guess the Tea Baggers would call that
"Government Run-Socialized Medicine"
Did you know 51 Republican Congressmen are on [Medi-Care] yet said it was ..
"Going Bankrupt & it's Government Run-Socialized Medicine"
A Total of 155 Congressmen are on Medi-Care from Both Parties, but Republicans Call it "Government Run-Socialized Medicine"
Which leads me to Believe their Deceiving their Voters and Truly don't believe Medi-Care is "Socialized Medicine" they just don't want, for some Strange Reason, for the Rest of the USA, to have Access to the same Quality Treatment. Arizona Town Hall Meeting, John McCain was asked...
"Why can't I have the same Insurance Coverage that You've Got"
Fox News aired this Exchange, McCain, said later on Hannity..
"America's Not Ready, For Quality Health Coverage"
What kind of Lame Duck Response is that ?
I said to My Wife, that's it, This man is Semi-Senile
__________
George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and their 6 Year Majority Ruling, Big Spending Congress & Senate, did Nothing to Address Increasing Cost of Health Insurance, which is 16.8% of the GDP and will increase, without Health Care Reform.
Richard Nixon wanted Universal Health Care, but Those Damn tapes and Ted Kennedy Resisted it and Shot it Down. Teddy Kennedy Admitted it was his Error, Too Little Too Late. Not this Time.
President Clinton tried and it was Shot Down Immediately, the same Tactics were used this Past August, it Appeared to have Worked, but President Obama Stayed Steady, September the Tide Turned and the Momentum was Strong for a Public Option and Cost Cutting, Health Care Reform.
Dick Army Failed, The GOP Fear and Hate Mongering has Failed, Republican Talk Radio has Failed, the Republican Senate-Congress has Failed and most of All Big Insurance and their Ad Campaign Failed.
===========
Blah...blah...blah...more of the usual republiCON FEARmongering I see.
It's refreshing for a change to see congresscritters voting for their constituents needs over the for-profit insurance/pharmaceutical industries, unlike the GOP that has been bought and paid-for by the fascist corporatocracy!
Americans pay about twice per person for our 47th-best health care system as do citizens of any other wealthy democracy. In some ways we get a little more, in other ways less than they do -- but if you think American health care is "the world's best" (it often isn't) imagine how much better their health care would be if they spent what we do.
We also need to weigh the indirect costs of doing everything the way private insurance companies, hospital paper shufflers, and million-dollar doctors want us to. American companies struggle harder again foreign competitors that bear less employee insurance burdens, our bankruptcies and home foreclosures are doubled because of uncovered medical costs, neglected care eventually costs our society far more than timely care, criminals often go unjailed just because a County can?t afford to cover their medical care, etc.
Instead we get baldface lies, fear and smear, twisted logic, and hysterical claims trying to defeat valid assessments of how we can improve our system. Much of it seems to be based just on rabid rejection of anything the current Administration might support, rather than any rational assessment of any benefits or tradeoffs for our nation.
Instead we get baldface lies, fear and smear, twisted logic, and hysterical claims trying to defeat valid assessments of how we can improve our system. Much of it seems to be based just on rabid rejection of anything the current Administration might support, rather than any rational assessment of any benefits or tradeoffs for our nation.
========================================
Yep...it's truly sad that the minority republiCON party will just continue to try to defeat anything for the general welfare of the majority of the American people, in order to attempt to cause President Obama to fail. Their vicious attacks get worse by the day, despite the fact that America surely needs health care reform.
"More than twice as many babies die in the US (per 1000) than in Sweden, Bermuda, France etc. The US death rate is higher than Cuba, Portugal, Italy etc I could keep going (like another 40 countries).
What's wrong with universal health care if it results in less babies dying each year?"
The infant mortality rate correlates very strongly with and is among the best predictors of state failure.[4] IMR is also a useful indicator of a country's level of health or development, and is a component of the physical quality of life index. But the method of calculating IMR often varies widely between countries based on the way they define a live birth and how many premature infants are born in the country. The World Health Organization (WHO) defines a live birth as any born human being who demonstrates independent signs of life, including breathing, voluntary muscle movement, or heartbeat. Many countries, however, including certain European states and Japan, only count as live births cases where an infant breathes at birth, which makes their reported IMR numbers somewhat lower and raises their rates of perinatal mortality.[5]
The exclusion of any high-risk infants from the denominator or numerator in reported IMRs can be problematic for comparisons. Many countries, including the United States, Sweden or Germany, count an infant exhibiting any sign of life as alive, no matter the month of gestation or the size, but according to United States Centers for Disease Control researchers,[6] some other countries differ in these practices. All of the countries named adopted the WHO definitions in the late 1980s or early 1990s,[7] which are used throughout the European Union.[8] However, in 2009, the US CDC issued a report which stated that the American rates of infant mortality were affected by the United States' high rates of premature babies compared to European countries and which outlines the differences in reporting requirements between the United States and Europe, noting that France, the Czech Republic, Ireland, the Netherlands, and Poland do not report all live births of babies under 500 g and/or 22 weeks of gestation.
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Nice copy and paste job without any credits, so I imagine a real "intelligent" person like you can explain why America is ranked 37th in the world for overall health care, yet pays the most by more than double the rest of the industrialized world.
Maybe it's me ignorant to the fact that there's nothing I can say or do to help bring more to this debate. It's already decided in certain minds which can't be changed. Don't start calling me right wing nothing.....I've brought people into my home that didn't have a pot to pi.ss in and help them get back on their feet....I was expected to help out my family....sisters....that were going thru bad times and I did it......It got to where they expected it......maybe that's why I am the way I am.....but I'm not going to make an excuse for me.....I did exactly what was expected of me by helping.....sometimes it just wears on you! I've farmed and ranched and when that went bad we got work and raised our kiddos....we've been down and out more than once, but we still pull our selves up by the bootstraps and try the best way we know how. I'm just sick of the government giving away our rights, taking our land, giving away our land to foreign investments, taking away everything AMERICA stood for years ago. America has turned her back on God, and the people!!
And Velma....I would rather be your friend than enemy.
Most reform supporters are not looking for a handout. They expect to PAY for coverage. But they would like to actually get the coverage they pay for, not have people paid to deny it just to fatten their bottom line. They aren't ignorant or non-working just because they think our current 47th-best system favors private insurance companies, hospital paper-shufflers, and million-dollar doctors over patients. Or because you personally have had some unrelated rough times.
Others would like to actually be able to BUY coverage at some affordable price, but find that living is a "pre-existing condition."
?We even have blacks voting against the healthcare bill from Alabama,? Jackson said at a reception Wednesday night. ?You can?t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man.?
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/68451-jackson-you-cant-vote-against-healthcare-and-call-yourself-a-black-man
Vote like we want you too vote or we will call you a white man?