on the matter of the health care repeal,i for one am not in favor of it.not until my husband was laid off did i find out that i was UNINSURABLE!!!!!,but i could purchase a policy from one company for $855.00 per month and i would have had a $5,000.00 deductable,there was no way i could have afforded it if i wanted to,but that is not,nor was it the point. to be told you ARE not insurable because of pre-existing conditions,to me is UNAMERICAN.tweek this bill if you must be a----,BUT don't mess around with honest hard working LEGAL citizens.oh and by the way you mess this up and i will make a promise to ALL you idiot holier than thou repubkican congressmen,if i would ever need insurance and cannot get it because you had to oput your evil little hands on this bill,YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM ME!!!!!!!
I find it funny that most Americans gripe and complain about how bad health care is in Canada and most the Canadians I know swear it is excellent and no problem. Who the heck do you believe? Them darn foreigners or them lying Americans?
Canada is an ally of the USA. It is pretty damn rank for Americans to spend so much time dissing their SOVEREIGN rights as a nation to have whatever they want.
I know several Canadians and none of them have nearly as much political disagreement with their leadership or each other as we do, they seem pretty content with their life.
The USA is a great country, but to people in other countries, it just isn't necessarily the greatest shining light on the hill ever to be seen on planet Earth. That shouldn't be difficult to understand.
Them crazy "Canucks" are fun loving people. They are too busy having fun and being content with their lives to complain about silly things they have little control of. Our lives should not revolve around party affiliation, politics and TV commentaries. Life is too short.
Canadians are pretty content with their lives. And I think that a lot of it has to do with having health care. It's like we have no worries. It gives us all great peace of mind to know that we and all our fellow Canadians are looked after.
As for politics, our world does not revolve around it. We don't eat, sleep and breathe it like you guys. Do you know that I never hear anyone talk about politics? No one knows who anyone else is voting for. In fact we are not stuck to voting for one party, like you guys. We can change who we vote for at any time. Many of us do not particularly like our Prime Minister, but we would not think of bashing him. We have respect for our leader. If we are not happy, then we make sure that we are heard, but there is no viciousness and hatred like the U.S. I'm thinking that maybe the fact that you only have 2 parties might have something to do with that. We have five parties.
by Birdman04 January 4, 2011 5:28 PM EST They are too busy having fun and being content with their lives to complain about silly things they have little control of.
I think that the reason that we are content is that we DO have more control over things. The government works for the PEOPLE, here. They hear what we are saying. Americans think that the people don't have any control because the government is running things. Not so. We have health care because we CHOOSE to have health care. This kind of health care. I hear no one complaining about it. We don't have guns because we CHOOSE not to have guns. We can have them if we wish, but we choose not to. If we hadn't made that choice, then we would be just like you guys. Living in fear. Not being able to walk down the streets at night. Wondering if your neighbor is going to flip his lid and go on a shooting spree. Having a gun under your pillow in case an intruder comes along.
I'm taking a big breath and giving a great big sigh. And that is what I have been doing for the last 4 years that I have been on CBS. Because of what I read here, I am thankful EVERY SINGLE DAY for what I have.
by louiville12 January 4, 2011 2:21 PM EST I concur in Canada THEY tell you where to go right?
WRONG. We can go wherever we like. We can go to whatever hospital we want and we will get the SAME quality in care. Good quality. A particular specialist may operate in only one hospital (possibly more), but I have a choice in which specialist I go to. I have a choice in everything I do.
I can go to any pharmacy and know that I'm not being ripped off. There may be a few dollars difference between them, but that's it. And here, we KNOW that what it says is in that bottle, is indeed what's in that bottle.
"....we are, were fighting TWO wars) what does Canada spend that money on?"
Lots of things. It isn't just health care. How about EDUCATION? Unlike you, we have a good education system. When a person graduates here, they know how to read. All Canadians know how to find themselves on a map. We learn about OTHER countries, not just our own.
Oh, and you aren't the only ones fighting in those two wars!
by louiville12 January 4, 2011 3:45 PM EST Oh and "In 2003, under Prime Minister Jean Chr?tien, about a hundred Canadian soldiers, on exchange to American units, participated in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Are you absolutely sure about that? I think maybe you might want to do a bit more research. A lot of people don't even know that there were Canadians in Iraq. It was something that was kept a secret.
"Oh and as far as education goes the US spends more per pupil then Canada does."
Well that's not surprising is it? You pay more for everything and have nothing to show for it. You pay thousands of dollars more for health care and it isn't better than anyone elses. In fact it isn't as good as everyone elses. You pay way more for your meds and there is no guarantee that you are even getting what it says on the bottle.
