Comments on: The Dicey Politics of a Second Stimulus

[caddillackid1]

What i recall is President Obama stating that we have to do something. I recall him saying the failure to act would be far worse than doing nothing...so he did something. I have followed this very closely and in fact jobs have been created...appx 150,000- 200,000 jobs created or saved...however with the loss of 2 million jobs over the past several months have clearly offset that. Does not mean the stimulus did not have an effect. It means the train called the US economy is still plunging on it's track toward a downward spiral, who could have predicted it would be this steep. The first stimulus was designed to put the brakes on the train's downward spiral...we know this by the verbage used by the whitehouse when it created the plan to CREATE or SAVE a certain number of jobs. My question to all those who are critical of our president is, Who can stop a speeding train? Much like an actual train, you can press the breaks but that train is not going to stop on a dime. I think this is what we are seeing with the US economy (without the benefit of an odometer to tell the speed of a decline or muchless when it will actually stop. I cringe when i see a republican, let alone hearing one speak about how the stimulus is not working or harking about how this baby administration, barely six months into a four year term has failed! I think we'll need another three and a half years before we can fairly deem this administration a failure. Let is not forget that it was 8 YEARS OF REBULICAN LEADERSHIP THAT GOT US INTO THIS MESS, got that economic train rolling toward disaster in the first place, headed by a man without a brain needless to say a plan...namely (Bush). So the republicans and all the nay-sayers have an approximate 6 month track record to based their opinions of our democratic president on, but the rest of us have 8 years of cold hard facts, screw ups, lies and deceit to based ours on.

I also recall another leader that served 8 years in office by the name of Bill Clinton who happened to leave the country with a surplus when he left office. So you put 8 years of democratic leadership next to eight years of failed repulican leadership...now we have a real level playing field to judge on. Who or what party is the real failure? The repulicans that's who!...and it does not take a rocket scientist to see it.

I'll say what Obama can't to republicans and all the other nay-sayers...if your not part of the solution then you are part of the problem...so lead (failed at that already), follow, or shut up and sit down...your show is over, so just say goodbye!!

And as for those that mentioned they are scared for their children...you were not scared when you laid up and conceived them...you should not have had them or you should have used birth control!! Using children to make your lame points stronger does not have an good effect and gets no sympathy here!!! Deal with it!

[speakinup22]

FDRs plans didn't work. I suspect we'd have done better if the Government had just kept out of the whole thing.

Obama is going to get inflation going just like Jimmy Carter did.

That will make people slow down on their spending even more.

It will hurt the middle class that has worked all of their lives to save what little they do have. I suppose it is one way to pay the Chineese for all the money we owe them, but I sure don't like the idea of losing all I have to HOPEFULLY fix a bad market.

So you aredefinitly correct. None of these folks know what they are doing - Don't go about spending blindly in the hops of fixing it.

[speakinup22]

pubsrtoast - All things being relative - Obama is less popular than Bush at this point in his presidency. For some very good reasons. Bush's popularity was still on the rise.

Check them out if you care to be informed.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690358175013837.html


It will get you up off the floor from your laughing fit.

Barry is crashing like we said he'd do.

[speakinup22]

pubsrtoast - All things being relative - Obama is less popular than Bush at this point in his presidency. For some very good reasons.

Check them out if you care to be informed.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690358175013837.html

[wheeljc]

Prior to Team Obama-Geithner deciding to become Corporate Titans, over 83% of the non farm/government jobs were in companies with 500 or fewer employees -- SMALL BUSINESSES. THIS IS WHERE THE WORK IS!! Why do they continue to throw money at the small fraction of big business, except to appease the unions (a very small percentage of the real work force)??

When will the come to their senses (if that is even possible) that to put America back to work, they must provide encouragement and incentives for small businesses -- NOT TAX THE COMPANIES OUT OF EXISTENCE!

Even with GM, part of their announcement today was 4,000 lost jobs!! Is that what our bail out money went for?? The problems we have today lay at the feet of Obama, Geithner, Pelosi and Reid. Come 2010 and 2012, this is going to be remembered!

God forbid these business novices trying to run another 'stimulus' through. They could cause a tipping point of the population that they have not anticipated!

I feel that we have stacked the White House with a group that is so far removed from reality that they CANNOT SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES -- INCLUDING A CZAR A DAY! Just how bad is it going to have to get before someone will step forward and tell the emperor that HE NOT ONLY HAS NO CLOTHES ON, BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY CLOTHES???

This is getting sadder every day.

[speakinup22]

pubsrtoast - I stand corrected. I had been mislead by an earlier post.

I ALWAYS welcome the truth.

Your delivery could be somewhat improved, but it is truthful.

I STILL think Pelosi's spending is WAY out of line. What good will it do to spend to the point of inflating our money to possibly save the economy ?

[speakinup22]

Yeah ubrew will be there to help them. HA HA HA HA HA HA - NOT!
And neither will Mr Obama.

The Government has ALWAYS been inefficent, and THAT is why we don't want them to be in control of our money. Look at Social Security. Look at Medicare. FDR's spend policies did NOTHING to take us out of the depression in the 30s. WWII did that for us.

The recession will take care itself if left alone, most likely just as fast as barry spends our money on his "stimulus".

Do YOU know of anyone that has gotten a job because of the last stimulus ?

Recession is when your neighbor loses their job.
Depression is when you lose your job.
Recovery is when Obama, Pelosi, and Harry loses their jobs.

[speakinup22]

Recession is when your neighbor loses their job.
Depression is when you lose your job.
Recovery is when Obama, Pelosi, and Harry loses their jobs.

[speakinup22]

And you'll get something for nothing, right ?

Which the rest of us will have to pay for, thru the nose.

Why don't you move to Canada ?

[isanyonelistening]

tincup356, thank you for one of the only sensical posts I have seen here. All I get from this article, as with most political articles, is that the Democrats and Republicans are trying to figure out how to spin trainwreck after trainwreck to make themselves look good while placing all blame squarely on the shoulders of the opposing party, and no one tries to actually fix the problem. On article after article I am disheartened to see so many people taking such an "us vs. them" mentality and constantly pointing fingers. Unfortunately, no matter what side you're on in this great debate, it's the losing side. Until our narcissistic, arrogant, and greedy democratically elected representatives (including the President-current and past) start looking out for the interests of the American people rather than the interests of their own image and pocket books, things will only get worse. Until all Americans, politician or not, start TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS, our situation CAN NOT and WILL NOT improve. Sadly, I don't see this happening anytime soon. We continue to be distracted and betrayed by the media whose only concern is the almighty dollar. If you are waiting for another politician or political party to come along and fix all of our problems, I'm afraid you'll be sorely disappointed. History has proven time and time again that more government only causes more problems. The only one looking out for your family's best interests is you...sad but true. Don't let these criminals continue to trick us and tear our great country apart.

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."
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