ok. I see that due to the increment of crime rates, it is a good idea to have a gun at home to defend your family. My question is... Do we need assault riffles to defend our home? I ask this, because I just heard about the flow of assault riffles to Mexico. I am very disappointed at the way this is handle. This guys can care less about innocent people dying, they make so much money sellling this riffles to drug cartels. The thing is that if it doesnt affect us, we dont care! I personally experienced a shoot out in Monterrey Mexico, there were about 5 kids with AK-47's figthing the Mexican Army. But who cares right? while we make money out of it and it doesnt happen here.
Just want to say "hi all"..New to this but after reading article I would like to just add. This is crap! I am an American born 39 yr old woman who is married with kids and grandkids. I am a firm believer on our government being our 1st biggest enemy and 2nd would like to say that I am in favor of an American citizen carrying/owning/having any kind of legal gun!! My husband and I personally own several and I would not change a thing. GUNS/KNIVES/PENCILS/PENS/PAPER Et c.. Do NOT kill or hurt people..People have to control these or ANY type of weapon of choice to succeed the crime. I am not going to rant and rave, I will make a long story short, I will not repeat here what has already been said. As long as you have humans, you will have ANY sort of bad happening. Want to get away from it?????? Easy theroy..
As soon as ALL males and females turn 18, we THOROUGHLY test them; Mentally, physically, et c.. If they do not meet "commen sense" living, if they test out to favor rapists, murderers, psychos what have yous...Spay and Neuter so that the seed cannot be passed on and just make the duration of their stay nice. EASY!!
While dinkydog1 is void of all reality and sits with his/her head covered sobbing Bette Midler songs scrunched up in the corner... now just imagine if ten responsible armed citizens holding Arizona carry permits had been wrapped around the scene of the Tuscon shooting incident. Three of them attending IDPA annually. Two of them NRA instructors. It would have saved peoples lives...despite the resentment of the media and dinkydog1 who would resent being rescued by a armed...fellow citizen and forever be unable to repair their self esteem as a result!"
dinkydog1 is a perfect example of the breed of American who rebels against authority. Like a teenager that won't turn down their music and aspires to sit around at Woodstock or a child that touches the stove burner after dad says Noooo! and then cries about it. This is the person that sits at a traffic accident and waits for paramedics while the driver in front is pinned in a burning car. dinkydog1 is neither a Nationally Registered Paramedic or licensed for concealed carry. Further profiling places this person in front of a TV watching Ellen, Icarly, How I Met Your Mother, Two and a Half Men, Sex In The City, and As The World Turns worrying about their self esteem while someone else intubates and defibrillates the victim under a guard rail at two in the morning!" While dinkydog1 is void of all reality and sits with his/her head covered sobbing Bette Midler songs scrunched up in the corner... now just imagine if ten responsible armed citizens holding Arizona carry permits had been wrapped around the scene of the Tuscon shooting incident. Three of them attending IDPA annually. Two of them NRA instructors. It would have saved peoples lives...despite the resentment of the media and dinkydog1 who would resent being rescued by a armed...fellow citizen and forever be unable to repair their self esteem as a result!"
dinkydog1 is a perfect example of the irresponsible breed of American that rebels against authority. Like a child that touches the stove after Dad says Noooo! and then cries afterwards. Like a teenager that won't turn their music down and aspires to be a Woodstock participant. Both the child and teenager won't posses, carry, or be licensed to carry a firearm. This is the person who sits at a traffic accident while the driver in front is pinned in a burning car and waits for paramedics to arrive. dinkydog1 is neither a Nationally Registered Paramedic...or licensed to carry a concealed firearm. Further profiling would place him or her in front of a TV watching Ellen, Icarly, Two and a Half Men, How I Met Your Mother, Sex In the City, or As the World Turns worrying about their self esteem while someone else intubates and defibrillates the victim under a guard rail at two in the morning."
