Its not guns people are pissed off at bad greedy power hungry Government any martial arts person with a samurai sword, A pipe bomb, peroxide from a hair dresser Molotov cocktail chlorine cyanide gas the list goes on. People need to join a keyboard militia and tell our representative that the government and especially the DEA is out of control and prohibition is the most destructive and raciest policy since Slavery and a new version of Jim Crow laws. We need a new Mr. Smith goes to Washington and watch again the 1939 version, Google Private Prison and cannabis POW Marc Emery and how former DEA head Karen Tandy's statement on Marc Emery arrest defecated on our rights granted by the Constitution he, now makes 12 cents an hour prison slave labor.
There is no doubt that gun control advocates will use this tragic incident to push their agenda to disarm the American citizen. Stay in touch with your local Senate and House representatives and voice your opinion. As a matter of fact I just now sent my views to my representatives to make sure my voice was heard.
In countries where gun are prohibited or highly restricted the criminals still have guns. His intent was to kill the Congresswomen and people around her. He could have taken that old truck in the front yard of his parents home and drove over them, possibly killing even more people. The old saying "Where there is a will there is a way" wholes true here. The people who fail to report him; His former friends; People like the professor who said he was afraid of him must be sorry they did not report him. Arrested 8 times and no convictions. The legal system that is set up for lawyers to make money. Don't believe it? Congress passes a 2000+ page medical bill and does not even address Tort reform. Why are medical cost so much in American and why does Congress get so little done? Look at how many lawyers are in Congress and you will have your answer. Are you not tired of seeing all the TV ads for class actions suits?
Let's get about abolishing the 2nd Amendment: The Second Amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791. It was about a 'well regulated Militia.' That was then and this is now. It's utterly astounding that people can't seem to grasp the difference between what was intended back then (and too, what the weaponry of those times was)...and the high powered weaponry of today that has nothing whatsoever to do with a 'well regulated Militia.' If we have to keep this antique amendment...then let's allow those who insist on having weaponry today...carry the 1791 version...a musket, understand that... Guns in 1791 were made by a gunsmith. Guns in 1791 had rudimentary rifling. Guns in 1791 were single shot weapons. Guns in 1791 were load through the muzzle. Guns in 1791 were fired via a flintlock.
Interesting argument...which totally ignores the facts and data of our time. An honest, thorough examination of the FACTS leads to only one conclusion: more gun control= more violent crime. You can philosophize all you want. It won't change the facts. If you want to live in a country with gun control, move to England. Loughner could have committed those awful murders in so many other ways. Physicians kill hundreds of thousands of people making mistakes in medicine. Should we abolish them, too? A free society has it's price. Don't want to live in a free society? There are lots of other places you can move to.
I think that gun control fanatics will push their agenda and ABC, CBS, and tons of other liberal/lefty organizations will spread the idea that this shooting has caused tons of people to support more gun control even if it isn't true.
Maybe we should not let Republicans have guns. They are the ones who want to use them to intimidate (see Tea Bag Party town halls). They are the ones who have been doing these political acts of violence (in AZ, KS) although they also use bombs (OK) and planes (TN).
I agree that assault weapons and high capacity magazines should be banned. However, since assault weapons are only useful for hunting people and killing large numbers of innocent people, the police should be banned from possessing assault weapons or extra-large magazines. The police only need defensive guns, not weapons of mass destruction like these evil guns.
This is so stupid... You have no idea what an assault weapon is. Yeah.. ban the high capacity magazines... instead the killer can bring TWO guns and shoot twice as fast!
Do you see how ridiculous your logic is?
STOP focusing on the tools of the killers and put your head on the human condition that causes people to be violent.
IT didn't bother him, the people that could be potentially watching and observing bothered him...I stand by my arguement...Things are amoral..people and their intentions are not.
Yes, that was my point exactly. It didn't bother Cheney that people were being tormented and abused. It bothered him that people might see what he had authorized. So he lashed out at the camera being the cause of problem. In this case the individual is the problem, the gun his tool of choice. Examine how this type of person can get a gun and there might be a preventative solution for one of the next crimes like this. I would argue that the majority of mass murder attempts are committed with a gun in the hands of an insane man.
take the guns away for the illegal aliens, as well as the knives, take them from felons, ex convicts, nut jobs and people with records. Another excuse to attack gun owners, just like and excuse to tone down the rhetoric. People kill people. Maybe we should look at the laws that allow people like this nut to be arrested 8 times and get community service, or others that have been arrested 20-30 50 times and they are allowed back on the streets. Crime is big business, and lawyers make the rules to keep them in money! On top of that, they make the laws for the citizens to follow. but they are full of loopholes for the criminals!
You have a good point. Local judicial districts are under staffed to handle the overwhelming court cases they must see. The average judge may be able to seat 3 jury trials a week. That is 150 trials per year. Most cities the size Phoenix have 12,000 + felony cases per year that could go to a jury. If you have 10 criminal judges, the most they can manage is 1500 trials. Of those, most are compromised by a plea to a lesser crime and time is then served or dropped. Unfortunately, state and federal funds have been cut and few have added new judges or court facilities. It takes tax dollars to run the judicial system and most of us don't want higher taxes. You won't like it but it is the facts that the judicial system goes after the worst offenders and lets the rest off easy. That is why you see the same criminals over and over. You do the math for your community.
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Do you see how ridiculous your logic is?
STOP focusing on the tools of the killers and put your head on the human condition that causes people to be violent.
IT didn't bother him, the people that could be potentially watching and observing bothered him...I stand by my arguement...Things are amoral..people and their intentions are not.