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- I'm saying that the rituals you cite have no Constitutional basis. -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt
Neither does a Federally Mandated 65-MPH speed limit.
Would you care to make a point about the way in which OUR U.S. Government conducts itsself TODAY ? ? ? - Reply to this comment
- Our first congresses refused to observe a Christmas holiday because it was viewed as a Catholic holiday.
Posted by actornaught
Thank You!
(I knew I was right) - Reply to this comment
- So you're saying that our Government conducts itsself contrary to the Constitution?
Posted by DaVicar5 at 12:09 PM : May 18, 2009
No.
I'm saying that the rituals you cite have no Constitutional basis. - Reply to this comment
- Our first congresses refused to observe a Christmas holiday because it was viewed as a Catholic holiday.
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- All rituals which have no foundation in the Constitution.
Posted by formrusmcsgt
So you're saying that our Government conducts itsself contrary to the Constitution? - Reply to this comment
- That kind of Secular?
Posted by DaVicar5 at 12:03 PM : May 18, 2009
All rituals which have no foundation in the Constitution. - Reply to this comment
- jrc007 said: "Neither tortured bodies nor tortured logic could produce the retroactive justification these vile men sought for their vile crimes. "
Well put.
Whats really scary about these image and scripture is that Rumsfeld isn't particularly religious, i.e. he was tailoring his reports for his audience (Bush). That's just freaky, reminds me of Cardinal Richelieu: pious as he needed to be to dupe the people around him and keep power to himself. Rumsfeld took a page right out of Machiavelli here. Scary stuff. - Reply to this comment
- Our government was set up to be secular.
Period. -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt
Is that why they write "In God We Trust" on the money they coin? Is that why they won't deliver a letter on the Sabboth?
Is that why they don't hold Congress in Session on Christmas?
Is that why, when they DO hold session, they open it with a prayer, and close with a Bendiction?
Is that why the Presidents are sworn in with a Bible?
That kind of Secular? - Reply to this comment
- IF you would send one my way every so often, you might be able to prove that - - but that hasn't quite been the case today now, has it?
Posted by DaVicar5 at 11:58 AM : May 18, 2009
You can't even recall 5 minutes ago, apparently:
With not a SINGLE mention of "God" in the entire Constitution....... -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt
Meanie!
Posted by DaVicar5 at 11:55 AM : May 18, 2009 - Reply to this comment
- I did not say God. I said "men of faith." The very first Amendment says that people have the Right of Free Expression of their Religion. This certainly includes elected leaders. They have just as many Rights as the rest of us. -------------------------- Posted by jonesjep
Don't tangle with Sarge, Jonsie . . he's a grumpy meanie, with a serious aversion to facts! - Reply to this comment
- IF you would send one my way every so often, you might be able to prove that - - but that hasn't quite been the case today now, has it?
Posted by DaVicar5 at 11:58 AM : May 18, 2009
THIS from a twit who thinks atheists "know" that God "loves" them?
Looney tunes........ - Reply to this comment
- I did not say God. I said "men of faith." The very first Amendment says that people have the Right of Free Expression of their Religion. This certainly includes elected leaders. They have just as many Rights as the rest of us.
Posted by jonesjep at 11:57 AM : May 18, 2009
Which changes not the fact that there is a not a single mention of "God" in the Constitution.
Our government was set up to be secular.
Period. - Reply to this comment
- You have an aversion to facts and shoot the messenger who delivers them...... -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt
I have an aversion to facts?
IF you would send one my way every so often, you might be able to prove that - - but that hasn't quite been the case today now, has it? - Reply to this comment
- "With not a SINGLE mention of "God" in the entire Constitution....... "
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I did not say God. I said "men of faith." The very first Amendment says that people have the Right of Free Expression of their Religion. This certainly includes elected leaders. They have just as many Rights as the rest of us. - Reply to this comment
- Then my original assumption was correct - English is not a "native" tongue for you or you would understand the word "dogma". ------------------ Posted by formrusmcsgt
IF you weren't such a mean person, you might understand a touch of humor every now-and-then. - Reply to this comment
- With not a SINGLE mention of "God" in the entire Constitution....... -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt
Meanie!
Posted by DaVicar5 at 11:55 AM : May 18, 2009
I see.
You have an aversion to facts and shoot the messenger who delivers them...... - Reply to this comment
- With not a SINGLE mention of "God" in the entire Constitution....... -------------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt
Meanie! - Reply to this comment
- I speak Latin, my car speaks Grease, I can read Hebrew upside-down from a distance of 70 meters, I tought my Parrot to speak Dutch with a Russian accident, and I can write the Magna-Carter on the head of pin in Flemish, without coughing once!
Neener, neener, neener!
Posted by DaVicar5 at 11:52 AM : May 18, 2009
Then my original assumption was correct - English is not a "native" tongue for you or you would understand the word "dogma". - Reply to this comment
- I addition to English, I speak Japanese and Spanish as well and know more about my second and third languages than you do about your "one and only".
---------------------------------- Sad, eh? --------------- Posted by formrusmcsgt
Sad?
That's all you got?
I speak Latin, my car speaks Grease, I can read Hebrew upside-down from a distance of 70 meters, I tought my Parrot to speak Dutch with a Russian accident, and I can write the Magna-Carter on the head of pin in Flemish, without coughing once!
Neener, neener, neener! - Reply to this comment
- The use of sacred imagery and scripture to dupe the religious right and justify pointless carnage goes back to the Crusades, at least.
Iraq was pure, prefabricated "neo-conmen con-job." Dumbya and Darth controlled the intell. They told us want they wanted to, when they wanted to, lying to us when convenient . Their CIA apparently gave incomplete, erroneous or even NON-EXISTENT briefings to Congress - to the Dems, at least. Former Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) says the Agency never gave him three of the four briefings they claim they did, which the CIA now acknowledges.
A few Dems "bought in" out of genuine - if misplaced - belief. Some just didn't want to be on the "wrong" side for political reasons.
However, there was a HUGE and vocal contingent of liberal / progressive Dems and others who were leery of Bush, his Machiavellian puppeteer Cheney and the military-industrial complex's stooge, Rumsfeld. We did our best to speak out but were shouted down or ignored by the corporate media - CBS included.
Neither tortured bodies nor tortured logic could produce the retroactive justification these vile men sought for their vile crimes. - Reply to this comment