I wouldn't be bragging that you are paying more for each student because it's a well known fact that your education system sucks. When you have people that are graduating and can't read, people that can't find their country on a map, you've got big problems. I don't know where that money is going, but it ain't going for education.
by louiville12 January 4, 2011 3:54 PM EST Oh and "WRONG. We can go wherever we like. you mean as long as it's a government clinic, specialist.... right cuz last I heard if you don't trust them and go to a "private" one it's ALL out of your pocket.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. We do not have "private" clinics. And we do trust our clinics. We have "private" hospitals, but very few. Most people DO NOT go to private hospitals. And do not WANT to go to private hospitals. They want to live! I already told you that if a hospital is private, there is no control over the competence of the health care workers or the cleanliness. Once something becomes private, the people have no control over it and how it is operated.
You have people watching other people dying on the floors in your hosptials. Dying from massive infections. I read that a hospital had CARPETS on their floors! How ridiculous is that? How do you keep a carpet clean on a daily basis? Floors need to be washed and disinfected EVERYDAY!
There really isn't any need for private clinics because we are all well looked after with the ones we have.
And we do not have "government" doctors or specialists. They all operate on their own. They do not have to discuss their decisions with the insurance companies or the government.
You really should shut up. You like looking stupid?
by Mortarman429 January 4, 2011 2:39 PM EST Erasmus, are you that brain dead not to understand the answer. Maybe I should speak Canadian. Maybe you will understand!
I understand everything. It's you that is the idiot.
"You asked why we have to shop around. It is the same reason we shop for anything. We look for excellence and affordability."
We are talking about LIFE here, not some car. And what you aren't comprehending is that when we go to a hospital, they aren't trying to outdo each other to see who can rip you off for the most money. Every hospital strives for excellence. They don't want people dying from infections and incompetence.
"Again, we got the BEST care possible and in a very timely manner. Sure, we paid a little more for it."
And what you aren't comprehending is that we get the BEST possible care, in a timely manner, AND without having to spend more. You think that you are getting a better quality care because you are spending a fortune, but you aren't. You are just being ripped off.
Life, car...no difference. Not every hospital strives or can meet excellence. Some are better than others, jsut as some doctors are better than others!
You cant have them all the same. Pursuing excellence helps get rid of the slackers. If you are good, people will pay! Which makes you strive to be better.
When I am on the table getting heart surgery (or you are on the table getting brain surgery), we should both want the best damn surgeon that we can afford!! I want my surgeon motivated to be the best, and be paid for being the best. Otherwise, there is no incentive to be the best.
And no you dont. I looked at the wait times in Canada or thyroid cancer surgery. I looked at the availability of MRIs and wait times to have this sports surgery on my son's elbow.
Your healthcare didnt even come close to what we received. Not even close!
I wouldn't put too much trust in what you are reading. I don't think that you are capable of finding the truth. I think Wikipedia is about all you can do.
Here, EVERY hospital strives for excellence. You have too many Private hospitals where the people have no control over who is running them. When it is private, you can count on the quality being bad. It's about MONEY. They get incompetent health care givers and also poor cleanliness. Every hospital here has to meet a certain standard.
I don't know of any long waits for MRIs. My mom was at the doctor on Friday and she is having an MRI today.
by Mortarman429 January 4, 2011 3:08 PM EST Hungry, the meeting was me to give guidance to my financial guys and with a few of my employees on how we would proceed forward on going after that failed business' customers.
I gave my guidance...got some feedback. And now they are in there hashing out the details and will report back to me next week on the results.
Its called business. Something you dont know anything about, Hungry.
by louiville12 January 4, 2011 2:21 PM Canada total tax and non-tax revenue for every level of government equals about 38.4% of GDP,[2] compared to the U.S. rate of 28.2%. (and we are, were fighting TWO wars) what does Canada spend that money on?
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I love how you cherry pick your information so it suits your argument (from Wiki no less) but you tend to leave out very important details
i.e.
Canada's income tax system is more heavily biased against the highest income earners, thus while Canada's income tax rate is higher on average, the bottom fifty percent of the population is roughly taxed the same on income as in the United States.
by Mortarman429 January 4, 2011 2:51 PM EST I went to my meeting genius. And now I'm back. Man. you really are dense!
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LOL yeah, shortest business meeting in history.
Man, you are by far the biggest liar on these boards.
You should apply over at Fox... they have better liars, but you can be trained
Hungry, the meeting was me to give guidance to my financial guys and with a few of my employees on how we would proceed forward on going after that failed business' customers.
I gave my guidance...got some feedback. And now they are in there hashing out the details and will report back to me next week on the results.
