House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), who led a press conference on the bill, said it would "make clear that taxpayer funding of elective abortion will not be the policy of this government."
The current law, he said, "does not reflect he will of the American people." Added the speaker: "Our members feel very strongly about the sanctity of human life."
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Well, here they go. Abortion really is the only issue that Republicans can talk about. What does Boehner know about the "will of the American people" A large majority of people support choice so he is only speaking for a small percentage. Of course, the senate will probably just blow it down, so all this is for is show.
Any Congress person, President, politician of any political party that uses the terminology -- "the American people" support/my party/my ideology" -- is lying.
The American people put those other representatives that are voting against your plans into office also.
I am so sick of being told what I think by people who frankly, give less of a damn about me and my needs than they do about their own.
The GOP is just fulfilling what the President promised. During the State of the Union, Obama said this abortion would not be paid by taxpayers in the new law. He was called a liar by Nelson. Do you remember that? So, what is happening now is just what the President ordered.
I hope the House of Representatives decides to start representing the American people.
This would be accomplished by tabling all the same ol', same ol' social issues and playing to specific voters and getting on board with what matters to the greatest number of us.
So, where are the jobs? Where is the security we need in our day to day lives?
Are you people going to remember that "the American People" is a whole lot larger group than those who vote one way or the other, or at all -- sad but true.
That being that the Congress is tasked by the enumerated power for providing an Army.
It is asked with providing and funding an army, but NOWHERE does it say that it has to provide for health care for veterans Mort. Funding for CURRENT members of the militia - YES, but NOT for veterans!
Come on, "Mr. Constitutional Scholar"! You like to go by the interpretation "TO THE LETTER" so show me EXACTLY where it says that it shall pay for VETERANS health care!
He seems to leave whenever he can't possibly use cute one liners and insults and after he got beaten in a fair debate.
If you notice the reply (where you got your quote)... he was already "spinning".
I would feel bad about so many people calling this one pathetic soul out... IF he wasn't so damned arrogant, self important and dismissive of others' points of view.
Anyway, maybe we should get back to the issue the article above is about? :-)
by cptdeuce January 20, 2011 4:14 PM EST I understand that you are attempting to make a point, but do you honestly believe that American Service Veterans (those that sacrificed in some case arms, legs and even their lives) and their families do not deserve benefits for their service?
No - ACTUAL war veterans DO deserve those benefits.
"Stateside veterans" such as myself and Mort DO NOT.
Either way, mort claims that ANY program that is not specifically spelled out in the US constitution - as set up by the founding fathers - is illegal and should be repealed.
If he doesn't denounce the VA health care system, then he's just proving himself to be a hypocrite - AGAIN.
by Mortarman429 January 20, 2011 4:15 PM EST The government cannot be a competitor. They dont have to perform by te same rules as the private sector participants. Such as, as a business owner, if I am running short on cash, I cant go out and demand the customers give me more money (taxes). They can.
So, it isnt the same. They dont have to compete. And competing with someone like that isnt a level playing field.
If i as a tax payer CHOOSE to pay into the "public option", then why shouldn't I be allowed to?
To protect insurance company profits, at the expense of MY health and MY financial security?
by 34sender January 20, 2011 4:11 PM EST Is the Veterans Administration listed in the "enumerated" powers?
By golly, it must be unconstitutional. All the strict Constitutional fundamentalists should give that stolen money back. Yep.
Old Mort LOVES to throw around the theory that "it's not in the constitution, so congress can't create or fund it".
VA health care isn't mentioned anywhere in the US constitution, yet Mort is reaping those rewards. Let's see his call to ban this program now, with the same fervor and zeal that he attacked the health care reform law!
The VA is a product of an enumerated power. That being that the Congress is tasked by the enumerated power for providing an Army. Thus, in order to do so, they are given the ability to provide laws, to tax citizens, etc in order to do so. A part of providing for an Army is buying equipment. Another part is providing pay and benefits to personnel (otherwise, without personnel, you wouldnt have an Army).
So again, you people have NO CLUE how the Constitution works. It has enumerated powers. As such, Congress WITHIN those enumerated powers can pass laws, tax, regulate, etc.
Another example is the post office. The Congress has the enumerated power to establish a post office. Thus, they pass laws that provide for that post office, postal regulations, pay and benefits, etc. They do that in order to put in place their responsibility under the enumerated power.
Now let's take healthcare. What enumerate power (they are listed under Article I) does healthcare fall under? It doesnt.
What enumerated power does education fall under? It doesnt.
When you learn HOW the Constitution is supposed to work, then this will be easy for you!
And true to form, the "constitutional scholar" (in his own mind only OBVIOUSLY!) -- comes on and debunks his own often stated crap.
