California Jury Sides with Conscientious Firefighters!
A jury in San Diego has decided local firefighters have the right to refuse to participate in the city's "gay pride" parade.
The Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) sued on the firefighters' behalf after the San Diego Fire Department forced them to participate in the parade and retaliated against them for complaining about the harassment they endured during the event.
After the lawsuit, the Fire Department changed its policy.
Many people may mistakenly think the ?gay pride? parade is merely a ?fun? event,? said Joe Infranco, senior counsel for ADF. ?They never would have imagined the crude sexual harassment these firefighters were forced to endure.
"In truth, the goal of homosexual advocates is to undermine society?s long-held values. They continue to seek this, whether by demanding participation in ?gay pride? parades or by trampling the democratic process to redefine marriage.?
If I am mistaken just respond in the usual gay vicious diatribe that we come to know as Gay Pride. So Sad!
First... I do agree that these firefighters should not have been forced to participate in the SF Pride parade/events. It should have been the indviduals personal choice whether to participate or not. So I applaud the courts decision in this matter.
However, secondly... just how is the germain to the discussion at hand of gay marraige, and equal right afforded to gay couples in said institution?
Have you ever been to Mardi Gras or a rock concert? I'm a woman and some straight men get gross, too, but not all of them. I live near San Diego and some of the men get carried away at the Gay Pride Parade but not all of them. The firemen have every right to stay away this year from the parade, as the parade organizers have publicly stated, but I hope they make it clear that not all the participants and men along the parade route were harassing them. Women put up this junk from straight men all the time. Why do you think we like to hang with gay men!
Of course he does. He supports any kind of immorality. If he approves of that, maybe more people will begin to approve of his lying and conniving ways.
they're not. All the gays want is the same rights as heterosexual couples. How is that forcing their lifestyle on us? If anything heterosexual lifestyle has been forced unto them for god knows how long.
Gays have the exact same rights...any gay consenting man can marry any gay consenting woman...just like straights...You are trying to get that changed and perverted. That is what the fight is about.
darth...The gay couples I have known over the years have alot of appreciation for each other's company. You could learn alot from a gay couple who has been together many years; after reading your comments, I can tell that desperation for jewelry would be the only cause for a woman (or man) to consider marriage to you.
Nope... nor will I be able to get another man pregnant. I recognise and accept that a union between two men or women will not result in a child.
Technically, yeah... Homosexuality is a "genetic deadend" in the greater scheme of things. The point is though, homosexuality still exits. Logically one could say it should have died out, but guess what it hasn't. In fact we have you heterosexuals to thank for it. Without you, we wouldn't be here today having this conversation.
Homosexuality is a "genetic deadend" in the greater scheme of things. The point is though, homosexuality still exits. Logically one could say it should have died out, but guess what it hasn't. ---------------------
Which suggests that it arises sponteneously, it is not necessarily "passed on" by heredity.
So are many other genetic ailments... The chances of theme arising are not necessarily predermined. It's mostly a roll of the dice that it will crop up.
As far as the it being genetic, I would have to say yes. It is.
I knew I was different from when I was very young. People around recognised it to. I even attempted to live as a heterosexual, dabbled is it were, but it was just a life of misery. Denying who I was, and not feeling safe being who I was. Especially since I had no "gay mentors" to influence me while I was growing up.
by darthcheney345 July 15, 2009 9:13 PM EDT What if homosexuality is not genetic? ====================
As for the question of "what if"? I have wondered if there has been "nurture" or "choice" component to it. I think thats a normal thing to question. Of which it does remind me of a gentleman/friend I used to know...
He often vacillated between being gay or being straight, usually his "switch" would occur right after a hard break-up with his current partner. But yet, he wouldn't come out and say he was Bi. So for him, I would certainly say he was making a deliberate choice in the matter, acting out in pain from his current break-up.
In fact, he was amongst the first to attempt to tell me I was "confused" and "going through a phase" when I first came out. As such, he was also one of the first friends I lost too because of my coming out, which also happend in tandem with my divorce.
So, if asked if for some there is a "choice", I would say yes. But for myself and others like me, I would say no. As the struggle to reconcile yourself to living in a manner contrary to what you feel inside, the pain and self loathing is just to great.
So go ahead, make a choice and attempt to live as a homosexual yourself for a period of time. Try and reconcile yourself to being something you are not. Try and be attracted to someone you are not.
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A jury in San Diego has decided local firefighters have the right to refuse to participate in the city's "gay pride" parade.
The Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) sued on the firefighters' behalf after the San Diego Fire Department forced them to participate in the parade and retaliated against them for complaining about the harassment they endured during the event.
After the lawsuit, the Fire Department changed its policy.
Many people may mistakenly think the ?gay pride? parade is merely a ?fun? event,? said Joe Infranco, senior counsel for ADF. ?They never would have imagined the crude sexual harassment these firefighters were forced to endure.
"In truth, the goal of homosexual advocates is to undermine society?s long-held values. They continue to seek this, whether by demanding participation in ?gay pride? parades or by trampling the democratic process to redefine marriage.?
If I am mistaken just respond in the usual gay vicious diatribe that we come to know as Gay Pride. So Sad!
However, secondly... just how is the germain to the discussion at hand of gay marraige, and equal right afforded to gay couples in said institution?
Most Drs. are smarter than to believe that cr@p you're posting.
Why would gays want to subject themselves to the same kind of abuse?
Nope... nor will I be able to get another man pregnant. I recognise and accept that a union between two men or women will not result in a child.
Technically, yeah... Homosexuality is a "genetic deadend" in the greater scheme of things. The point is though, homosexuality still exits. Logically one could say it should have died out, but guess what it hasn't. In fact we have you heterosexuals to thank for it. Without you, we wouldn't be here today having this conversation.
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Which suggests that it arises sponteneously, it is not necessarily "passed on" by heredity.
What if homosexuality is not genetic?
As far as the it being genetic, I would have to say yes. It is.
I knew I was different from when I was very young. People around recognised it to. I even attempted to live as a heterosexual, dabbled is it were, but it was just a life of misery. Denying who I was, and not feeling safe being who I was. Especially since I had no "gay mentors" to influence me while I was growing up.
So yeah, I would have to say it is genetic.
What if homosexuality is not genetic?
====================
As for the question of "what if"? I have wondered if there has been "nurture" or "choice" component to it. I think thats a normal thing to question. Of which it does remind me of a gentleman/friend I used to know...
He often vacillated between being gay or being straight, usually his "switch" would occur right after a hard break-up with his current partner. But yet, he wouldn't come out and say he was Bi. So for him, I would certainly say he was making a deliberate choice in the matter, acting out in pain from his current break-up.
In fact, he was amongst the first to attempt to tell me I was "confused" and "going through a phase" when I first came out. As such, he was also one of the first friends I lost too because of my coming out, which also happend in tandem with my divorce.
So, if asked if for some there is a "choice", I would say yes. But for myself and others like me, I would say no. As the struggle to reconcile yourself to living in a manner contrary to what you feel inside, the pain and self loathing is just to great.
So go ahead, make a choice and attempt to live as a homosexual yourself for a period of time. Try and reconcile yourself to being something you are not. Try and be attracted to someone you are not.