Well, I am paying for people on welfare (ALREADY), and I am paying for people on welfare (AGAIN), and I cannot afford to take my own children I provide insurance for to the doctor because the deductibles and premiums cost so much I have no income left because I have to provide them food, a home, and clothing so they can go to school and become educated, so that they can pay for people on welfare (YET AGAIN - X2)!!!!
The government needs to butt out. Quit giving things to people who sit on their duffs, refuse to work, smoke crack, sell drugs, have babies they cannot afford, and buy CRAP with their food stamps that makes them FAT and drives health care costs up!!!!
I find it interesting that people don't want to force the uninsured to be insured. However, I guess its OK to force me to pay for the uninsured through my Tax dollars that support emergency rooms. Either people should be forced to have insurance or we should not have to pay for people who don't have insurance. You people need to make up your mind what you want because none of you are making any sense.
Heck No to forced healthcare! This is evil by this so-called American government we now have and we need to stop them. This is America not socialism forced Europe or communism thirdworld countries! We built the best & most free country and we did not have these steal your money forced crazy laws like Europe until all these European immigrants and others were allowed to run over here and they brought their hellish ways. Now Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck as they did in Europe! Those beast cannot force me to pay for health care I am not using and to steal from me to make health insurance companies rich and lord over us as they did with that dang forced car insurance which we also never used to have in America. I will not have my money stolen out of my pocket to pay for healthcare. They keep telling the whole world to come to America and live and now they expect us to pay for all these people to have America's goodness which does not belong to them! Those beast are stealing our money and making these evil laws to control us and rob us and they get everything for free off our tax money! They are going to put us in jail & fine us if we don't have healthcare - this is NON-AMERICAN! It is dang communism. If you have a problem with our healthcare system get out of America and go back to where you came - you don't belong here anyway! The solution to high prices is to let other doctors open their own clinics for competition and make laws that will cause those excessive prices to go down but you don't mandate people to pay for health care. All those demons in the white house are mostly immigrants from Europe even if they were born here, and those monsters are destroying America and turning us to look like where their poverty horrible butts came from and us REAL AMERICANS who built this country need to fight this crap. They can try to put me in jail but I will fight to the end and will not allow these greedy lying demons to steal my money making me live with hardly nothing in order to make others rich and put them in control.
I am a free American. I am not in a Nazi Germany. This is my body and when I need a doctor I pay for one. I am 63 and when the good lord says, hey it is time for you to come to me so be it. If I am in an auto accident and have a brain injury or a spinal cord injury I do not want medical treatment. I do not want and will not be forced to buy health insurance and I will not pay a fine for not getting it. I and other tax payers already pay 72% of medical insurance for congress. I think that I should receive back all of the money I have already paid towards medicaid and then if I need some extra care treatment I would have the money for it. Quit paying for any services for illegals and we would not have to worry about this issue. Send them back where they belong and if there citizen family wants to be with them let them go to. They are just another burden on this county any way.
The democrats may be in control of Congress and the Executive Branch, but they are infiltrated with what are really republicans posing as democrats. Actually, I've got a feeling that, when it comes to serving their corporate interests, it doesn't matter which party they're in. Those whose purpose it is to serve corporate interests are the ones who, in the background, keep the rest of us at odds with people of the opposite race, immigrants, conservatives vs. liberals, Christian vs. Muslim, etc., so that we don't see that the real enemy is the corporate entity. The real battle is the entity vs. the individual, and guess who?s winning so far..........
People who do not buy health insurance are hurting all of us. When they run to the E.R. the rest of us end up paying for their care, whether it be thru higher insurance premiums or higher taxes.
If people are to have the "freedom to be stupid" and not buy health insurance, then hospitals and other health care facilities should have the freedom to turn these irresponsible people away.
You speak as if this is really a choice for people. Don't you think that if they were insurable or could afford it, people would buy health insurance? That's why it doesn't make any sense to try to force people to buy health insurance -- if they could afford it, they would have already purchased it. But, even if you do have health insurance, that doesn't mean they're going to cover you when you need them most. They arbitrarily deny coverage to their own customers rampantly, causing an average of 20,000 deaths per year. Another detail conveniently overlooked by those who are able to buy health insurance (who all seem to be totally self-centered) is that anyone who has ever been sick is considered by the health insurance industry to have a pre-existing condition and they cannot purchase insurance at any price. Any one of us could join those ranks at any time.
