Comments on: Obama: I Am A Champion For Gay Americans

[gkgmd]

How many courts upheld segregation of Blacks? How many courts upheld that women had no inalienable right to vote?

The courts were wrong. Bigotry is alive an well for now...

But we all see where the tides are taking us. You betcha. The GLBT united and had an agenda. And it will free America of bigotry.

In 10 years the position that these fireman can choose not to participate in a gay pride event if the city so chooses will be considered absurd.

Weren't the social conservatives, like yourselves, upholding have blacks in separate bathrooms and using separate water fountains? It hasn't been 50 years since that was considered rational. Now look. People would indeed be considered not quite right if they suggested something like that today.

The world has changed. We will marry. Men will have children with men. Women will have children with women. Your way of life is disappearing.

It brings my heart joy to see the frustration it is causing those who are bigoted. Bigotry is always the last to know and the least insightful.

Next?

[pepperwood2]

The Real Truth Behind The San Diego Gay Pride Parade - California Jury Sides with Conscientious Firefighters

A jury in San Diego has decided local firefighters have the right to refuse to participate in the city's "gay pride" parade.

The Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) sued on the firefighters' behalf after the San Diego Fire Department forced them to participate in the parade and retaliated against them for complaining about the harassment they endured during the event. After the lawsuit, the Fire Department changed its policy.

?Many people may mistakenly think the ?gay pride? parade is merely a ?fun? event,? said Joe Infranco, senior counsel for ADF. ?They never would have imagined the crude sexual harassment these firefighters were forced to endure.

"In truth, the goal of homosexual advocates is to undermine society?s long-held values. They continue to seek this, whether by demanding participation in ?gay pride? parades or by trampling the democratic process to redefine marriage.?

If I'm mistake please reply in the usual vicious dialog we have come to identify as Gay Pride and prove my point. So Sad!

[Yeah-Me]

I agree... The SF Fire Department shouldn't have forced those men to participate if they chose not to. I believe that ruling was quite just.

When it comes to the SF Pride parade/spectacle, as a gay person, I'm not quite in agreement with that. And... I don't think what happens during it really does represent the gay community. In truth, to me, it just seems more like a glorified Marti Gras event.

[gkgmd]

Yes, indeed this is the homosexual agenda; to undermine current societal values. And yes, like other groups disenfranchised from basic rights because of being in a separate group, this should not be considered something to be voted on. Inalienable rights are not voted upon.

You would think it reasonable if the gay population swelled to a majority that it would be acceptable to deny heterosexuals marriage? This isn't a numbers game. This is about inalienable rights.

[hungry1968-15]

by gkgmd June 30, 2009 5:59 PM PDT
And...I must say...I am thankfully not Christian... So therefore I am allowed to take great pleasure in seeing the anger and fire in the eyes of bigoted America as they lose this battle. It makes my heart laugh joyfully with contentment. :)






You and me both.

[gkgmd]

Of course polygamy should not be illegal. This is government respecting one religion over another. Why should any of us assume we have the right to stand in the way of two consenting adults contractual relationship??

[gkgmd]

Let's take a vote. Who are the weakest, feeblest, deserving pity in our Country? Those with paraplegia confined to wheelchairs... (think Steven Hawkins) or those who are bigoted? (think KKK and neo-Nazi's).

My vote is those who suffer the maligancy of bigotry. They bring shame to all humanity.

[gkgmd]

And...I must say...I am thankfully not Christian... So therefore I am allowed to take great pleasure in seeing the anger and fire in the eyes of bigoted America as they lose this battle. It makes my heart laugh joyfully with contentment. :)

[CLoverNYC1]

by gkgmd June 30, 2009 5:59 PM PDT
And...I must say...I am thankfully not Christian... __________________________


I'm glad you're not speaking for Christians, too. Phew. What a relief.

Do not be deceived. This battle under this President may have been lost for now, but the WAR is far from over.

[gkgmd]

Because we are intelligent, wealthy, and have family and friends.

[gkgmd]

We continue as an immoral nation because our country's government continues to support the "Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy."

Truman did not say "Oh it will be disruptive and make the soldiers uncomfortable to share quarters with blacks. I want to be practical."

Truman showed higher character in going against the public and doing the right thing; he was Presidential, unlike our current President.

June 26, 1948, Truman signs Executive Order 9981, which states, "It is hereby declared to be the policy of the President that there shall be equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons in the armed services without regard to race, color, religion, or national origin." The order also creates the President's Committee on Equality of Treatment and opportunity in the Armed Services.

Anyone who considers homosexuality should review the historical record. The founder of Christian Protestantism, Martin Luther, advocated burning Jews homes and not hiring them because they were blasphemers.

The Southern Baptist Conventions origin, from my reading and understanding, was formed primarily because it supported slavery, unlike the rest of the Baptists in the Country.

"I've seen the mountaintop."

[hungry1968-15]

by CLoverNYC1 June 30, 2009 3:02 PM PDT
by black_howler June 30, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
Gays are being beaten, shot at, sent to the hospital, killed.
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*yawning at the cut and paste propaganda*

You're correct that homosexuals are a minority in this country.

Statistically, the homosexual population is a little more than 1%.

Why President Obama is kowtowing to pressure from this minority is the mystery.







You call yourself a christian?!?!

[gkgmd]

Because we are intelligent, wealthy, and have family and friends.

[hungry1968-15]

by CLoverNYC1 June 30, 2009 2:48 PM PDT
Hungry1968,

I know what... go alone into an all-black church in Harlem and tell them how you 'really' feel about their history of slavery, their struggle in this country against discrimination, and how the homosexual agenda in America is the same according to you.

Tell that to the people whose grandparents were lynched, castrated, hosed, executed, homes burned to the ground, called 'n---r', considered chattel, their wives and daughters raped, their land taken away from them because blacks weren't considered equal to whites in this country.

I dare you.







I wouldn't hesitate for a MINUTE to tell ANY black (and I have) that their struggle from the 1960's, is EQUIVALENT to the struggle that the gays face today. You know what the main difference is? Today you consider the struggle that the blacks face to be "bad", yet if you were around back in the 1960's, you'd be manning the hose yourself, and turning the German Shepards loose in the crowd. Your attitude is the EXACT same as those racist scumm from the deep south.



By the way, what you described sounds like what Israel does to the Palestinians, EVERYDAY - TO THIS DAY.

Will you NOW renounce and denounce Israel for their atrocities?

[CLoverNYC1]

riiiiight, Hungry. Keep telling yourself that. Eventually it will start to make sense.