The most of the people that are against guns are HYPOCRITES in such a way that they actually believe in what they are saying. And they have the stats to back them up too , Right? Well I'm here to tell you that you are HYPOCRITES, because if you want some real studies here we go. Automobiles cause the most deaths in this country 43,000 of them According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration there are about 43,000 people killed in fatal car accidents?each year in the United States. Roughly, 40 percent of the fatal crashes are alcohol-related. In addition to fatal accidents, about 2.9 million people are injured each year.
The gun stats that you are always showing are results from ALL gun actions including ; Self Defense (Justifiable) Murder (Because they had no way to protect themselves). Accidental (3% were accidents) Police Shootings. (2% were "legal killings", such as when police officers do the shooting in the course of duty.) Half of Gun Deaths Are Suicides and they would still have committed the act if gun were not a tool. Statistics are available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), suicides accounted for 55% of the nation's nearly 31,000 firearm deaths. In the same year, 40% of deaths were homicides, 3% were accidents and the remaining 2% were "legal killings", such as when police officers do the shooting in the course of duty.
So do us all a FAVOR and start walking ever where you go because Automobiles kill more than gun's ever will, so go and punish those people that don't drink and drive, because Automobiles kill more people than gun's so that should make them a PRIORITY and ban them. OOPS that's right you feel you have a RIGHT to be able to own one of those and even drive one because you need to be able to travel around for what ever reason you have and because you like them it is 100% fine in that case right . And ban drinking and driving too while your at it. Oh wait a minute they already did but the Criminals are still killing people aren't they because your way IS NOT WORKING AND IT NEVER WILL.PERIOD Well like I said before to you ignorant people that keep trying to take away a law abiding citizens rights. YOU JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID??
Gun control is a devisive issue because polls try to simplify the responses. Are you for gun control if you want to prohibit 1st graders from carrying guns to class rooms? Are you for gun control if you want to make it illegal to pass out guns in mebtal hospitals or to known drug dealers? Are you for gun control if you enhance the penalties for using a gun during a crime? Of course you are. If you restrict in anyway who can have a gun, you support gun control. It is what degree of gun control that is the issue. And stop doing polls after an incident like Tucson. People are frightened and bewildered, therefore shriek for a solution rather than find a solution. There were more factors than just guns that went into Loughner's actions. If Loughner hadn't used a gun, then if he was so compelled to act, he would have used another weapon such as a truck.
Every example you have given there are already laws in place to prevent any incidents from that happening. Just another example of why we don't need new laws, just better enforcement of the current laws. I do agree with your opinion on placing polls after event such has Loughner.
"In the aftermath of the violence in Tucson this past weekend, the debate over gun control has been brought back to the forefront of American political discourse."
Yeah, ANYTHING to move Americans away from that reeking debt ceiling fiasco so it'll be out of mind by next election, right?
Amusedbyitall, you nailed it when you said pollsters should stop doing polls right after charged incidents like Tucson. It's easy to skew results while emotions still run hot but waiting until reason returns would result in far less knee jerking and a more balanced take on the issue.
I'm not split. The thugs (Liberals) have them so I've got them. I've already got gun control. Anyone breaks into my home or hurts a member of my family, I'll control who gets shot first.
When was the last time you've seen a crazed liberal, who got worked up reading a comment on a CBS news article, shooting off ridiculous statements?
Can you please post the statistics you speak of? I'm not looking for a right wing/left wing thing, I'm not trying to insult you because you're a leftist or anything, I'm really just asking for the statistics that you mention. If you're planning on dodging it and shooting your mouth off about the "stupid GOPers", don't bother. It gets you nowhere, and reinforces our assumptions that you have no idea what you're talking about, and that's about the only thing you've said in every post that anyone can make sense of, even if it doesn't make sense. An insulting anti-GOP post would only blend into every other anti-GOP post you've posted here.
Of course, I don't expect you to admit you were wrong twice, but be my guest if the dog ate the report that you found, or whatever the case may be. It's just not a good idea to throw out statements with no basis, it doesn't make you seem credible, and it works to confuse people who don't know any better.
Another thing the anti gun people don't want to hear...
is that some number of the illegal guns are actually used for ligitmate self defense... The tighter the gun laws are, the more they disenfranchise those who might have a reason to need to have a means of self defense.
So... your life is in danger... but there is this law that says you can't own one, what are you going to do? simple. Ignore the law. Do what you have to do to survive.
Also... there seems to be a great misconception about people who have a concealed carry permit. They think a few dollars, get a permit, buy a gun and you are go to go, tombstone, here we come. Just because you have a concealed carry permit, and carry a gun out in public, does NOT automatically give you a license to just shoot someone. If you shoot another person, you will be subjected to the closest scrutiny to determine if the shooting was ligitimate and justified, or not. If it was not, you WILL be held responsible for your actions. It may cost you all you own and you could end up spending your life behind bars. Carrying a gun is an awesome responsibility. Responsible adults do not go around 'just shooting people'.
Look, this is a tough issue. There are those that want to totally disarm this country. hate to tell you, but it aint gonna happen. You may disarm the people who pay attention to the laws, that's all. Indaina penetitury couldn't even keep inmates from making guns IN PRISON! (see zips pens and pipes) Sure, they were crude single shots, but....
The government cannot make any guarentee of my personal safety... they are not even required to show up at any emergency.... therefore the government has NO right to tell me that I cannot own the means to defend myself and my family.... and it says so... right in the constitution, and also the constituitions of most states....
Maybe you can't get a gun if you are a Republican. Their leaders are the ones inciting violence. Their spokesmen on the Corporate Fox Propaganda Channel like Palin and O'Reilly, have had their listeners kill for them (Giffords staffers in AZ, Dr. Tiller in KS).
