Comments on: Angry Gay Democrats Pull Support For DNC

[misands]

They are 4% of the last election and with many races being close (let's not forget Bush V. Gore), that could ruin quite a few races for Dems.

[gravyboat3000]

by NY-Joe-10 June 19, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
The group said is "incredibly disappointed" in the party for a variety of reasons, including a perceived lack of support.

What happened Libs ? you are losing the extreme gay support ?

Talk about extremists....this is what the Democrat party is comprised of, radical activists and socialist/Marxists.

--- Vote Republican for decency and fiscal responsibility ----
=== vote Democrat if you like more deviancy and depravity ----

"fiscal responsibility"?
lmao, Nice fiscal responsibity in Iraq. How much money did Haliburton,"lose"?

And GW started the bailouts before he left office joe.

You and Baggy with your,"depravity", comments are on a HOLY ROLL!

Keep the hits comin, you're both making my day!

[NY-Joe-10]

How much did a government contractor lose ? in your mind, government contractor = republicans
So what that Bush started Bailouts, he was a liberal republican, exactly what we are trying to get rid of in our party, to get to a more conservative platform of fiscal responsibility.

Depravity....Yes, that's what Democrats support....it's the foundation of Liberalism

[NY-Joe-10]

The group said is "incredibly disappointed" in the party for a variety of reasons, including a perceived lack of support.

What happened Libs ? you are losing the extreme gay support ?

Talk about extremists....this is what the Democrat party is comprised of, radical activists and socialist/Marxists.

--- Vote Republican for decency and fiscal responsibility ----
=== vote Democrat if you like more deviancy and depravity ----

[servantRdw]

Where are the laws to put these people who are an abomination before God and man in jail?. What happened to them? Did they go by the wayside like, yes "ma'am'?

[gravyboat3000]

by thusspokezara June 19, 2009 12:22 PM PDT
Oh Pleeeaaase. Who are they gonna vote for? They have NO CHOICE but to continue to vote Democratic. Keep dreaming.
by jankebenzone June 19, 2009 12:31 PM PDT
In actuality the more the demo's refuse to play ball with the gay's demands the more votes they will garner from those who don,t support and even oppose homosexuality. That group of voters is far larger and is of more intrest to any party.
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And what,"other", party endorses gay agenda items?

[kobbleur]

Ya, that's a real scream "zara" - people should hope over to the "1 in 4 S. Africans rape" story and look what you wrote. Having a 2 party system is not something to be proud of; its pathetic, undemocratic and BACKWARD.

[jankebenzone]

In actuality the more the demo's refuse to play ball with the gay's demands the more votes they will garner from those who don,t support and even oppose homosexuality. That group of voters is far larger and is of more intrest to any party.

[kobbleur]

IrishWench your mean and angry tone explains 2 things - that you were raised Catholic and the reason why you are divorced. HATER.

[toldyouso29]

"I think I will also add, that I'm sick and tired of many people and their "oh poor pitiful me" attitude. Frankly as a white single/divorced woman with children, I seem to have less options, special circumstances and access to benefits and healthcare, scholarships, grants, funding, start-up or seed money, special consideration, social services.... the list is very long of what I'm not entitled to and very short to miniscule of what I am entitled or have access to."

so you really are complaining about all other whiners because they draw attention and space away from your own personal whining?. When you have to preface your remarks by describing either agenda, affiliation, gender, race, marital status, religion or any other personal information--it is no longer about the objectivity of the article--it has become--in a very, very sad way--all about you, and why you have more of a right to be upset than those 'other groups'--add yourself to the list of people that you despise.

[rj_roman]

Slightly off in the head? Nuts?

Oh silly us! We had the audacity to hope that a presidential candidate might actually keep his word. During the campaign, Obama promised to repeal DADT and DOMA.

If he had truly tabled those ideas to work on the "important issues," "the Dangerous issues going on," that you seem to be so concerned about - I would be OK with that - but he has gone much further and reversed his position.

When you say one thing and do another, most people consider that lying and we have a right to be upset about the fact that we were lied to.

Equal rights may not be "as easy as a stroke of the pen," but why are you so willing to table them? to dismiss them as "whinny" (your spelling)?

Shame on you!

[newz4me]

Christians do not hate homosexuals? Which church you hanging out in, honey?

[blog_fever2]

Correct. Christians do not hate homosexuals, they just disagree with that lifestyle because it is in direct defiance with Christian morals. I want to point out that has only become a big issue because homosexuals have made such a stir, but in my opinion, true Christians should also disagree with divorce for any other reason other than infidelity. Please do not take difference of opinion as auto-hate.

[dartplayer501]

blog "true Christians should also disagree with divorce for any other reason other than infidelity."

But they're so good at the infidelity part, divorce is still over 40% of all marriages.

[thusspokezara]

Oh Pleeeaaase. Who are they gonna vote for? They have NO CHOICE but to continue to vote Democratic. Keep dreaming.

[specialty8]

Don't worry, next election Obama will pump you up again like he does all groups to get that vote. It will be another lie like the other 800 promises he made this time.

[toldyouso29]

Lie-ball. The most recent poll shows Obama at 63% approval and the most recent polls on the electorate shows Dems at 40%, and Republicans DOWN from 21% to 17%. No one in the Republican party who actually is working in the party are proclaiming their numbers as up and in fact, admit the numbers are in the toilet as far as avowed membership is going--only the far, right wing nutcases who drink the koolaide to get their "Rush" are proclaiming the stats you try to speak of. I am not impressed with Obama and have no love of Democrats--but really--most of us are tired of the eternal GOP LYING machine. Try giving it a rest before the only people left in the Republican party are all in jail for abortion and racial hate crimes.

