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- That is another lie that you democrats just love to say.
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- Iam4honesty:
YOU and elitist? Please. Your nothing of the sort. And for you to say something like "I am one of those you would probably call an elitist. I stayed in school. My studies at the university were Sociology, Psychology and Political Science. So maybe you can understand how some of the things that you and I were both taught in 'civics' class got pushed to the back a little."
Now prove that Rowdy did not finish school? Prove that most Republicans did not finish school. Come on, you got a big mouth and I am tired of you constant krap. You think you are so smart and you like to belittle those who are against you. So now lets see how smart you aren't. I have talked to College Professors that would disagree with you. So lets go, take your best shot, or are you going to cower down and not prove it. I mean you have done a good job now avoiding me. Come on, prove you are 4 honesty, lets see some honesty from you for once in your miserable life - Reply to this comment
- In the beginning, HMOs were a good idea, but the law changed them. Initially HMOs like Kaiser charged all members the same and provided care with their employed doctors at their own hospitals. It was cheaper than other forms of health insurance. Now there are HMOs which are money changers tking premiums and dividing them up between independent doctors and hosptials. These new HMOs are just an insurance plan with less benefits.
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- For Health Care insurance issues -- everyone should have to put out some type of effort/work to receive health insurance, if they are not already working. Old folks can volunteer time, young people should be working. Everyone needs some type of responsibility -- not just expect the "government" to do everything for them.
We agree with Sen. Schumer that insurance companies need to have effective checks to prevent price gouging, etc. Some health care insurance companies could be NON-profit corporations.
Thanks for your good coverage. CBS news is TOPS for us!! - Reply to this comment
- New Republican Healthcare Proposal:
First, If you can't make a profit off the sick, let them die.
Second, there is no second. - Reply to this comment
- Medicare has worked for more than 40 years
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- Stop calling it healthcare reform and start calling it what it is:
National Medicare/Medicaid refinancing.
That's all it is. - Reply to this comment
- The post office sure would like to make us pay for emails. I bet they wish there was not: UPS, Fed Ex... Competition is healthy.
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- NEVER ENDING DEBATE ON HEALTHCARE REFORM
BLAME THE DEMOCRATS
BLAME THE REPUBLICANS
BLAME THE LAWYERS
BLAME THE INSURANCE COMPANIES
BLAME WASHINGTON
BLAH-BLAH-BLAH
QUOTE FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING--"THE PARALYSIS OF ANALYSIS"
GET OFF YOUR COLLECTIVE BUTTS AND TRY SOMETHING!!
IF IT DOESN'T WORK--TRY SOMETHING ELSE UNTIL SOMETHING WORKS!! - Reply to this comment
- IF you have a better option lets hear it. Frankly I'm so tired of you deny and stall folks it's beyond belief. We have tried YOUR way for about 3 decades and to say it has been a complete and total failure is an understatement. This is CERTAINLY one case when Stay the Course is NOT an option. So stop being so childish about losing the election and get into the debate.
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- It seems some do not care about the nation or it's people. If they can not make a profit then it's off the table. Frankly when we spend TWICE what anyone else does and provide much less, I say it's time we tried something different. Let's put a Public Plan out there and let the PEOPLE make the decision as to how we go with this.
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- You mean like Dodd did with Freddie and Fannie? Or do you just give him a pass. If you were to look, the top three campaign contributions from both banks were to Democrats. So before you start throwing stones, do some research. You democrats like to bring up stuff like this and act as if you are better, when you are not. Dodd, told us the banks were fine, the were not. So stop acting like you democrats are perfect.
by iam4honesty July 5, 2009 10:42 AM PDT
Exactly! The democrats in congress should simply ram legislation through. I don't quiet understand why they are being so lilly-livered.
Obviously there are a lot of things about the democrats you do not understand.
by rightaboutit July 5, 2009 11:29 AM PDT
I'm beginning to think the democrats lack a spine. They want to be bipartisan. We need to track these spineless democrats and send them packing to.
You know, if you did that, you would be getting rid of a lot of the senate. But good, go ahead do that. At least if you get rid of those who need to be gotten rid of, this country might stand a chance. But I am totally against and All Democrat or All Republican Congress - Reply to this comment
- Excellent post iam4honesty. We have seen what the "Market" has done with health care over the last 3 decades and it has not only not gotten any better it has gotten much worse.
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- "I am going to make sure we are not going to nationalize health insurance, and a public plan is the first step to doing that," Grassley told guest moderator John Dickerson Sunday.
