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Graywalker says:
I've been reading over this bill - get the text from http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3400ih.txt.pdf - and it is DESPICABLE.

More Republican "Feed the Rich and Kill the Poor" mentality. Your Private Physician can now be paid with Tax-free money from a Health Savings Account! PLUS, you can put more money into it! Tax Shelters for ALL.
I'm trying to write an impartial summary of what the bill does... but dang... so far I am just disgusted - and I am only on page 43 of 268.
It gives a $2,000 tax credit to people under 200% of Federal Poverty line, plus $500 for up to two dependents.
Rapes the HIPPA laws with exemptions.
... and those paltry tax credits can not pay for your insurance if it covers abortion.
Talk about FORCING your religious opinions on everyone else. So much for Freedom and Empowering patients. Oh, well, just not "THOSE" patients.
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Graywalker says:
I find most people are just plain confused about what is going on.
Universal Coverage does not equal Government Run Health Care. Universal Coverage means getting everyone who can possibly afford it some form of Health Insurance, whether that is Private Insurance through their employer, Private or Public Insurance through the Health Insurance Exchange or Medicaid/Medicare or VA Coverage.
The Public Option would be Government Run Health Insurance, like Medicaid. You still choose your doctors, your doctors and you still chose your care.
The H.R. 3200 Bill Increases your choices, Prevents a lot of the Rationing that Private Insurance does NOW and will lower premiums across the board.
Stop the Lies. http://www.nowpublic.com/user/519918/assignments
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MarkEGreen says:
Folks opposed to universal healthcare seem to only object when it might apply to the 18-64 year old population segments. This happens to be the only profitable segment to insure. No one seems to complaint when state and federal programs are extended to the most expensive segments of society (65 years and over, 0-17 years old, disabled, underprivileged, and/or Veterans. These are ?single payer programs? (governmental). Why do many continue to fight to let private insurance companies carve out the only profitable segment to get rich on? The ?profit margin? associated with this segment would help pay for the rest, if we can capture it. We do not need a socialized system. We do need universal coverage (or at least a public option)from a privately run, non-profit, single payer system that pays providers based on a fee-for-service basis. The money is there and it can be done sustainably if we establish and maintain some ?means adjusted? personal responsibility applied to every single person.

Mark Green MD
www.OurHealthReform.com
MarkGreen@OurHealthReform.com
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proudmilvet says:
Socialism, Marxism, Whatever. It Would Still be an Improvement over anything the Republicans Offer!!
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pasmalltown says:
TO monitutonka July 29, 2009 2:31 PM EDT

If you were truely born in 1944 then somewhere in those 65 years you should have heard about the "sweet" health care package that Congress has - not just the Democrats, but Republicans and Independents AND all of their respective staffers. It's no wonder no one in Congress is worried about health care reform, they have a health care package covers care for just about any condition, procedure, drug, you name it. It's also the reason why no one in Congress is particularly concerned about acting on health care reform before they take their August recess. Like Alfred E. Newman once said "What? Me worry?" - They ALREADY HAVE IT ALL! Not to mention that this perk follows them into retirement as well.........
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two-cats says:
This bill sounds like basically more of the same where insurance accountants make decisions about our health care. I have insurance and had a difficult time even seeing a doctor with my hand fractured, wasting money on nurse practitioners. Americans are not getting good medical care. It's become a farce!
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ibsteve2u says:
"encouraging states to assist consumers with pre-existing conditions"

lollll...gee, with the continued flight of jobs due to Republican free trade policies yielding every more cash-strapped states, all ya'll folks with pre-existing conditions better start saving up for your own cremation should the Republicans get their way.
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beaumuff replies:
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The flight of jobs was signed by your beloved Clintstone. China gave Obama a good thrashing this week for his spending habits. But Bill is still getting money from it for the "Clintstone Foundation".
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zonkzilla says:
The Republicans are right on!
De-regulate all corporations in the US and let them do as they please while offering them huge tax cuts on profits. Corporations will always do the right thing and would never do things to give America the shaft so they can make more money
The Republican "hands off corporations" policy under Bush worked so well and has given us such a great economy I wonder why they didn't think of it sooner! LOL
Republicans - bought and paid for puppets of the wealthy robbing us and giving to the rich.
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grabandgo says:
Why isn't anyone talking about the price of drugs, or the salaries and bonuses the drug company exec's get.
THIS IS A BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM.
You can buy drugs in Canada for 1/2 of what we pay here, and they still make a profit.
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brianp55 says:
Once again the Republicans' professed distaste for government programs is manifest in this collection of disjointed proposals which they are attempting to peddle as a comprehensive health plan. The free market is a wonderful thing, but how many times do we have to be victimized by an absence of regulations and half-measures before we learn that somethings have sufficient scope and impact on our lives that they MUST be controlled by the government? These assinine measures being put forth by the Repubs will never work. This program must be orchestrated at the level of the national government.
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