To all the gun haters and believers that the government and police will always come to your aid at any time, any place, and any circumstance and protect you from assault and deadly injury. You can live with your belief, thats fine, but don't restrict me from buying the guns I need to protect my self and family. I have the same rights as you, but I do not believe as you do that the government will be there to protect me. In fact, government will tell you after you called 911 and report a home invasion at your home that they are sorry they took 20 minutes to get there, and they are not responsible for your husband getting shot. I think most cops would tell you to purchase a gun, take a gun safety course, and train yourself to use it. We shall all die, but it is the unarmed, naive and wishful that are more likely to die at the hands of a criminal. The educated person that chooses armed intervention has increased his chance of survival by 100 %. Which person would rather be ?
What happened to personal responsibility in this country? People are so used to the government saving them that they can not even imagine any circumstance where they might have to take care of themselves. If you spill a cup of coffee on yourself take the bastards who gave you what you asked for to court so a government judge can baby you. If you take on a debt that you know you can't afford (an ARM with a huge balloon payment) go cry to the government to help you when it comes due. Have a child and don't want to support her, that's okay, the government will do that for you. Don't feel like getting a job to pay your bills, that's okay, call the government to give you a check you don't deserve. If a criminal is breaking into your house at 3 in the morning don't do anything to stop him yourself, call the government to help. Someone attacking your kids on the street? Just sit back and call dial-a-prayer (911), sooner or later the government will send someone to help.
Our founding fathers, and most of our countrymen up until about WWII believed in liberty, freedom and personal responsibility. Maybe it was Roosevelt's New Deal, maybe it was the pampering the Baby Boomer's got from the Greatest Generation, maybe it is the flouride in our water system, but somewhere along the way as a nation we left those ideals behind and became a country that can not do anything for themselves. Gun control is one way this unhealthy pathos is showing itself, but it is not the only way. This change of heart as a people is why America is falling behind the rest of the world in so many different areas. Maybe, just maybe, if we actually remembered what Kennedy said during his inaguaration ("And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country") we could get back to the ideals that made our country great. The first step each individual can take is start accepting personal responsibility for their actions, their decisions, their life situation and their safety. The government should be there as a backup and as a last resort, not as the first, last and only player in the game.
jimbom121 is...yep...someone who can't pickup a gun with out shooting somebody! Get the Bette Midler CD out Jimbo! You certaintly won't be shooting IDPA...or saving their ass under a guard rail at two in the morning with a larygoscope! But why should you have to? Someone else will do it for you. Go back to your movie and re-run of Desperate Housewives!"
He's partially right. Government policies have gotten more people killed. Here are some:
-2004 allowing the assault weapons ban to expire, despite almost 100% of city mayors wanting it continued
-Here's another one...allowing weapons in National Parks...since hunting is not allowed in these parks...not sure why guns are needed.
-Here's a good one--allowing concealed weapons in bars...because we know how well guns and alcohol mix.
-The FBI wanted to track gun purchases to make sure people on the terrorist watch list, but the NRA nixed that
-There are proposals to allow concealed weapons into schools...that's a great idea, so more kids can get shot. Sorry, it would not have stopped Columbine.
Jim"Here's another one...allowing weapons in National Parks...since hunting is not allowed in these parks...not sure why guns are needed."jimbom
Gee I dont know Being attack by a bear a rattle snake at your feet about to strike, Cougars. Maybe and attacker or robber that thinks that people there would be easy targets since they have no locked doors and no phone and no one can hear them scream and best of all it is illegal for them to have a firearm.