It'd be funny, but it is sad, really. Fundamentalism is a serious mental disorder in it's own right, add the pathology of fabrication and denial... bingo, a mental illness trifecta.
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The current law, he said, "does not reflect he will of the American people." Added the speaker: "Our members feel very strongly about the sanctity of human life."
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Well, here they go. Abortion really is the only issue that Republicans can talk about. What does Boehner know about the "will of the American people" A large majority of people support choice so he is only speaking for a small percentage. Of course, the senate will probably just blow it down, so all this is for is show.
Any Congress person, President, politician of any political party that uses the terminology -- "the American people" support/my party/my ideology" -- is lying.
The American people put those other representatives that are voting against your plans into office also.
I am so sick of being told what I think by people who frankly, give less of a damn about me and my needs than they do about their own.
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Now, where are the jobs?
Maybe use the internet you are on to look into the facts?
This would be accomplished by tabling all the same ol', same ol' social issues and playing to specific voters and getting on board with what matters to the greatest number of us.
So, where are the jobs? Where is the security we need in our day to day lives?
Are you people going to remember that "the American People" is a whole lot larger group than those who vote one way or the other, or at all -- sad but true.
That being that the Congress is tasked by the enumerated power for providing an Army.
It is asked with providing and funding an army, but NOWHERE does it say that it has to provide for health care for veterans Mort. Funding for CURRENT members of the militia - YES, but NOT for veterans!
Come on, "Mr. Constitutional Scholar"! You like to go by the interpretation "TO THE LETTER" so show me EXACTLY where it says that it shall pay for VETERANS health care!
If you notice the reply (where you got your quote)... he was already "spinning".
I would feel bad about so many people calling this one pathetic soul out... IF he wasn't so damned arrogant, self important and dismissive of others' points of view.
Anyway, maybe we should get back to the issue the article above is about? :-)
The VA is a product of an enumerated power.
So is the health care reform law.
I understand that you are attempting to make a point, but do you honestly believe that American Service Veterans (those that sacrificed in some case arms, legs and even their lives) and their families do not deserve benefits for their service?
No - ACTUAL war veterans DO deserve those benefits.
"Stateside veterans" such as myself and Mort DO NOT.
Either way, mort claims that ANY program that is not specifically spelled out in the US constitution - as set up by the founding fathers - is illegal and should be repealed.
If he doesn't denounce the VA health care system, then he's just proving himself to be a hypocrite - AGAIN.
34sender, please take a few courses in the constitution. It will help you understand.
The proof is in my own words, not some quite contradictory claims of "credentials".
Please get some help for the pathology you exhibit. God's grace ...
The government cannot be a competitor. They dont have to perform by te same rules as the private sector participants. Such as, as a business owner, if I am running short on cash, I cant go out and demand the customers give me more money (taxes). They can.
So, it isnt the same. They dont have to compete. And competing with someone like that isnt a level playing field.
If i as a tax payer CHOOSE to pay into the "public option", then why shouldn't I be allowed to?
To protect insurance company profits, at the expense of MY health and MY financial security?
You're cracked - AND a hypocrite.
Is the Veterans Administration listed in the "enumerated" powers?
By golly, it must be unconstitutional. All the strict Constitutional fundamentalists should give that stolen money back. Yep.
Old Mort LOVES to throw around the theory that "it's not in the constitution, so congress can't create or fund it".
VA health care isn't mentioned anywhere in the US constitution, yet Mort is reaping those rewards. Let's see his call to ban this program now, with the same fervor and zeal that he attacked the health care reform law!
Go ahead Mort - tear it up!! Denounce away!
So again, you people have NO CLUE how the Constitution works. It has enumerated powers. As such, Congress WITHIN those enumerated powers can pass laws, tax, regulate, etc.
Another example is the post office. The Congress has the enumerated power to establish a post office. Thus, they pass laws that provide for that post office, postal regulations, pay and benefits, etc. They do that in order to put in place their responsibility under the enumerated power.
Now let's take healthcare. What enumerate power (they are listed under Article I) does healthcare fall under? It doesnt.
What enumerated power does education fall under? It doesnt.
When you learn HOW the Constitution is supposed to work, then this will be easy for you!
And true to form, the "constitutional scholar" (in his own mind only OBVIOUSLY!) -- comes on and debunks his own often stated crap.
It'd be funny, but it is sad, really. Fundamentalism is a serious mental disorder in it's own right, add the pathology of fabrication and denial... bingo, a mental illness trifecta.
The VA is my pay for services rendered. Can you possibly understand? I am betting no.
I pay federal income taxes, and I never agreed to that arrangement.
Therefore YOU are stealing my money, which of course is immoral.
By golly, it must be unconstitutional. All the strict Constitutional fundamentalists should give that stolen money back. Yep.