[dartplayer501]

Well that's a truly educated comment. With idiots like you in the fore-front the "GOP" will be a long time in the wilderness.

[wilbursandersjr]

Christians do not hate homosexuals, but we cannot and will not endorse What God calls sinful lifestyles. A true Chrisitian should not endorse heterosexual sin either. Christ loved people enough to die for their sins, but He hated the sin enough to die to eliminate it. He did not simply ignore it and pretend it was o.k. The most loving thing a Christian can do is stand against sin as Christ commands in II Corinthians 10:3-5.

[thusspokezara]

It is true that the Democratic Party was the party of Thomas Jefferson (racist), John Calhoun (big racist), Jefferson Davis (big bad racist), Stephen Douglas (little racist), Mayor Daley (fat racist), FDR (closet racist), but it has changed.

[tautomer]

It's fascinating how the pro-Same Sex Marriage folks want desperately to portray any opposition to their cause as being "religious in nature" or "based in hatred". They never want to acknowledge that their opponents may have perfectly valid objections or that they just plain disagree.

It is this lack of respect for dissenting opinions and an annoying constant insistence on "getting their way" that hampers wider support for their cause.

One issue that surrounds same sex marriage is that most people feel that it is a prelude to further demands. This has certainly been the case with gays before. For example, once given the right to marry, most people figure they will use that to deamand adoption rights, then schoolboard representation, then impose curricula biased towards their cause etc etc. (This is just a theoretical set of goals, but you get the point).

Well, gays are 2% of the population. It's doubtful the DNC will miss them greatly.

[misands]

They are 4% of the last election and with many races being close (let's not forget Bush V. Gore), that could ruin quite a few races for Dems.

[danolgb]

Hate to burst your bubble (actually I don't) but in all but a handful of States adoption by Gays and Lesbians is perfectly legal. In fact, even in States with DOMAs, gays can adopt the children of their partners, many school boards already have LGBT members, so that is moot as well. As for curricula being biased, what is your definition of bias? There shouldn't be any bias either way, but inclusion of LGBT issues in curricula isn't biased any more than saying Catholics or Jews or Mormons exist in curricula or even studying what different religions believe which I'm perfectly okay with as long as it isn't proselytizing.

When you have a block of people imposing their religious beliefs on you through law, then come talk to me about lack of respect. Once same sex marriage is legal, we will all see that the sky hasn't fallen and everyone is still allowed to believe what they want. The Constitution already protects the rights of Churches to preach what they want. What it doesn't allow is any one particular religious belief to be the law over others.

[blog_fever2]

When you have a block of people imposing their religious beliefs on you through law, then come talk to me about lack of respect. Once same sex marriage is legal, we will all see that the sky hasn't fallen and everyone is still allowed to believe what they want. The Constitution already protects the rights of Churches to preach what they want. What it doesn't allow is any one particular religious belief to be the law over others by danolgb June 19, 2009 2:59 PM PDT
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What you forget this nation was built on the same Christian principles that you say are blocking your advancement. In 1892, the Supreme Court ruled the United States of America is a Christian nation, so the easiest thing I can advise if you do not agree with the Christian philosophy, please exit yourself to another destination that is catered more to your lifestyle. You are asking Christians to do the exact thing you are fighting against.... fight for what they believe is right.

[danolgb]

to blog_fever2, America may have been founded by Christians, but that doesn't give today's "Christians" a right to impose their "Christian" beliefs on others. First off, you need to be honest and look at the membership of the Founding Fathers. Except for a couple Catholics, the Founding Fathers belonged mostly to what would now be considered "Liberal" religions. In fact, most of those religions represented are quite accepting of gays and lesbians. Today's Evangelical, Pentecostal, and Mormon "christians" weren't even around at the time. One could argue that it was only by the grace of the original Founding Fathers ensuring religious freedom that these new religions could even form.

Freedom of religion includes freedom from religion. But, when you consider that there are religions of the Founding Fathers that want to solemnize same gender marriages and are being told by the State that they can't, just whose religious beliefs are truly being impinged?

Those going around and declaring their "christianity" while oppressing others lack a lot of understanding about just who Christ really was.

[newz4me]

Has Obama redefined which group the "N" word represents?

[misands]

This could very well haunt the Democratic Party in the coming elections. All of the Democrats that are telling the gays to get lost ought to remember that you need them to keep the party you want in power. If you consider the fact that 4% of voters in 2008 identified themselves as gay and 75% of them voted for the Democrats, that's roughly a 2 to 3 percent loss and in close elections (like so many are), that could be some real losses for the Dems. And that's just their votes. Their real power and influence comes from their deeper-than-most pocketbooks. They are generally DINKS (Double Income, No Kids), and it is estimated that gays give more than the blacks or Hispanics and are right up there with the trial lawyers and unions in the amount they give the Democratic party. That's a lot less money for commercials and other expenses. The Democratic Party is always behind the GOP in money and is now in further debt than the GOP.
You guys are going to find it a lot harder to win elections without the GLBT community. And where, do you ask, do we go? I say we focus on the Libertarian or Green parties. They really could use a good infusion of cash and voters to make them more visible and viable in future elections.