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by rushlimpdrug January 8, 2009 1:11 AM EST

Posted by harbinger09 at 10:01 PM

It is official, you are stupid.

People are asking for the head of
Madoff, and guess what?
Madoff is not investing anyone''s
money right now.

The HONORABLE thing to do for the
state of Illinois is for this
gov to resign, or step aside,
but fools like you an burris
egg the man on.

No wonder the country is in
such sad shape.

Grow a brain.
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by harbinger09 January 8, 2009 1:01 AM EST
This matter is about Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich who is currently under investigation with indictments and impeachment pending for trying to sell Pres.-elect Obama''''s Senate Seat to the highest bidder.

Posted by spinproof at 08:10 PM : Jan 07, 2009

This is why rule of law MUST trump emotionalism. YOu can''t convict a man on a tape alone with no trial unless you want there to be no more laws for anyone.
He is under investigation. There are NO indictments--in fact, Fitzgerald has asked for an extension because he does not have what it takes to get an indictment--yet. what we have are incriminating tapes and a lot of knee jerk, enraged, reaction. The sort of thing lynch mobs rise to the occassion for. IN the meantime, until it is proven in a court of law, Blago has a job, and he can appoint whomever he likes--if that appointment is questioned, it should be hashed out in a vetting process not in an ultimatum showdown where the federal gov tries to override the perogatives of a state or that state''s governor.
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by harbinger09 January 8, 2009 12:57 AM EST
But Harry Reid didn''''t go that route - when social order breaks down, I think people want to see leaders exhibit an exercise of the law that''''s as close to intended in both letter and spirit. That Harry Reid didn''''t know how to best do that I think alters the outcome because it deprives him of the principled stand that he would need to have avoided accepting Blago''''s appointment (?)

Posted by SamTheTVCat at 06:00 PM : Jan 07, 2009


Unfortunately for you and Reid, there is something called State''s rights. Unless otherwise indicated by the Constitution, those in federal positions cannot supercede state authority, and purview just because it suits them politically. Just like Alaska allows convicts to be Senators, there is nothing in the ILlinois Constitution about a governor abdicating his responsibility to appoint, just because he is accused of a crime. There has been no charges, no conviction, and no indictment--the appt is legal.

Further, in NO STATES bylaws is the federal gov given the job or right to supercede the judgement of a State or their duly appointed gov. Reid and the Dems were out of their jurisdiction--we do not re-write the Constitution for wars, for illegal immigrants nor for political parties with embarrassing members.
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by harbinger09 January 8, 2009 12:53 AM EST
That cleverly criminal Illinois Governor has managed to intoduce another ball onto the court. Those Illinois dummies are following that ball rather than the game ball. Why is he still ib office?

Posted by mydiatribe at 06:07 PM : Jan 07, 2009


It''s that pesky Constitution.

1. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. With no charges, and no indictment and only a phone call and no actual proof--Blago remains INNOCENT until proven guilty--because he is still the gov. and has not been convicted, impeachment on hearsay or wishful thinking will be a very long, and legally fraught process.

2. They can''t convict based on a conversation with no proof--so they hope to wait until Fitzgerald can find some. Hearsay from Blago''s enemies is not enough to bring charges--at stake are malicious prosecution charges against Fitzgerald and the State of Illinois if they have no real case.

You may not like it, but saying one would commit a crime is not the same as commiting a crime. there has to be a bribe, or favors or something. Ever say you''d like to kill someone? Would you like to be charged for murder even though you never killed them? Would you like to lose your job over you saying that? Think, then post.
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by harbinger09 January 8, 2009 12:48 AM EST
Burris is not our next President. Perhaps you should learn something and know your facts. Iraq is something we can''''t take back, but it certainly was not a waste- we got Sudam Hussein..and that is a good thing. Afghanistan is next-- that is another place men will die..wake up.

Posted by peace4321 at 12:59 PM : Jan 07, 2009


Afghanistan is NOT a place men will die--it is a place men have and will continue to die in. As for war and lies--the sad truth is, the war in Iraq WAS/IS based on lies and greed and NOTHING said or done now can replace or bring back the men, women and children destoryed by that war. NOTHING. Which means before you push for or defend any war--learn the consequences and NEVER start a pre-emptive war. YOU need to wake your own fvcking self up.
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by harbinger09 January 8, 2009 12:44 AM EST
The Dems had NO legal leg to stand on to challenge the appointment or deny the seat. We do not act or react to unproven, untried legal charges or implications. Blago was not charged or indicted. The investigator in the case does not even yet have a case and needs more time.

Despite the leak to the press, there is no crime without results and leaking phone calls where the gov. spouted off in no way proves a pay to play scheme was actually acted upon. By acting precipitously, the Dems have demonstrated a scared, knee jerk reaction and they and Obama have political egg on their faces. IN matters of state vs Federal, the gov cannot supercede or override the Constitution on matters of indiv. states. Reid tried to do this--and now after Feinstein says what we, and many others have said for weeks--even Obama realizes he and the dems were treading a very dangerous and slippery slope. Seat the man, if Illinois does not want him, they will have their say in 2010.
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by cattiej January 7, 2009 11:38 PM EST
Well, I too knew that Reid,Durbin and the rest of the corrupt, greedy Democrats would fold. We live in Illinois but as soon as we can, we are getting the heck outta here. Burris is a sham. I don''t care what color the man or women is that Gov. Blago appointed, I care that anyone but a jerk would accept having their name submitted. Bobby Rush should retire. He is a racist. He just wants to keep the race talk going and going. This ins''t about race, it is about right from wrong. This is wrong. Harry Reid just want''s to make sure a Democrat gets in, he would sell his own mother for another Democratic vote. Our country is in TROUBLE.
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by spinproof January 7, 2009 11:10 PM EST
This matter is not about Roland Burris or his qualifications, it would not matter who the appointee was! This matter is about Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich who is currently under investigation with indictments and impeachment pending for trying to sell Pres.-elect Obama''s Senate Seat to the highest bidder. This idea that because Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich has not been indicted, impeached or removed from office yet and so he gets to decide who replaces Pres.-elect Obama for the very same Senate Seat that''s a part of the criminal complaint against him is outrageous. I predict that if Roland Burris accepts this Senate Seat under these conditions he will be soundly defeated by the citizens of Illinois if he decides to run for that same seat when it comes up for reelection even if Mikey Mouse is running against him as payback! If this is legally O.K. then the Laws need to be tweaked to prohibit it!
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by rushlimpdrug January 7, 2009 10:38 PM EST

Burris is a sham.

The man is a pathetic
hollow body.

So sad to see sooo many waste time
and energy because Burris has
done the wrong deed.

of course they should absolutely
positively seat him because
he is BLACK.

Give burris the seat BECAUSE
he is BLACK and that would help
undo ALL the injustice to the
poor black slave of the past.

Get real.

He is a total scam artist.


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by cessna172_ January 7, 2009 9:54 PM EST
1st off Blagojevich didn''t work a deal with Burris instead it was Jackson .

Burris is fine just have some one esle besides that crooked Govenor do the appointing like the Lt. Govenor
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