jim, I heard a lot of people predicting doom and gloom about allowing guns in National Parks, but as of yet I haven't heard of their being any problems, can you show me an instance where a person legally carrying a firearm caused a problem? Our National Parks are huge, remote swaths of land with little or no cell phone coverage and extremely low law enforcement presence. So, if you do see a life threatening situation, either with wildlife or with criminals (and large scale marijuana growing operations are a major problem, and the growers do have guns to protect their operations) you most likely have no means of calling the police, and even if you were able to get a call out the response time could easily be more than an hour. I know why you are sitting in your front room in a city where the police response time is only 8-10 minutes (a long time if your life is in danger) you can't grasp this, but just because you can't imagine it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I agree that people should not mix alcohol and firearms, but I know I can walk into a place that serves alcohol and not drink, I do it on a regular basis. I could support restrictions on carrying a firearm while under the influence of mind altering substances, but not on carrying just because of the location you are in. If you think I am wrong about this then make sure you fight just as hard to ban parking lots at bars as you do firearms, if you are not allowed to drink and drive why do you need a place to park your car?
The terrorist watch list is a very scary thing. Anyone can get you put on it, you will not be informed you are on it unless you try to do something it restricts (get on an airplane), and then, even if you can prove you are on it by mistake their is no defined way to get your name removed. I do not support taking away anyone's rights based on something so non-transparent, shadowed in secrecy and full of errors as this watchlist.
I would also argue against your total ban of firearms on school campuses based on the history of school shootings. Nobody was armed at Columbine except for the shooters, 13 dead. At Santana High School in Santee, CA there was someone legally carrying a firearm on campus (an off duty deputy dropping his child off), two dead. At Virginia Tech there were no legally armed citizens on campus, 33 people were killed. At Appalachian Law School another shooter was going on a rampage, but two students retrieved their guns from their vehicles and stopped him, 3 dead. At Pearl High School in Mississippi the Vice Principal, who had his gun with him, stopped the shooter. The death toll, 2 students. The shooter had slit his mothers throat before he went to school, so there were a total of 3 deaths. People with an agenda against guns say how come you never here about people using guns to stop crimes, there are two answers to this question. First, the crimes are usually stopped before there is any reason to put it on national news. You see, when armed citizens draw their weapons to stop a crime there is a very good chance the would be criminal is stopped before anyone is killed or even hurt. Secondly, far too many members of the media have a bias against guns so they try to sweep the fact that an armed citizen actually saved lives.
As an American you have the right to free speech, and I spent 23 years in the military supporting that right. All I ask is before you use that right please do your research. In 1986 only 9 states allowed citizens who met minimum requirements ("shall issue" concealed carry laws) to legally carry firearms, American had 240 million citizens and there were over 20,000 murders. In 2009, the last full year statistics were available, 38 states had "shall issue" laws, there were 307 million citizens and only 15,000. It is hard to argue that armed citizens carrying weapons is a problem when there is that big of a drop in the murder rate when so many more people are able to defend themselves.
It's pathetic how many cowards are so wraped up in thier fear and low self esteem that they have to carry a gun. What ding dongs dont realize is by weakining gun controll laws so much that mental patients and criminals can easily get guns, they made the world a more dangerous place for everyone just because thier too da#n lazy or ignorant to fill out a few forms.
Where do you think criminals get guns now? They get them off the street from the same guy that sells them drugs. Drugs are completely illegal and OMG they are the easy thing to get you dont need ID you dont need to be of age all you need is some cash.
dinkydog1=libtard,baby killing, Socialist go watch your CNBC so they can brain wash you some more
Yea, yea, and you NRA dingies have resisted even the most basic regulations. If it wern't for the folks you call "libruls" you wouldn't even have common sense stuff like background checks.
dinkydog1
The problem is that anti-gun people think every gun regulation is "common sense". Gun owners fight these so called "common sense" gun laws because we can end up with a system like we have here in California. If California is your idea of "common sense" gun laws, then we are in complete disagreement. By the way, I do support instant background checks.
You are just plain wrong. I have filled out forms for every gun I have purchased, submitted to the background check and do carry a concealed weapon. Why? I am a woman that travels alone or with my disabled husband on stretches of Interstates where there isn't as much traffic and towns are far apart. While I now have a decent vehicle, that wasn't always the case. Plus flat tires happen on new vehicles even.
