Comments on: Gun Rights Groups Plan State-By-State Revolt

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by gunownerdan June 16, 2009 10:09 AM PDT
The only purpose of gun registration is so the government will know where the guns are and who has them when the time comes to take them away. History proves many times that gun registration only leads to gun confiscation.


My, what a red herring. Please show us where registration has lead to gun confiscation, especially on a grand scale.

[gunownerdan]

Germany: Guns registered in 1928 and confiscated in 1938.
Russia: Guns registered in 1918 and confiscated in 1926.
China: Guns registered in 1914 and confiscated in 1935.
England: Guns registered in 1921 and confiscated in 1997.
ALso happened in Australia, New Zealand, and many other places.

[seataffer]

oregon wrote: I lost my son to suicide. He placed a .30-30 Winchester into his mouth and pulled the trigger.

.. with sympathy, you do not say how old your son was; gun restrictions of course generally won't work with mature gunowners intent on suicide, but waiting periods do have an affect on sudden thoughts of suicide amongst non gun owners, the cooling off period does prevent some suicide. Gun control efforts can only be effective marginally, marginally improving the rate of surviving suicide thoughts or attempts.
.. one mother on aol, who also lost a son, wrote that had the gun been safe or trigger locked or unloaded her son would've survived, since he was running up the stair, with her in pursuit, saying he was going to shoot himself, which he did, with a loaded gun in a dresser drawer.

oregon: Gun restrictions won't change a thing except to give the street dealers more products to sell on the black market.

.. this is demonstrably not so; even gun guru gary kleck concedes that gun control laws will have a partial beneficial effect, just that they are not a cure all.

[mattcat25]

I suspect that there is alot more going on with NRA/Republican types and their beloved Guns than just the right to overthrow the Government.

It seems that the exessively obessed and obscure infatuation with death mechanism devices begs the question of just what they do in their private lives with all them guns?

[seataffer]

NEWCO said "BTW how are those gun laws working for DC and Detroit..."

.. detroit (michigan) enabled shall issue concealed carry (siccw) about 2002, so detroit could now be considered pro gun (or at least neutralish, certainly not a sterling example of strict guncontrol).
.. newco should better ask himself, why hasn't the issuance of concealed carry permits reduced crime & murder significantly, in Detroit?
.. your vaunted concealed gun strategy is failing miserably, revealing the inevitable fallacy in your armed fantasy doctrine.

.. newco bolsters the contention - MORE GUNS, MORE LIES.

PS: DC does not have the death penalty, while the 2 surrounding states Md & Va do have the death penalty; this inflates DC's murder rate slightly, since victims can be either shot in Md or Va & brought into DC & dumped, or brought into DC from Md & Va & executed.
.. jurisdiction where crime committed should get the crime, but is often difficult to tell where crime was committed when victims are brought into DC.
.. DC is the only significant american city with this phenomenon, being surrounded by death penalty states. Chicago of course is within Illinois which has a moratorium on dp.
.. & schoolord is correct, guns can be readily smuggled into DC from either Md or Va where handguns can be readily bought.
.. rifles & shotguns are legal in DC, over 100,000 are kept legally by DC residents, a ratio of about 1 gun per 5.5 people (550,000 DC residents).

[dwilson59]

I think the state should make the laws this is a good thing

[OregonJames]

On suicide... I lost my son to suicide. He placed a .30-30 Winchester into his mouth and pulled the trigger. Was the Winchester at fault? No, it wasn't. If he did not have the rifle, would he have been successful in suicide? Nobody can say. Would gun registration or background checks in any way have impeded his actions? No, it would not. Would gun restrictions or confiscations saved him? No, it would not. There are copius laws agains drugs, but that doesn't prevent them from being sold or consumed. Gun restrictions won't change a thing except to give the street dealers more products to sell on the black market.

I should be outlawed. I failed to save my son. I failed to see the signs, the warnings, and the sadness that took his life. The Winchester was simply a tool. Suicides cannot be prevented by stupid gun laws.

I still have many guns. They feed me sometimes. They protect my family, my community, and even our freedom. You cannot take them away or restrict my ability to own them with laws I will not obey.

Until mankind evolves into peaceful trustworthy creatures we will always have criminals and suicides. The need for protection simply will not go away.

[gunownerdan]

The only purpose of gun registration is so the government will know where the guns are and who has them when the time comes to take them away. History proves many times that gun registration only leads to gun confiscation.

[saturn05]

I don't understand the mind-set of the NRA type gun nuts. Sorry, but that's how you come across to me. Why are you so scared with regulations about gun ownership. We have to register our cars; get auto insurance; can only get our driver's license at a certain age; we have an age limit on when you can drink or smoke; you have to register to vote, join the military and on and on and on. So why not have to register to own a deadly weappon. I certainly do not want to ban guns, although I don't understand why any citizen needs and uzi, but I am 100% behind gun registration and tighter restrictions at gun shows and background checks. You are naive to think that guns are any different than getting a background check for a job or checks on your credit history. I know that if this keeps going the way of the NRA nuts and you bring it to the state level, I will be first in line to protest and fight for more restrictions or guidelines for gun ownership. Again, not banning guns, just stricter rules.

[cs4466]

I see more panicked necons with pee running down their leg, all at the command of Rush Limbaugh who says their guns are being taken away. LOL and they have the nerve to call us cowards. Pathetic!

[gunownerdan]

No "tough gun laws" on earth are going to stop criminals from being criminals.