Maybe we should take the guns away from Republican law enforcement officers too. You know...just in case they decide to act on something O'Rielly said...
A lot of these polls are fake polls coming from the Republican Corporation Propaganda machine. This is part of the conservative echo chamber where they keep repeating lies and misinformation long enough to change reality and truth and facts and events.
This is a tough issue and further impacted by the fact that I am unsure of renewing my expiring NRA membership. One one hand I believe that a high magazine clip like the one used by Jared should not be allowed for everyday citizens, there is no logical need for it and I dont want to give the NRA my money to suport saving something like that. On the other hand, Jared should NEVER have been allowed to get a gun let alone a CPL with his background under CURRENT Gun Laws! So Some areas I support tightening up and others need to be enforced better and punished more if not folllowed. I want to support the NRA but only for things I feel are correct to defend.
Please don't hesitate to renew your NRA membership. I don't think I will ever own a magazine that holds 30 rounds but there are reasons to own one. What if this country was invaded it might be nice to have one then. I would have a lot of fun just plinking away with one if I could afford the ammo. It might be fun just to look at one. I will not condone taking someone else's right to own one just because I don't think I need one. Remember even if it was illegal to own one the crooks and crazies would find them somehow. Keep reading your NRA magazine and thank you for commenting.
Remember, property is just stuff. Stuff can be insured and replaced.
The problem becomes when someone who is ruthless wants your stuff, and will do anything to get it, including kill you, maybe only because he knows that as soon as he leaves you can identify him to the police.
Then it isn't about stuff anymore, it just became about your life.
Property represents a right of ownership that follows, and is related to, a previous right of payment for your services. Property is evidence that you are not a slave. In Nazi Germany the government controlled the use of important property. In Soviet Russia the government owned all important property. Among the first things a dictatorship demands is their right to your property, and altruism is the method they use when force isn't working.
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Well I'm here to tell you that you are HYPOCRITES, because if you want some real studies here we go.
Automobiles cause the most deaths in this country 43,000 of them
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration there are about 43,000 people killed in fatal car accidents?each year in the United States.
Roughly, 40 percent of the fatal crashes are alcohol-related. In addition to fatal accidents, about 2.9 million people are injured each year.
The gun stats that you are always showing are results from ALL gun actions including ;
Self Defense (Justifiable)
Murder (Because they had no way to protect themselves).
Accidental (3% were accidents)
Police Shootings. (2% were "legal killings", such as when police officers do the shooting in the course of duty.)
Half of Gun Deaths Are Suicides and they would still have committed the act if gun were not a tool.
Statistics are available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), suicides accounted for 55% of the nation's nearly 31,000 firearm deaths.
In the same year, 40% of deaths were homicides, 3% were accidents and the remaining 2% were "legal killings", such as when police officers do the shooting in the course of duty.
So do us all a FAVOR and start walking ever where you go because Automobiles kill more than gun's ever will, so go and punish those people that don't drink and drive, because Automobiles kill more people than gun's so that should make them a PRIORITY and ban them.
OOPS that's right you feel you have a RIGHT to be able to own one of those and even drive one because you need to be able to travel around for what ever reason you have and because you like them it is 100% fine in that case right . And ban drinking and driving too while your at it. Oh wait a minute they already did but the Criminals are still killing people aren't they because your way IS NOT WORKING AND IT NEVER WILL.PERIOD
Well like I said before to you ignorant people that keep trying to take away a law abiding citizens rights. YOU JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID??
GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Yeah, ANYTHING to move Americans away from that reeking debt ceiling fiasco so it'll be out of mind by next election, right?
Amusedbyitall, you nailed it when you said pollsters should stop doing polls right after charged incidents like Tucson. It's easy to skew results while emotions still run hot but waiting until reason returns would result in far less knee jerking and a more balanced take on the issue.
Can you please post the statistics you speak of? I'm not looking for a right wing/left wing thing, I'm not trying to insult you because you're a leftist or anything, I'm really just asking for the statistics that you mention. If you're planning on dodging it and shooting your mouth off about the "stupid GOPers", don't bother. It gets you nowhere, and reinforces our assumptions that you have no idea what you're talking about, and that's about the only thing you've said in every post that anyone can make sense of, even if it doesn't make sense. An insulting anti-GOP post would only blend into every other anti-GOP post you've posted here.
Of course, I don't expect you to admit you were wrong twice, but be my guest if the dog ate the report that you found, or whatever the case may be. It's just not a good idea to throw out statements with no basis, it doesn't make you seem credible, and it works to confuse people who don't know any better.
is that some number of the illegal guns are actually used for ligitmate self defense... The tighter the gun laws are, the more they disenfranchise those who might have a reason to need to have a means of self defense.
So... your life is in danger... but there is this law that says you can't own one, what are you going to do? simple. Ignore the law. Do what you have to do to survive.
Also... there seems to be a great misconception about people who have a concealed carry permit. They think a few dollars, get a permit, buy a gun and you are go to go, tombstone, here we come. Just because you have a concealed carry permit, and carry a gun out in public, does NOT automatically give you a license to just shoot someone. If you shoot another person, you will be subjected to the closest scrutiny to determine if the shooting was ligitimate and justified, or not. If it was not, you WILL be held responsible for your actions. It may cost you all you own and you could end up spending your life behind bars. Carrying a gun is an awesome responsibility. Responsible adults do not go around 'just shooting people'.
Nuff said!
Democrats, get a life. What goes around comes around.
The problem becomes when someone who is ruthless wants your stuff, and will do anything to get it, including kill you, maybe only because he knows that as soon as he leaves you can identify him to the police.
Then it isn't about stuff anymore, it just became about your life.