Its called business. Something you dont know anything about, Hungry.
by Mortarman429 January 4, 2011 2:22 PM EST Again, business models arent the issue. The issue is looking for a mechanic, a doctor, a vet, a restuarant, etc. We do this because we want to seek excellence...at least as much as we can afford.
That is the type of program we need. Where EVERYONE in the system is about excellence...and seeks profit. Which breeds excellence. But that can only happen without the corruption of government when the government doesnt skew the field as it has for decades.
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Of course you will just ignore the complexity of the real world, in order to think you a making a valid point.
And you wonder why no one in DC cares about your opinion.
BTW, do you now know the name of your Representative you voted for in 2010 that won and is a non-GOP constitutional fundementalist like you claimed yesterday?
Or is this a new day and we shouldn't hold you accountable for anything you said yesterday?
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The one where Issa-the-new-McCarthy asks BUSINESS what regulations they want investigated...
I know several Canadians and none of them have nearly as much political disagreement with their leadership or each other as we do, they seem pretty content with their life.
The USA is a great country, but to people in other countries, it just isn't necessarily the greatest shining light on the hill ever to be seen on planet Earth. That shouldn't be difficult to understand.
As for politics, our world does not revolve around it. We don't eat, sleep and breathe it like you guys. Do you know that I never hear anyone talk about politics? No one knows who anyone else is voting for. In fact we are not stuck to voting for one party, like you guys. We can change who we vote for at any time. Many of us do not particularly like our Prime Minister, but we would not think of bashing him. We have respect for our leader. If we are not happy, then we make sure that we are heard, but there is no viciousness and hatred like the U.S. I'm thinking that maybe the fact that you only have 2 parties might have something to do with that. We have five parties.
by Birdman04 January 4, 2011 5:28 PM EST
They are too busy having fun and being content with their lives to complain about silly things they have little control of.
I think that the reason that we are content is that we DO have more control over things. The government works for the PEOPLE, here. They hear what we are saying. Americans think that the people don't have any control because the government is running things. Not so. We have health care because we CHOOSE to have health care. This kind of health care. I hear no one complaining about it. We don't have guns because we CHOOSE not to have guns. We can have them if we wish, but we choose not to. If we hadn't made that choice, then we would be just like you guys. Living in fear. Not being able to walk down the streets at night. Wondering if your neighbor is going to flip his lid and go on a shooting spree. Having a gun under your pillow in case an intruder comes along.
I'm taking a big breath and giving a great big sigh. And that is what I have been doing for the last 4 years that I have been on CBS. Because of what I read here, I am thankful EVERY SINGLE DAY for what I have.
I concur in Canada THEY tell you where to go right?
WRONG. We can go wherever we like. We can go to whatever hospital we want and we will get the SAME quality in care. Good quality. A particular specialist may operate in only one hospital (possibly more), but I have a choice in which specialist I go to. I have a choice in everything I do.
I can go to any pharmacy and know that I'm not being ripped off. There may be a few dollars difference between them, but that's it. And here, we KNOW that what it says is in that bottle, is indeed what's in that bottle.
"....we are, were fighting TWO wars) what does Canada spend that money on?"
Lots of things. It isn't just health care. How about EDUCATION? Unlike you, we have a good education system. When a person graduates here, they know how to read. All Canadians know how to find themselves on a map. We learn about OTHER countries, not just our own.
Oh, and you aren't the only ones fighting in those two wars!
Oh and "In 2003, under Prime Minister Jean Chr?tien, about a hundred Canadian soldiers, on exchange to American units, participated in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Are you absolutely sure about that? I think maybe you might want to do a bit more research. A lot of people don't even know that there were Canadians in Iraq. It was something that was kept a secret.
"Oh and as far as education goes the US spends more per pupil then Canada does."
Well that's not surprising is it? You pay more for everything and have nothing to show for it. You pay thousands of dollars more for health care and it isn't better than anyone elses. In fact it isn't as good as everyone elses. You pay way more for your meds and there is no guarantee that you are even getting what it says on the bottle.
I wouldn't be bragging that you are paying more for each student because it's a well known fact that your education system sucks. When you have people that are graduating and can't read, people that can't find their country on a map, you've got big problems. I don't know where that money is going, but it ain't going for education.
Oh and "WRONG. We can go wherever we like. you mean as long as it's a government clinic, specialist.... right cuz last I heard if you don't trust them and go to a "private" one it's ALL out of your pocket.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. We do not have "private" clinics. And we do trust our clinics. We have "private" hospitals, but very few. Most people DO NOT go to private hospitals. And do not WANT to go to private hospitals. They want to live! I already told you that if a hospital is private, there is no control over the competence of the health care workers or the cleanliness. Once something becomes private, the people have no control over it and how it is operated.
