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- by guruknows June 19, 2009 9:41 AM PDT
WHAT EXACTLY AND HOW, THE GAY PEOPLE DO?
Can somebody please explain me in details.
Thank you.
If you can't ask a coherent question, no one wil answer. - Reply to this comment
- This is an outrage. An outrage I tell you. We are not going to take it anymore. Instead of voting for the Democrats, we are going to vote for...We are going to vote for...Give me a minute to think...We are going to vote for...Oh, never mind.
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- yup - another far left liberal wants to exhort moderates to drink the koolaid for four years.
How's that hope and change workin' out for ya'll ? - Reply to this comment
- I think you gay folks should form your own political party and run your candidates for office at the local, state and national level. This would allow you to spend your resources on your own party.
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- "Angry Gay Democrat"
Redundant! - Reply to this comment
- Well, someone finally awoke to the fact that the party of freedom is NOT the democrat fascist cheap scum thief-traitor pig party!
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- i'm starting to like this obama guy
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- Well, Obama has on several occasions declared himself a Christian. I'm not sure exactly what they expected. You would think the Gay community would have placed the "Religious Bigot & Hatemonger" title on Obama already with his statement that he doesn't support gay marriage. Obama will throw the them a few bones here & there, but the holy grails of what the gay community are pushing for will continue to remain out of reach.
To quote Walt
Hail Obama??? - Reply to this comment
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- I believe it is possible to be a Christian and gay. Wasn't there a flap about ordaining an openly gay Episcopal bishop not too long ago; sometime around 2003? I remember the Archbishop of Nigeria attempted a split from the mainstream church in protest.
In any case, even if the "O" man's Christian theology forces him to disavow gays it should make no difference in his approach to such issues as gay marriage.
If he is striving for the vision of full justice and equality he says he is, then one of the most sensible things he can do to start that journey is order the Defense of Marriage Act null and void.
- I believe it is possible to be a Christian and gay. Wasn't there a flap about ordaining an openly gay Episcopal bishop not too long ago; sometime around 2003? I remember the Archbishop of Nigeria attempted a split from the mainstream church in protest.
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I am sorry, but you should re-read the bible again, especially in deuteronomy and matthew.
- I believe it is possible to be a Christian and gay. Wasn't there a flap about ordaining an openly gay Episcopal bishop not too long ago; sometime around 2003? I remember the Archbishop of Nigeria attempted a split from the mainstream church in protest.
- Would it be a "whiny issue" of rights--if it was YOUR rights that were being denied? To you, it is only a whiny issue--because it is not YOUR personal issue. Obama indicated a lot of promises--for whatever his motives, when he responds counterproductive to what he promised or implied, others have the right to see him as a Judas or whatever. It shows that once in power--promises are not kept and groups courted are forgotten. He had no business coming out in favor of DOMA--or if he felt that way all along, then he had no business courting the gay rights coalitions falsely when really he was against them.
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- If the Dems truly wish to embrace the ideas of tolerance, equality and civil rights and do it not just to win the votes of so many..it is time for more organizations to pull out that are not gay or lesbian affiliated.
There is absolutely no reason for any government for and by the people to EVER allow one set of rules for any group of American citizens and another set for a different group.
If there is truly separation of Church and State as required by Law and the Constitution, then no one in government or any where else has the right to impose church ideas about marriage on government rules and regulations.
The fact is, churches can believe what they want to believe and behave accordingly--states, and the US government cannot.
If unions between consenting men and women are recognized and supported by tax breaks, incentives, etc--then unions by consenting men and women should be recognized--regardless if the men and women are consenting to marriage to the opposite sex or to each other.
As for what the bible says--that is always a matter between a person and their faith--not a matter for a government or a society to meddle in or take sides in or champion.
From the Iraq war to the ME situation to abortion and gay rights--America is falling apart and the world is suffering--this comes from meddling and taking sides in issues where there should be no sides for a government to take.
I'm not gay nor do I have anyone who we know to be gay in our immediate family--but that does not stop me from supporting their rights to live and have and be treated the very same under our laws as any other US citizen.
When we say "Equal rights, regardless of race, creed, color or gender" we fail it immediately, when we discriminate on the issue of marriage. If all are equal, then why are gays not allowed to be married and to have that marriage recognized? It makes NO sense. - Reply to this comment
- Have you seen what's going in in Anchorage, Alaska: http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/06/shannyn-moore-status-of-lgbt-rights-in-anchorage-.html
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- I want to believe the Pres Obama has a short term stragey when it comes to delivering on gay rights. I think we are anxious because we have been dissappointed before. We MUST NOT fall apart now, Pres Obama has only been in office a very short time. We need to believe in him. Let's judge him at the end of 4 years.
joe - Reply to this comment
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- yup - another far left liberal wants to exhort moderates to drink the koolaid for four years.
