All of u that are buying into all of this are stupid and belive anything ur told by our government,9/11 was carried out by wait for this.....Our Government. there are clear videos of explosions going off one by one at the bottom of the towers.1300 arcitects and enginers saw it as it was. a controled dimillition. they join building what? campain and got enough signiturs to lap the world but was denied for a reinvestigation, by the U.S government.they have changed the story 5x so far about what happened with the (capture of bin) and y would a u.s cia agent take cridet for it? I dont know i guess the same reason saddam also cia agent was put in controll where he was. religos war perposuse. try this google fbi most wanted list. bin ladden wanted poster says nothing even about 9/11. yall need to wake up our government is taking us for a ride. the news is controlled by guess who yep so dont expect them to show u whats up. you got to dig for it. kidda like how they are now shifting all the focus on the hellicopter. kinda odd that they would leave a TOP secret like that just there. use your head people. government didnt make us. we made the government
you are f'n scary!! i pray there aren't many more like you out there, but i know better, this world if filled with nutbags. come out of your mom's basement and get some fresh air!!!
I know you are the person to ask this. I need to get a tinfoil hat to prevent the rays that carry TV signals from penetrating my head.
I am sure that they are sending messages to control people and since you are clearly out of control I assume you can help me.
dont hurt yourself with these. o and use concrete to put your head in make sure you stick it all the way in there now. And im not to sure that i want to come out of your moms basement she takes it all from me and dont complain.
Spokesman for George W. Bush says former president has chosen to remain out of spotlight during his post-presidency
LOL!
Bill Clintonista declined the invitation also. Very unusual for him to stay out of the spotlight.
Obama and his followers criticized everything Bush did in the Global war on Terror for the last 10 years and took every opportunity to Aid and Abet the enemy in their personal war against Bush. The Enemy of My Enemy is my Friend.
This is Obama's moment in the sun. Let him have it.
Nothing justifies Crimes Against Humanity - nothing. To stoop so low, means that the other side has won. It is our duty to arrest and bring to trial Mr. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Ms. Rice for these greatest of all crimes. If we don't have the guts to do so, then hopefully another country will.
If they are so convinced of their innocence, surely they have nothing to fear from an honest judiciary.
Makes me sick to my stomach when I read such ignorant comments as this. These are terrorist with only one goal and that is to kill Americans. F' them, do whatever it takes to extract information that could keep me, my family, my neighbors and friends safe. Your warm milk and cookie approach is so out of touch. I'm sure you were also offended by the code name "GERONIMO" for this operation. Please, just go away and take your PC bs with ya!!!
acdcguy -You are exactly right. These scumbags aren;t even human. They don;t care about killing.. It's like going to the movies for them. The libs that pull this crap are a joke and obviously never directly affected by what's transpired. Basically they are pathetic and should do us all a favor and go away.
As you can see from the posts by acdcguy and guyfrompa46, conservatives do not believe in the rule of law or the Constitution. They believe that whatever is going on in their pointed little heads is the truth, even when it is in direct conflict with reality.
Bush had eight years to catch Bin Laden, and what did he do....nothing. They fail to notice that the tactics they advocate failed to produce results. That Bush was a total failure in his efforts to catch Bin Laden, because he really didn't try.
George Bush said "I really just don't spend that much time on him (Bin Laden), to be honest with you"
Even he admits that he didn't put much effort into finding Bin Laden.
See the video of Bush's statement here.
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/02/bush-bin-laden/
CBS News correspondent David Martin reports that the courier was described as a protege of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, and the man who delivered bin Laden's orders to al Qaeda operatives in the field. In fact, current and former U.S. officials said that Mohammed gave intelligence officials the courier's name. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.
It was about four years ago that U.S. intelligence finally determined the courier's real name: Maulawi Abd al-Khaliq Jan. Take a look at it. It cost bin Laden his life.
Key to the hunt was identifying the cell phone number of the courier and placing it under surveillance. In 2010, the U.S. intercepted a call to the courier in which he was asked where he had been. He responded that he was back with the people he had been with before. The caller then said, "May God facilitate you" - the implication being that courier was back with bin Laden and his family.
The courier did not make it easy to locate the compound, however, since every time he approached the compound, he turned off his phone. He did this more than 90 minutes out and removed the battery, so he went totally dark and would leave it off when he was in the compound. When he left the compound, he would wait 90 minutes and turn it back on. Analysts would therefore keep seeing this pop up in places all over Pakistan but nowhere near to Abbattabod. This is why it took so long to find the compound after they had the name and the cell phone number for the courier.
by nottblu May 4, 2011 3:56 PM EDT 24 soldiers took this evil basstard out, that's not a nuke in a knife fight.
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Duh. I was not talking about Osama in this instance. Osama needed to be taken out, and he need to be burred at see. All of it was strategic and smart, nothing I would expect from you are anyone you would call a leader.
by facelessdrone2005 May 4, 2011 3:55 PM EDT So, Mort, if the end justifies the means, then what if waterboarding doesn't work? OK with you to try pulling out fingernails, electric shocks to the testicles, cutting off fingers, raping his wife in front of him, WTH, anything that gets an answer is okay for the land of the free and the home of the brave. Right?
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Okay, you obviously have no combat arms experience, so this may be hard for you. But let's try.
Using an example scenario from a movie that I saw...
You are a platoon leader. You have 35 men, who are surrounded and under seige by 100 of the enemy. You managed to capture one of their platoon leaders and radio operators. You are about to be overrun.
You could just keep fighting...but you are losing and help is not close enough to save you. So, unless you change the dynamic, you WILL be overrun and either killed or captured. What do you do?
You still cannot answer the question. You poor thing. Explains why you cannot carry on a rational conversation.
