Comments on: Gun Rights Groups Plan State-By-State Revolt

[akia1]

personally I don't see why this is necessary except to force the issue in the courts.

I've NEVER seen a gunshop with the sales counter in 1 State and the customer floor in another State so ALL over the counter sales would be in intrastate commerce and the feds would be irrelevant as far as the retail purchase.

one thing is interesting... it was signed into law in Montana by a Democratic Party governor... much as the Mississippi concealed carry law was introduced by a Democratic Party legislator... in the South and in the West the G.O.P. doesn't hold a lock on Conservative Thought.

but a Mississippi Democrat is more conservative than a NY Republican!

[RegularGuy21]

1. Yes a Democrat signed the law, but still more Dems than Republicans want to disarm the American public. There are good and bad Democrats and good and bad Republicans.

2. Wrong! Legally, the Feds cannot regulate anything they want to. When our Republic was formed, we created a Constitution with the 10th specific powers LIMITING the Federal government and not LIMITING the states and the people.

3. Background checks and gun control is useless. Washington DC has one of the toughest anti gun areas in the country and has one of the highest murder rates in the country. Bad people will always find a way to get weapons. So don't limit access for good people.

4. We are against records because unlike you sir, we are excellent students of history. Hitler used gun-records to disarm the public. The British used gun records to disarm us before our war with them.

Bottom line, read the 2nd paragraph of the Declaration of Independence and try to understand Natural Law. Then you will have a good understanding of the doctrine on which our republic was founded.

[JimInHouston]

Shoollord: "Gundeaths" is not the important statistic. Total violent crime or even total homocide are the important statistics.

[JimInHouston]

I'm also waiting for these "facts" and citations!

[JimInHouston]

Sorry, dart-guy. Your lifetime odds of being a victim of violent crime are in the range of 50%. Enjoy the reading.

http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/104274.pdf

[Jayl76]

That is "Hoplophile". As one who loves guns, I am a hoplophile, while you, who are obviously frightened of them, are a hoplophobe.

[Jayl76]

Shooting people is against the law? Sometimes, but only sometimes. Other times it is not only legal, but morally justified, necessary, and even laudable. Every state recognizes the right to use deadly force to protect self, family and home. Many states also recognize the right to protect other innocent life and property as well.

[spedgenius]

actually that was directed at schoollord

[spedgenius]

@endurorob
how is 300,000 > 800,000? By the data you supplied:

japan 30,000/300,000 = 10% success rate
U.S. 34,000/800,000 = 4% success rate

japan population = 127,700,000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Japan)
US population = 306,000,000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Demographics)

2349 attempted suicides for every 100,000 in Japan
2614 attempted suicides for every 100,000 in the US
(slightly higher in the US)

234 successful suicides per 100,000 people for Japan
111 per 100,000 people for the US
(a Japan is a little more than double the US)

maybe you should actually consider what the data actually shows before using it as an arguing point.

[jamesthree]

You still have not posted your sources! For example, citing the FBI UCR without refering to a year and a page number is useless. Citing a web site without providing a direct link to the inforamtion is also worthless. Either give a specific link or a proper footnote.

Your assertion about "PRO GUN states" sounds strangely famliar to a now debunked "Brsdy Bunch" study that circulated a few months back. The so-called study failed to take into how large cities disproportionally skew a States overall crime statistics. These cities have usually been under the exclusive control of Democratic Mayors for decades. St. Louis is a perfect example. Just use Google and find the list of Mayors for a particular city. So is a comparison of a "PRO GUN states" fair or should "ANTI-GUN" large cities be considered? The differing laws for each particular jurisdiction should be compared and not simply by State lines.

For a list of Mayors of St. Louis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_St._Louis