How's that hope and change workin' out for ya'll ?
- yup - another far left liberal wants to exhort moderates to drink the koolaid for four years.
How's that hope and change workin' out for ya'll ?
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Funny you should judge because as I remember the last administration had 8 years to get it together.... tell me again how well did that work out for America?
- yup - another far left liberal wants to exhort moderates to drink the koolaid for four years.
- This proves that gays are slightly off in the head.
The president has been office 6 months. Only 6 months! Do you think he doesn't have important issues to deal with? You think you should be at the top? You are nuts! Watch the news people. We have real problems going on. I would prefer that the president deal with the Dangerous issues going on, not your whinny issue of more rights! Also to give you equal rights is not as easy as a stroke of the pen.
You are selfish if you think he was voted in just for you! Shame on you! - Reply to this comment
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- Would it be a "whiny issue" of rights--if it was YOUR rights that were being denied? To you, it is only a whiny issue--because it is not YOUR personal issue. Obama indicated a lot of promises--for whatever his motives, when he responds counterproductive to what he promised or implied, others have the right to see him as a Judas or whatever. It shows that once in power--promises are not kept and groups courted are forgotten. He had no business coming out in favor of DOMA--or if he felt that way all along, then he had no business courting the gay rights coalitions falsely when really he was against them.
- Oh yes it is selfish to think that in 6 month he should have done nothing but cater to gay right. It seems he has made steps, but gays what the whole hog right now. It is not something that will ever happen over night if at all. Again take a look aroung what is going on in the world
- Slightly off in the head? Nuts?
Oh silly us! We had the audacity to hope that a presidential candidate might actually keep his word. During the campaign, Obama promised to repeal DADT and DOMA.
If he had truly tabled those ideas to work on the "important issues," "the Dangerous issues going on," that you seem to be so concerned about - I would be OK with that - but he has gone much further and reversed his position.
When you say one thing and do another, most people consider that lying and we have a right to be upset about the fact that we were lied to.
Equal rights may not be "as easy as a stroke of the pen," but why are you so willing to table them? to dismiss them as "whinny" (your spelling)?
Shame on you!
- Equality for ALL Americans is an important issue. Discrimination against gay people occur every single day. Like it or not, this affects all of us.
- rj roman - yes it is nuts to think that within 6 months everything can be done. Again we have move important things going on in the world right now. I prefer a president to worry about wars & such.
- No one is asking Obama to move mountains to advance the rights of gay people. However, his administration has repeatedly allowed anti-gay views to predominate. The gay community is calling him to task over this, and there is nothing nuts about this. It is called POLITICS. You would do the same if it were an issue that affected you.
- Mister, you seem to be missing the point!
The President has a staff. He and his staff handle dozens, if not hundreds of issues---everyday! While it may not be the most IMMEDIATE issue to be dealt with; clearly, it is one that CAN and SHOULD be!
Additionally, Mr. Obama made a campaign promise to support and work for the establishment of gay rights under his administration! Having done that, he has a responsibility to keep his word or specifically state why he has gone back on his word!
Finally, calling people names and insulting them, only says more about YOUR INSTABILITY, than their's! Put a little love in your heart!
- We need to support marriage equality in Maine by sending our money to equalitymaine.org. Religious zealots hate us, and are angrily conspiring against our liberties by gathering signatures to put our right to marry up for a popular vote. This act is driven by pure hate, espoused by their religion!
We must not let the vote away our right to marry anywhere! I live in San Francisco, and whole-heartedly support marriage equality in Maine, but we must fight to protect it.
Religious hate is a very powerful weapon, and it is being exercised in full force. Rise up against religious zealots, NOW! - Reply to this comment
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- Have you seen what's going in in Anchorage, Alaska: http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/06/shannyn-moore-status-of-lgbt-rights-in-anchorage-.html
- I don't understand how you can expect people (all people it seems) to support you when you think that you are all that matters. You loose any credibility when you blast someone who is different from you. That is what you claim they do to you!!! Don't you get it. If you want the same rights as anybody else, then you need to be more tolerant of what other people "feel" as well. It's ok for you to protest that you don't get what you want but cannot tolerate somebody protesting against you.
- In Maine it has nothing to do with religious hate.......and that is just another excuse the gays are using because they may be defeated by what Mainers really want and believe in. Gays are not looking for EQUAL rights they are looking for SPECIAL rights. They are looking to RE-DEFINE marriage as to corrupt the minds of the children of the state of Maine as well as around the country......and why are gays in Maine seeking special liberties? Are not the liberties that other Mainers have good enough for Gays as well?.....Oh ya SPECIAL Liberties.....