In 2007, my pickup broke down 3 times before I got to where I was going. I was due at my destination by 5 pm...which in Aug is still daylight. The last time I broke down was shortly after midnight, 25 miles east of Billings, MT on I94....a known corridor for killers and abductors traveling both east and west. After sitting about 45 mins, a car with 2 men slowed down. I pretended to be on a cell phone and waved them off. They were probably decent guys, but with no protection other than an old tire iron, I wasn't taking chances. I finally got help and got to my destination.
That taught me a very valuable lesson. BE PREPARED!! My mechanic son-in-law told me the vehicle was reliable...don't trust him anymore. Carry a cell phone....cut other expenses to afford one, just use for emergencies. AND carry a gun, know how to use it and prepare for any scenario that could happen to females. For your information, I am in the caregiver field and work steadily plus I have my own business of raising registered dairy goats to sell milk, milk products and goat milk soaps. I don't call that lazy. Low self-esteem? I don't think so...my milk, products and soap business is booming, especially with guys (didn't realize that there's a lot that are concerned with what they eat and chemicals that they put on their bodies). Easily frightened? Never have been and never will be. I just happen to like living and doing things with my grandkids. Want to be around when the great gr.kids come along. I don't belong to the NRA, so maybe you wouldn't think I'm lazy, have low self-esteem and easily frightened...but I doubt it.
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GUNS/KNIVES/PENCILS/PENS/PAPER Et c.. Do NOT kill or hurt people..People have to control these or ANY type of weapon of choice to succeed the crime.
I am not going to rant and rave, I will make a long story short, I will not repeat here what has already been said.
As long as you have humans, you will have ANY sort of bad happening. Want to get away from it??????
Easy theroy..
As soon as ALL males and females turn 18, we THOROUGHLY test them; Mentally, physically, et c.. If they do not meet "commen sense" living, if they test out to favor rapists, murderers, psychos what have yous...Spay and Neuter so that the seed cannot be passed on and just make the duration of their stay nice. EASY!!
We shall all die, but it is the unarmed, naive and wishful that are more likely to die at the hands of a criminal. The educated person that chooses armed intervention has increased his chance of survival by 100 %. Which person would rather be ?
Our founding fathers, and most of our countrymen up until about WWII believed in liberty, freedom and personal responsibility. Maybe it was Roosevelt's New Deal, maybe it was the pampering the Baby Boomer's got from the Greatest Generation, maybe it is the flouride in our water system, but somewhere along the way as a nation we left those ideals behind and became a country that can not do anything for themselves. Gun control is one way this unhealthy pathos is showing itself, but it is not the only way. This change of heart as a people is why America is falling behind the rest of the world in so many different areas. Maybe, just maybe, if we actually remembered what Kennedy said during his inaguaration ("And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country") we could get back to the ideals that made our country great. The first step each individual can take is start accepting personal responsibility for their actions, their decisions, their life situation and their safety. The government should be there as a backup and as a last resort, not as the first, last and only player in the game.
-2004 allowing the assault weapons ban to expire, despite almost 100% of city mayors wanting it continued
-Here's another one...allowing weapons in National Parks...since hunting is not allowed in these parks...not sure why guns are needed.
-Here's a good one--allowing concealed weapons in bars...because we know how well guns and alcohol mix.
-The FBI wanted to track gun purchases to make sure people on the terrorist watch list, but the NRA nixed that
-There are proposals to allow concealed weapons into schools...that's a great idea, so more kids can get shot. Sorry, it would not have stopped Columbine.
Gee I dont know Being attack by a bear a rattle snake at your feet about to strike, Cougars. Maybe and attacker or robber that thinks that people there would be easy targets since they have no locked doors and no phone and no one can hear them scream and best of all it is illegal for them to have a firearm.
