Comments on: Donald Rumsfeld's Holy War

[DaVicar5]

I'm saying that the rituals you cite have no Constitutional basis. -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt



Neither does a Federally Mandated 65-MPH speed limit.
Would you care to make a point about the way in which OUR U.S. Government conducts itsself TODAY ? ? ?

[DaVicar5]

Our first congresses refused to observe a Christmas holiday because it was viewed as a Catholic holiday.
Posted by actornaught



Thank You!
(I knew I was right)

[formrusmcsgt]

So you're saying that our Government conducts itsself contrary to the Constitution?
Posted by DaVicar5 at 12:09 PM : May 18, 2009

No.

I'm saying that the rituals you cite have no Constitutional basis.

[actornaught]

Our first congresses refused to observe a Christmas holiday because it was viewed as a Catholic holiday.

[DaVicar5]

All rituals which have no foundation in the Constitution.
Posted by formrusmcsgt


So you're saying that our Government conducts itsself contrary to the Constitution?

[formrusmcsgt]

That kind of Secular?
Posted by DaVicar5 at 12:03 PM : May 18, 2009


All rituals which have no foundation in the Constitution.

[ubrew12]

jrc007 said: "Neither tortured bodies nor tortured logic could produce the retroactive justification these vile men sought for their vile crimes. "

Well put.

Whats really scary about these image and scripture is that Rumsfeld isn't particularly religious, i.e. he was tailoring his reports for his audience (Bush). That's just freaky, reminds me of Cardinal Richelieu: pious as he needed to be to dupe the people around him and keep power to himself. Rumsfeld took a page right out of Machiavelli here. Scary stuff.

[DaVicar5]

Our government was set up to be secular.
Period. -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt



Is that why they write "In God We Trust" on the money they coin? Is that why they won't deliver a letter on the Sabboth?
Is that why they don't hold Congress in Session on Christmas?
Is that why, when they DO hold session, they open it with a prayer, and close with a Bendiction?
Is that why the Presidents are sworn in with a Bible?

That kind of Secular?

[formrusmcsgt]

IF you would send one my way every so often, you might be able to prove that - - but that hasn't quite been the case today now, has it?
Posted by DaVicar5 at 11:58 AM : May 18, 2009

You can't even recall 5 minutes ago, apparently:

With not a SINGLE mention of "God" in the entire Constitution....... -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt

Meanie!
Posted by DaVicar5 at 11:55 AM : May 18, 2009

[DaVicar5]

I did not say God. I said "men of faith." The very first Amendment says that people have the Right of Free Expression of their Religion. This certainly includes elected leaders. They have just as many Rights as the rest of us. -------------------------- Posted by jonesjep



Don't tangle with Sarge, Jonsie . . he's a grumpy meanie, with a serious aversion to facts!