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by THEILDJ April 27, 2009 12:58 PM EDT
McSame is a member of the slimewad Bushoccio Crime Family. Typical Republi CON, he doesn't care about the facts, the truth, or the rule of law.
Posted by noloyalist

Typical Democrat, you have nothing positive to say about anything. The republicans are NIOT Cons. Get it right Dem
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by noloyalisti April 27, 2009 12:55 PM EDT
McSame is a member of the slimewad Bushoccio Crime Family. Typical Republi CON, he doesn't care about the facts, the truth, or the rule of law.
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by THEILDJ April 27, 2009 12:44 PM EDT
..after all, holding people responsible for their actions could only be about serving vendettas. Yeah right, feeble minded old_fart.
Posted by mcthreeteeth

I bet on his worst day he would be able to out smart you on your best day. This coming from someone who moniker is making fun of McCain. Why not move to AZ, and run against McCain in 2010?
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by godswatchinu April 27, 2009 12:14 PM EDT
"SO Private Lyndie England should now receive her honorable discharge along with all her benefits, Colonel JANIS KURPINSKI who was demoted from Brigadier General because of Abu Gharib should be reinstated with all of her rights, privileges and respect! In fact, former Brigadier Janis Kurpinski testified that she was stripped of complete control over Abu Gharib by the CIA under orders designated by former president G.W. Bush.

So why are these two women along with a few others the scapegoat for policies directed under former president G.W. Bush???

I have no problem with putting this matter behind us and moving forward. JUST DO NOT LEAVE OUR MEN AND WOMEN CONVICTED, DEMOTED,AND PENALIZED FOR DOING THEIR JOBS as directed by the former COMMANDER IN CHIEF G.W. BUSH in the dust!

RESTORE PVT LYNDIE ENGLAND AND BRIGADIER GENERAL KURPINSKI'S RANK, HONORABLE DISCHARGE STATUS, RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES, and BENEFITS!"

Could not have said it better, Stillwater!

Pvt. Lyndie England and Gen. Kurpinski should be let go in light of the larger. overarching policy that came from the Bush administration.

If we are to, as Sen McCain said, "put this behind us" and "move forward" and unify as a country, then we should not let the least powerful (men and women in uniform) suffer while their bosses go without even a slap on the hand!!!
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by johndevinejr April 27, 2009 12:13 PM EDT
There are serious questions about whether or not individuals violated the laws prohibiting torture.

We should gather the evidence and it should be reviewed by the Attorney General or a Special Prosecutor. Patrick J. Fitzgerald has shown himself to be an honest prosecutor and would be a good choice.

The Prosecutor should determine what if any laws have been broken and what extenuating circumstances exist.

Then, on the basis of his analysis those who's cases warrant it should be brought to trial.

It is my understanding, that this is the procedure that is used in the United States of America when a crime has been committed.
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by PoeticJustice13 April 27, 2009 12:01 PM EDT
Mr. McCain and the republican party are in a "tailspin" because they cannot or will not admit to themselves the "transcendent evil" that is confronting the nation. Perhaps the pardon of Nixon by Ford was the right thing at the time. But, the case could be made now, that we have leaders, around during Nixon/Ford's time, who are skilled bureaucratic in-fighters who can game the system knowing we now have lost the constitutional skills needed for proper checks and balances. Mr. McCain is a good steward for the military, but not for the American people. Thank you John...I am now a Libertarian!
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by boatdocster April 27, 2009 11:23 AM EDT
This is two fold issue, and McCain is wrong on both parts.

First, the Executive Branch. McCain proposes we should just forget about this and sweep it under the carpet. Not so!!

If Congress and the People allow the Executive Branch to no longer abide by the rule of law, strictly under the guise the President is immune from doing so, then our Constitution becomes null and void, and America moves from Democracy to Fascist Dictatorship. WE CAN NOT ALLOW THIS!

The Constitution talks about LAWS, and our need to follow them, not being a Democrat and a Republican. When Congress thought Clinton had broken the law as President they had no problem spending many years and dollars investigating this. Congress needs to do it's duty again and investigate these serious allegations.

If Bush and Cheney are so sure that their "legal memo's" in fact gave them the right to authorize these acts, they have nothing to worry about. That's what they told the people over the 8 years - now THEY need to stand by that.

Second, if those memo's were in place, why were US Soldiers demoted and/or discharged, if they were following the orders of their superiors above them? If Bush, Rice, Rumfeld and Cheney authorized water boarding and beatings, sometimes to the point of the detainees death, why were lower ranking people punished?

Bush - the cowboy in black that shoots you in the back...
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by jsl45 April 27, 2009 10:38 AM EDT
Bush/Cheney - the worst administration in the history of the USA.
`1. No weapons of mass destructions
2. Over 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq
3. Over 32,000 Americans maimed and injured
4. Over 110,000 Iraqis dead since 2003
5. Failed Pakistan policy
6. Politicizing the Justice department and the firing of 9 federal prosecutors
7. Outing a CIA operative because her husband didn't agree with WMD policy.
8. Listening in on the american public's telephone calls in violation of the Constitution.
9. Torture
The list of goes on and on, what needs to happen is a truth commission that explains how they got away with these failed policies and then they need to be tried for war crimes....what should have happened was impeachment, but politics prevailed........what a bunch of losers and morons....History will prove them to be the worst that has ever served up to this point in History.
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by RandyMacon April 27, 2009 10:32 AM EDT
Schieffer did a great job of lobbing Republican talking points at both McCain and Leahy, particularly the 'banana republic' line which suggest it is political vindictiveness that is motivating the Democrats. The description of the Democrats' rejection of torture as a 'policy difference' is a Republican attempt to downplay the illegality of what we did.
As Chrystia Friedland said on Stephanopolous yesterday, it's 'not a matter of right and left, it's a matter of right and wrong'.


We need to make it clear - torture is wrong and clearly illegal in both American and international law. Any lawyer who wrote ex post facto justifications for illegal conduct after it had already started is either a criminal for willingly writing in contravention to existing and well known laws, or so stupid and naive that he or she is incompetent.
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by abbe91 April 27, 2009 10:06 AM EDT
"I agree with what you just wrote. Most all people would say get the information anyway possible, even torture. Most liberals have not really seen the other side. They would change their mind about lots of things if they had to face what people in other countries face.
Posted by hungryman9 at 6:54 AM : Apr 27, 2009 "

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/24/politics/washingtonpost/main4967676.shtml
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