Are you paying attention Iowa?
Your senator is siding with the predatory insurance companies to make sure your health care costs continue to skyrocket and those that prey on the sick and needy are protected.
VOTE THIS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR CRETIN OUT OF OFFICE. - Reply to this comment
- As an RN with over 40 years of experience, I'd like to add a few ideas for saving money.
Review Joint Commission rules such as: requiring surgery providers to fax Medication Administration Records to Primary care providers.
And faxing phone orders to MD offices. All perhaps good in theory but does not work in the real world. It uses valuable time and resources and no one is finding it helpful and kills millions of trees with all the fax paper. Who is reviewing JCAHO? They are out of control.
Standardize as much as possible in equipment--such as BP cuff hook- ups and pulse oximeter hook-ups and EKG monitor paper---so that we can shop for more value oriented products---and not be stuck with only buying on certain kind of equipment.
Help eleviate all the RN and LVN license issues with telephone support nurses--one license in one state ought to be enough.
Limit ICU care in hopeless situations--where you only prolong the dying process.
Limit unfair advantage as far as insurance paypment for some surgery centers--who do not have to deal with all the other kinds of patients like hospitals do.
Require and expedite recycling of all the billions of gloves we all use.
Make talking with a doctor as important financially as a procedure and you will cut down on the number of unnecessary procedures. - Reply to this comment
- Correction: The name of the company in my above post was Universal Health Systems, Inc. (not Universal Health Care Services).
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- Our entire health care system is corrupt and immoral.
Taking care of our sick and needy should be a national moral imperative, as it is in many other countries.
We need to take the profit out of health care.
We don't need millionaire doctors.
We don't need those that prey upon the sick and needy, such as the vulture-like, predatory insurance companies.
We don't need hospitals and HMO's to make billions in profits at the expense of those unfortunate enough to be sick.
WE DON'T NEED POLITICIANS THAT ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. VOTE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM OUT ON THEIR EARS.
Demand Universal Health Care right now! - Reply to this comment
- by IThoughtItWasFunny2 July 5, 2009 12:10 PM PDT
by iam4honesty July 5, 2009 10:19 AM PDT
Yes, and the fire departments are 'socialized' fire protection, police departments are 'socialized' crime prevention, the public school system is a 'socialized' education system, and on and on. Pure capitalism will not work.
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Capitalism has worked in this country for over 200 years...where did you get your information, off some commie rag?
Fire, police departments and public schools are NOT socialized programs, they are programs supported and regulated by locals...and have nothing whatsoever to do with federal government.
Never taken a civics class?
Your little offerings never cease to entertain. Thank you so much for the information. I had no idea the federal government has absolutely nothing to do with public education, and yes, I did take a 'civics' class. If I remember correctly that was in Junior High School. However, I am one of those you would probably call an elitist. I stayed in school. My studies at the university were Sociology, Psychology and Political Science. So maybe you can understand how some of the things that you and I were both taught in 'civics' class got pushed to the back a little.
I will say this, though, you are correct. Our country has nurtured a capitalist system for more than two hundred years. I shuddered a few times but was held upright by a few different programs that benefited the common citizen, like medicare and social security. Without the addition of 'social' programs such as those it is likely we would now be living in a different system. - Reply to this comment
- Our entire health care system is corrupt and immoral.
Taking care of our sick and needy should be a national moral imperative, as it is in many other countries.
We need to take the profit out of health care.
We don't need millionaire doctors.
We don't need those that prey upon the sick and needy, such as the vulture-like, predatory insurance companies.
We don't need hospitals and HMO's to make billions in profits at the expense of those unfortunate enough to be sick.
WE DON'T NEED POLITICIANS THAT ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. VOTE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM OUT ON THEIR EARS.
Demand Universal Health Care right now! - Reply to this comment
- I will admit that my take on private vs. public health care is somewhat biased. It's a direct result of something I saw happen first hand.
For years, we had a locally (county) operated health care system that might have had its faults, but it was at least a reliable place to find indigent health care for those who needed it. Then a few years back, Universal Health Care Services convinced the local voters that they would all save money (lower property taxes) by selling the system to them. After a few months of campaigning, the deed was done.
Within 3 years, Universal succeeded in completely eliminating *all* indigent health care locally. And by the way, during that same 3 years, property taxes stayed the same for 2 of them and increased slightly one of them.
The "for profit" entities are not concerned about anything *but* that profit. They might be *able* to do a better job but generally they just do a better job of weeding out the poor. - Reply to this comment