I really don't understand why so many people seem more worried about the ability of the insurance industry to be able to survive more than they do people surviving. The insurance industry is an unnecessary middleman causing us to spend way more than any other people in the world on our medical care; they bring nothing of any value to the healthcare table; they regularly deny treatment that doctors have ordered; they spend enormous amounts of money on trying to find ways to deny claims and lobbying Congress to prevent healthcare reform; they reward their employees for the number of claims they are able to deny; they're one of the few business that receives money up front and may never have to do anything for that money. Germany has a healthcare system that is government run with private insurance companies too. Those insurance companies must be non-profit and must cover 100% of all claims for any who asks. Compare that with what we have.
Have you ever considered that "government-run" just means the government is paying the bill, not choosing your doctor or having any say in what treatments you receive (which the insurance industry currently does). I would gladly pay more in taxes to not have to worry about not receiving medical care when I need it. The savings to me and my employer for health insurance coverage would more than offset any tax increase. Of course, this is a single-payer system I'm talking about, and that wasn't even allowed to be a part of the current discussion due to our elected officials being bought off by the health insurance industry. Who do you think is circulating all the ridiculous lies about government-run healthcare?
I either pay for my health insurance or YOU pay when I go to the ER. However, I do think there should a (very limited) way to OPT OUT for people who are not allowed by their religion to use what most of us think of as health care. Like the Amish don't have to pay into Social Security because they aren't allowed to collect it (I understand they can't buy insurance of that sort because they aren't supposed to insure against God's will but I don't know how health insurance would work for them). I know, it's a nitpicky little detail, but whoever is writing the bill needs to cover it and I don't see that anybody has, yet.
Biiobob I am tired of this justification. It costs us money if you smoke,you have unprotected sex if you drive too fast. I could go on and on. Every behavior is controllable now because it costs the govt money and therefore it allows the govt to control virtually every behavior. this is the ethos of big govt. the more govt pays for certain things the more it justifies controlling actions. See nyc deciding that restaurants can't use certain fats in their food or one of the best that diners should not serve eggs over easy because it might make you sick. thankfully that got laughed out of town.
I'm very concerned about the individual mandate. While in theory, I'm all for it, but when you get to the details it is likely to create a backlash against the Democrats that will last years. Perhaps if the mandate required a very affordable catastrophic policy then it might be more acceptable to many people, but as currently structured in Baucus bill it is a tax on middle income people to make them purchase something they may not need, may not want and probably cannot afford. Baucus proposes a premium of 13% of $66,000 income for family of four or a $3800 penalty for failure to insure. This may be unaffordable for people making twice this amount. And Baucus is FORCING people to buy insurance from private companies whose primary motivation is profit and enhanced shareholder value. If this bill passes in this form, the Democrats are going to be run out of town, no matter the rest of the reforms. As a supporter of universal coverage, I really hate to see how this might end.
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The government needs to butt out. Quit giving things to people who sit on their duffs, refuse to work, smoke crack, sell drugs, have babies they cannot afford, and buy CRAP with their food stamps that makes them FAT and drives health care costs up!!!!
If people are to have the "freedom to be stupid" and not buy health insurance, then hospitals and other health care facilities should have the freedom to turn these irresponsible people away.
I really don't understand why so many people seem more worried about the ability of the insurance industry to be able to survive more than they do people surviving. The insurance industry is an unnecessary middleman causing us to spend way more than any other people in the world on our medical care; they bring nothing of any value to the healthcare table; they regularly deny treatment that doctors have ordered; they spend enormous amounts of money on trying to find ways to deny claims and lobbying Congress to prevent healthcare reform; they reward their employees for the number of claims they are able to deny; they're one of the few business that receives money up front and may never have to do anything for that money. Germany has a healthcare system that is government run with private insurance companies too. Those insurance companies must be non-profit and must cover 100% of all claims for any who asks. Compare that with what we have.
Have you ever considered that "government-run" just means the government is paying the bill, not choosing your doctor or having any say in what treatments you receive (which the insurance industry currently does). I would gladly pay more in taxes to not have to worry about not receiving medical care when I need it. The savings to me and my employer for health insurance coverage would more than offset any tax increase. Of course, this is a single-payer system I'm talking about, and that wasn't even allowed to be a part of the current discussion due to our elected officials being bought off by the health insurance industry. Who do you think is circulating all the ridiculous lies about government-run healthcare?