I agree that people should not mix alcohol and firearms, but I know I can walk into a place that serves alcohol and not drink, I do it on a regular basis. I could support restrictions on carrying a firearm while under the influence of mind altering substances, but not on carrying just because of the location you are in. If you think I am wrong about this then make sure you fight just as hard to ban parking lots at bars as you do firearms, if you are not allowed to drink and drive why do you need a place to park your car?
The terrorist watch list is a very scary thing. Anyone can get you put on it, you will not be informed you are on it unless you try to do something it restricts (get on an airplane), and then, even if you can prove you are on it by mistake their is no defined way to get your name removed. I do not support taking away anyone's rights based on something so non-transparent, shadowed in secrecy and full of errors as this watchlist.
I would also argue against your total ban of firearms on school campuses based on the history of school shootings. Nobody was armed at Columbine except for the shooters, 13 dead. At Santana High School in Santee, CA there was someone legally carrying a firearm on campus (an off duty deputy dropping his child off), two dead. At Virginia Tech there were no legally armed citizens on campus, 33 people were killed. At Appalachian Law School another shooter was going on a rampage, but two students retrieved their guns from their vehicles and stopped him, 3 dead. At Pearl High School in Mississippi the Vice Principal, who had his gun with him, stopped the shooter. The death toll, 2 students. The shooter had slit his mothers throat before he went to school, so there were a total of 3 deaths. People with an agenda against guns say how come you never here about people using guns to stop crimes, there are two answers to this question. First, the crimes are usually stopped before there is any reason to put it on national news. You see, when armed citizens draw their weapons to stop a crime there is a very good chance the would be criminal is stopped before anyone is killed or even hurt. Secondly, far too many members of the media have a bias against guns so they try to sweep the fact that an armed citizen actually saved lives.
As an American you have the right to free speech, and I spent 23 years in the military supporting that right. All I ask is before you use that right please do your research. In 1986 only 9 states allowed citizens who met minimum requirements ("shall issue" concealed carry laws) to legally carry firearms, American had 240 million citizens and there were over 20,000 murders. In 2009, the last full year statistics were available, 38 states had "shall issue" laws, there were 307 million citizens and only 15,000. It is hard to argue that armed citizens carrying weapons is a problem when there is that big of a drop in the murder rate when so many more people are able to defend themselves.
NRA = Lazy, low self esteem, easily frightened.
dinkydog1=libtard,baby killing, Socialist go watch your CNBC so they can brain wash you some more
The problem is that anti-gun people think every gun regulation is "common sense". Gun owners fight these so called "common sense" gun laws because we can end up with a system like we have here in California. If California is your idea of "common sense" gun laws, then we are in complete disagreement. By the way, I do support instant background checks.
In 2007, my pickup broke down 3 times before I got to where I was going. I was due at my destination by 5 pm...which in Aug is still daylight. The last time I broke down was shortly after midnight, 25 miles east of Billings, MT on I94....a known corridor for killers and abductors traveling both east and west. After sitting about 45 mins, a car with 2 men slowed down. I pretended to be on a cell phone and waved them off. They were probably decent guys, but with no protection other than an old tire iron, I wasn't taking chances. I finally got help and got to my destination.
That taught me a very valuable lesson. BE PREPARED!! My mechanic son-in-law told me the vehicle was reliable...don't trust him anymore. Carry a cell phone....cut other expenses to afford one, just use for emergencies. AND carry a gun, know how to use it and prepare for any scenario that could happen to females. For your information, I am in the caregiver field and work steadily plus I have my own business of raising registered dairy goats to sell milk, milk products and goat milk soaps. I don't call that lazy. Low self-esteem? I don't think so...my milk, products and soap business is booming, especially with guys (didn't realize that there's a lot that are concerned with what they eat and chemicals that they put on their bodies). Easily frightened? Never have been and never will be. I just happen to like living and doing things with my grandkids. Want to be around when the great gr.kids come along. I don't belong to the NRA, so maybe you wouldn't think I'm lazy, have low self-esteem and easily frightened...but I doubt it.