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by armyoftwelve June 15, 2009 9:59 PM EDT
Why is this even news?? CBS keeps rehashing the same headline over and over...

Nothing NEW has happened.
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by matoosaferre June 15, 2009 9:52 PM EDT
Change only idiots could believe in. You got it. Now live with it!
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by spiritwalk June 15, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
No one is surprised by a politican not keeping campaign promises.

I believe, however, that Obama is waiting to get personally involved for his second term. Just a guess.

by slownewsday_05 June 15, 2009 3:52 PM PDT

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Both Obama and his wife said very clearly during the campaign that they believed in marriage being between a man and a woman. He never made any direct statements that showed support for the gay community.

As with many issues during the campaign people ASSUMED that Obama would take the exact opposite position of the Bush administration and follow a liberal agenda on everything. In essence, in the euphoria of the campaign, no matter what he said everyone heard what they wanted to.

When the Obama s went on TV, in a family interview and talked about their belief in traditional family values and people came away thinking he would support gay rights more than a man with a gay daughter would not, then those people deluded themselves.

He has lived up to his what said, he just hasn?t lived up to you thought he said.
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by TrickynWV June 15, 2009 9:11 PM EDT
Shame on you Mr. President. You of ALL PEOPLE should know what hatred and bigotry is all about. American has a huge percentage of gay people, and another huge percentage of straight people who support gays and understand our brain orientation. Barack Obama, I promise you that if you don't take a stand to give gays the equal rights they deserve, you will go down in history as America's worst president, second to Mr. Hypocrite GW Bush and third to Mr. Hate himself, Bill Clinton.
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by billpl-2009 June 15, 2009 9:08 PM EDT
He said from day one he didn't support gay marriage

What's the big surprise?
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by sioux4life1 June 15, 2009 8:50 PM EDT
Ok, this is enough. Gay rights has definately turned definately sour in my opinion. We have here in New Hampshire passed a bill allowing gay marrage and I supported it. NOW you people done tick alot of us off. ANGERY? There happens to be much more civil, human immigration and so forth rights to be address than your sorry ***** right how so CHILL!
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by debinok1 June 15, 2009 8:44 PM EDT
Well I am off to watch Ice Princess, love that movie. See ya all later.
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by debinok1 June 15, 2009 8:41 PM EDT
I don't know gravy, this isn't so bad. Much easier to keep up with who replies to what now.
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by IThoughtItWasFunnyAgin June 15, 2009 8:40 PM EDT
Helppppppppppppppp, I'm lost in the beta, where is eveyrone?

LMAO!!!!
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by gravyboat3000 June 15, 2009 8:39 PM EDT
New format bad, must leave this place.
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by debinok1 June 15, 2009 8:41 PM EDT
I don't know gravy, this isn't so bad. Much easier to keep up with who replies to what now.
by debinok1 June 15, 2009 8:37 PM EDT
by IThoughtItWasFunnyAgin June 15, 2009 5:36 PM PDT
Good grief, did everybody get the CBS beta????

Yeah, this is way different.
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by IThoughtItWasFunnyAgin June 15, 2009 8:36 PM EDT
Good grief, did everybody get the CBS beta????
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by tautomer June 15, 2009 8:34 PM EDT
Libertarians believe all should be treated equally. Marriage for some and "pseudo marriage" for others is blatantly wrong. Posted by DefendLiberty
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Uh let's see. Your Libertarian candidate, Bob Barr raised a paltry 1.5 million dollars, so either there are few libertarians or you don't put your money where your mouth is. For that he trailed Ralph Nader!!! LMAO...Ralph Nader the guy who aargued against compact cars in his book "Unsafe at Any Speed"!!!

It doesn't really seem like anyone gives a hoot about the Libertarians.

By the way everyone is treated equally when it comes to marriage. A gay and a straight are eligible to marry precisely the same subset of the population. So what's your beef? You don't want to marry or "pseudo-marry your sister do you?
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by count_slapula June 15, 2009 8:34 PM EDT
For the government to step in and FORCE recognition of gay "marriages" on any church OR FORCE recognition of that "marriage" on a state violates the very basic deliverance of our freedoms.

People better think twice before they spit on the constitution. States rights is what started the Civil War and I really don't think the south would come in second the second time around. "
Posted by phwtb
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You know nothing about the Bill of Rights. Go trim your mullet.
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by debinok1 June 15, 2009 8:34 PM EDT
We are headed in that direction and according to my Bible, and my book of Revelations, we are already there. If the vote goes in the predicted manner, our 7 years starts in January...
Posted by phwtb

That I am not sure of. I know we are close. But there are still things that have to happen. I am watching. I am listening. That is all I can do, stay ready and pray. So far the one thing I don't see is peace in the middle east. That is a big issue that has to come soon.
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by IThoughtItWasFunnyAgin June 15, 2009 8:34 PM EDT
Well, I am not in general the conspiracy type, but I have always since childhood wondered about the following quote:

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." -- Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter,1952

What's your take on that?
Posted by slownewsday_05 at 5:24 PM : Jun 15, 2009

I haven't read up on Justice Frankfurter (lol) sorry the name hit a tickle bone...

Or the reason he said what he said...

But yes as a general statement I'll accept it...

So who are they?
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by phwtb June 15, 2009 8:30 PM EDT
We no longer have that right. We no longer have a lot of rights. This country has sold its soul to be PC. Even when PC is Biblically wrong. If you know your Bible, you know where we are headed. All we can do is pray and stay ready.
Posted by debinok1 at 5:26 PM : Jun 15, 2009

Even MORE true! Our freedoms have been so twisted and turned, bowing to this group and that group, that we have NO MORE FREEDOMS at all!!

We are headed in that direction and according to my Bible, and my book of Revelations, we are already there. If the vote goes in the predicted manner, our 7 years starts in January...
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by debinok1 June 15, 2009 8:30 PM EDT
Who is forcing gay marriage on churches?

lmao

Either I missed somethin, or this guy/gal is lost.

Evenin Slow, Rowdy. Nice to see you two having a conversation!

I'll lay low, and read...
Posted by gravyboat3000

You don't think that will happen? You don't think if the government steps in and forces states to allow G/L marriages that it wont eventually force it on the churches as well? I think that is a highly probable outcome myself.
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by gravyboat3000 June 15, 2009 8:28 PM EDT
Oh, one other thing-

Bill of Rights
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

For the government to step in and FORCE recognition of gay "marriages" on any church OR FORCE recognition of that "marriage" on a state violates the very basic deliverance of our freedoms.

People better think twice before they spit on the constitution. States rights is what started the Civil War and I really don't think the south would come in second the second time around.
Posted by phwtb

Who is forcing gay marriage on churches?

lmao

Either I missed somethin, or this guy/gal is lost.

Evenin Slow, Rowdy. Nice to see you two having a conversation!

I'll lay low, and read...
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by debinok1 June 15, 2009 8:26 PM EDT
For the government to step in and FORCE recognition of gay "marriages" on any church OR FORCE recognition of that "marriage" on a state violates the very basic deliverance of our freedoms.

People better think twice before they spit on the constitution. States rights is what started the Civil War and I really don't think the south would come in second the second time around.
Posted by phwtb

We no longer have that right. We no longer have a lot of rights. This country has sold its soul to be PC. Even when PC is Biblically wrong. If you know your Bible, you know where we are headed. All we can do is pray and stay ready.
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