You have people watching other people dying on the floors in your hosptials. Dying from massive infections. I read that a hospital had CARPETS on their floors! How ridiculous is that? How do you keep a carpet clean on a daily basis? Floors need to be washed and disinfected EVERYDAY!
There really isn't any need for private clinics because we are all well looked after with the ones we have.
And we do not have "government" doctors or specialists. They all operate on their own. They do not have to discuss their decisions with the insurance companies or the government.
You really should shut up. You like looking stupid?
Erasmus, are you that brain dead not to understand the answer. Maybe I should speak Canadian. Maybe you will understand!
I understand everything. It's you that is the idiot.
"You asked why we have to shop around. It is the same reason we shop for anything. We look for excellence and affordability."
We are talking about LIFE here, not some car. And what you aren't comprehending is that when we go to a hospital, they aren't trying to outdo each other to see who can rip you off for the most money. Every hospital strives for excellence. They don't want people dying from infections and incompetence.
"Again, we got the BEST care possible and in a very timely manner. Sure, we paid a little more for it."
And what you aren't comprehending is that we get the BEST possible care, in a timely manner, AND without having to spend more. You think that you are getting a better quality care because you are spending a fortune, but you aren't. You are just being ripped off.
You cant have them all the same. Pursuing excellence helps get rid of the slackers. If you are good, people will pay! Which makes you strive to be better.
When I am on the table getting heart surgery (or you are on the table getting brain surgery), we should both want the best damn surgeon that we can afford!! I want my surgeon motivated to be the best, and be paid for being the best. Otherwise, there is no incentive to be the best.
And no you dont. I looked at the wait times in Canada or thyroid cancer surgery. I looked at the availability of MRIs and wait times to have this sports surgery on my son's elbow.
Your healthcare didnt even come close to what we received. Not even close!
I wouldn't put too much trust in what you are reading. I don't think that you are capable of finding the truth. I think Wikipedia is about all you can do.
Here, EVERY hospital strives for excellence. You have too many Private hospitals where the people have no control over who is running them. When it is private, you can count on the quality being bad. It's about MONEY. They get incompetent health care givers and also poor cleanliness. Every hospital here has to meet a certain standard.
I don't know of any long waits for MRIs. My mom was at the doctor on Friday and she is having an MRI today.
Hungry, the meeting was me to give guidance to my financial guys and with a few of my employees on how we would proceed forward on going after that failed business' customers.
I gave my guidance...got some feedback. And now they are in there hashing out the details and will report back to me next week on the results.
Its called business. Something you dont know anything about, Hungry.
You're FOS - as usual.
Canada total tax and non-tax revenue for every level of government equals about 38.4% of GDP,[2] compared to the U.S. rate of 28.2%. (and we are, were fighting TWO wars) what does Canada spend that money on?
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I love how you cherry pick your information so it suits your argument (from Wiki no less) but you tend to leave out very important details
i.e.
Canada's income tax system is more heavily biased against the highest income earners, thus while Canada's income tax rate is higher on average, the bottom fifty percent of the population is roughly taxed the same on income as in the United States.
I guess they are.
I thought you had to leave to leverage a buyout of your competition and work to get all of their customers?
I guess blogging here is more important to you?
I went to my meeting genius. And now I'm back. Man. you really are dense!
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LOL yeah, shortest business meeting in history.
Man, you are by far the biggest liar on these boards.
You should apply over at Fox... they have better liars, but you can be trained
A 1:30 meeting to buyout the bankrupt competition AND to plan how you're going to keep all of their customers, and you're back in 25 minutes, huh?
And yes, he is the biggest liar.
I gave my guidance...got some feedback. And now they are in there hashing out the details and will report back to me next week on the results.
Its called business. Something you dont know anything about, Hungry.
Erasmus, I was gone for 30 minutes. As you can see, for 30 minutes, I was not on here.
So, you again are wrong...as you always are!
And now...I must leave again!! Work calls.
Yeah, work calls when the heat is on, huh?
Again, business models arent the issue. The issue is looking for a mechanic, a doctor, a vet, a restuarant, etc. We do this because we want to seek excellence...at least as much as we can afford.
That is the type of program we need. Where EVERYONE in the system is about excellence...and seeks profit. Which breeds excellence. But that can only happen without the corruption of government when the government doesnt skew the field as it has for decades.
=====
Of course you will just ignore the complexity of the real world, in order to think you a making a valid point.
And you wonder why no one in DC cares about your opinion.
Or is this a new day and we shouldn't hold you accountable for anything you said yesterday?