But, if you think you might be able to muster enough brain power to take on this hypothetical and say what you would do, or what should be done in that situation, maybe you can redeem yourself.
No, Usaisback. You show your idiocy yet again! Why would I think that you wouldnt?
I pulled a situation out of a movie to show you the type of situations we face on the ground...and the decisions that must be made. I referenced the movie so as not to plagiarize the scenario as my own.
The scenario is what I am talking about and asking the question about. Not the movie.
But you are obvious not intellectually capable of seeing that, or answering the question.
I would imagine its more common place then we can even imagine. its the way it always has been. certain circumstance and depending on the situation,you know it gets ugly. Its war and nowadays, we still treat our enemy combatants ten fold better than all of our enemies past and present. not saying it right or wrong, and in most cases ,its not needed.
whats inhumane is teh fact our enemies often dont get speedy due process. then when we do catch them we put them in a nice,cushy jail cell. we rreally need to start sending teh right message to our enemies. perhaps some kind of international military tribunal is the way to go. there was nothing wrong with the nuremberg trails. they work, and spared the world alot of time and money. execute those that deserve it,or have committed henious terrorist acts,then we will send the right message.
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I am sure that they are sending messages to control people and since you are clearly out of control I assume you can help me.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6294247865347258056#
http://www.911proof.com/11.html
dont hurt yourself with these. o and use concrete to put your head in make sure you stick it all the way in there now. And im not to sure that i want to come out of your moms basement she takes it all from me and dont complain.
Spokesman for George W. Bush says former president has chosen to remain out of spotlight during his post-presidency
LOL!
Bill Clintonista declined the invitation also. Very unusual for him to stay out of the spotlight.
Obama and his followers criticized everything Bush did in the Global war on Terror for the last 10 years and took every opportunity to Aid and Abet the enemy in their personal war against Bush. The Enemy of My Enemy is my Friend.
This is Obama's moment in the sun. Let him have it.
To stoop so low, means that the other side has won.
It is our duty to arrest and bring to trial Mr. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Ms. Rice for these greatest of all crimes.
If we don't have the guts to do so, then hopefully another country will.
If they are so convinced of their innocence, surely they have nothing to fear from an honest judiciary.
They believe that whatever is going on in their pointed little heads is the truth, even when it is in direct conflict with reality.
Bush had eight years to catch Bin Laden, and what did he do....nothing.
They fail to notice that the tactics they advocate failed to produce results. That Bush was a total failure in his efforts to catch Bin Laden, because he really didn't try.
George Bush said "I really just don't spend that much time on him (Bin Laden), to be honest with you"
Even he admits that he didn't put much effort into finding Bin Laden.
See the video of Bush's statement here.
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/02/bush-bin-laden/
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CBS News correspondent David Martin reports that the courier was described as a protege of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, and the man who delivered bin Laden's orders to al Qaeda operatives in the field. In fact, current and former U.S. officials said that Mohammed gave intelligence officials the courier's name. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.
It was about four years ago that U.S. intelligence finally determined the courier's real name: Maulawi Abd al-Khaliq Jan. Take a look at it. It cost bin Laden his life.
Key to the hunt was identifying the cell phone number of the courier and placing it under surveillance. In 2010, the U.S. intercepted a call to the courier in which he was asked where he had been. He responded that he was back with the people he had been with before. The caller then said, "May God facilitate you" - the implication being that courier was back with bin Laden and his family.
The courier did not make it easy to locate the compound, however, since every time he approached the compound, he turned off his phone. He did this more than 90 minutes out and removed the battery, so he went totally dark and would leave it off when he was in the compound. When he left the compound, he would wait 90 minutes and turn it back on. Analysts would therefore keep seeing this pop up in places all over Pakistan but nowhere near to Abbattabod. This is why it took so long to find the compound after they had the name and the cell phone number for the courier.
24 soldiers took this evil basstard out, that's not a nuke in a knife fight.
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Duh. I was not talking about Osama in this instance. Osama needed to be taken out, and he need to be burred at see. All of it was strategic and smart, nothing I would expect from you are anyone you would call a leader.
So, Mort, if the end justifies the means, then what if waterboarding doesn't work? OK with you to try pulling out fingernails, electric shocks to the testicles, cutting off fingers, raping his wife in front of him, WTH, anything that gets an answer is okay for the land of the free and the home of the brave. Right?
----------------
Okay, you obviously have no combat arms experience, so this may be hard for you. But let's try.
Using an example scenario from a movie that I saw...
You are a platoon leader. You have 35 men, who are surrounded and under seige by 100 of the enemy. You managed to capture one of their platoon leaders and radio operators. You are about to be overrun.
You could just keep fighting...but you are losing and help is not close enough to save you. So, unless you change the dynamic, you WILL be overrun and either killed or captured. What do you do?
What would you do in this situation?
But, if you think you might be able to muster enough brain power to take on this hypothetical and say what you would do, or what should be done in that situation, maybe you can redeem yourself.
I pulled a situation out of a movie to show you the type of situations we face on the ground...and the decisions that must be made. I referenced the movie so as not to plagiarize the scenario as my own.
The scenario is what I am talking about and asking the question about. Not the movie.
But you are obvious not intellectually capable of seeing that, or answering the question.
Taking a hypothetical to look at a situation is what people with intellect have. Please try to join us.
whats inhumane is teh fact our enemies often dont get speedy due process. then when we do catch them we put them in a nice,cushy jail cell. we rreally need to start sending teh right message to our enemies. perhaps some kind of international military tribunal is the way to go. there was nothing wrong with the nuremberg trails. they work, and spared the world alot of time and money. execute those that deserve it,or have committed henious terrorist acts,then we will send the right message.