Lakota... the DJIA was over 14,000 during the Bush administration. Go back and re write your comment with the facts, not a Liberal bias as you do with all your uneducated facts and rumors.
1renegade, are you even aware of what's happening in the Artic? Do you have any clue? You climate change deniers, who unwittingly work for the biggest offenders of greenhouse emissons--yet the liberals are the ones with an unscrupulous agenda, may scoff and scron the climate models and predictions as well as climate scientists themselves, but you can't deny emperical data can you? You probaly can... I have no idea how you people can claim the Artic ice is increasing when the summertime melt last year was on par with 2006-07. It's alarming! The permafrost is melting which releases methane, and it's being released from the sea floor. Methane is 23 times more efficent at trapping heat in the atmospehere than CO2. In fact, the warming in the Artic may now be more due to methane than CO2. The summertime ice coverage continues to retreat at an alarming rate and exposes the dark water which absorbs even more heat. We're entering a dangerous feedback loop with climate change and you people continue to burry you heads. The Artic is the canary in the coal mine. It's only going to get worse. The question is how quickly will it get worse. If we know anything, we know that the models are insufficient; things are happening much faster than predicted. We can blame 'W' for alot, including denial of the climate change crisis....it is a crisis wether you accept it or not. If we make this planet unfit for civilization as we know it, what do we do? Where do we go? You people on the right put all your climate change eggs in the basket of the one percent of scientists who say what you want to hear. These are the scientists with an agenda: the agenda of the biggest polluters to protect their "right" to pollute. You scorn liberals for wanting to protect our ONLY home, while you merrily go on your way claming all is well. When you finally realize your house is on fire, pray it's not too late for the fire to be put out.
I don't see how a poll this general is useful in anyway. How about doing something like this: Ask for specific information. Here's an example: http://organicconnectmag.com/
It is sad that our president is allowing oil drilling on the shores of many areas of our country. It will cause great harm to the environment and he doesn't seem to care.
So it's okay for other countries to harm their environment for YOU?
And then there is the COST thing. Isn't it way cheaper to drill your own oil?
At least you have a President that actually ACKNOWLEDGES that there is a problem with the environment. Bush spent years hiding it. Bush hired a lawyer to censor what the media put out about global warming. He didn't want the people to know how bad it was.
Methinks it wouldn't have been a stupid idea to prohibit oil drilling in and around America until we really needed it - for the day when cars powered by crude oil become obsolete because we need the crude for plastics.
Rude of me, to think of using other people's oil up first - but this American is in it to win it. The thought of all the world's peoples playing nice-nice together in the interests of mutual survival is beyond my ability to believe, given the presence of so very many righties in this country alone who jump at any and all opportunities to enrich themselves - even when doing so requires the sacrifice of American lives.
lollll....it is difficult for to believe that America has the monopoly on evilly-greedy people; if not for wealth, then for power.
It would be inane to focus heavily on natural causes when they are largely out of our control.
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However, isn't identifying the cause of the slight increase in temperature (+0.6*c over 20 years) the main point ? if you are to deal with it effectively, correctly realizing the causes is important...(all of them, not only man-made).
Do you think regulating Human emissions is "in our control" realistically and practically ? with so many nations (China, Russia, etc.) with no real desire to curb emissions, how is man-made emissions "within your control".....is forcing control over everyone's emissions, the desire of the left ?
I think it's actually funny or ironic, how humans can drive priuses, change to flourescent light bulbs, go to alternative energy, wind, solar, and in one eruption, Mother nature dumps everything back into the environment....everything saved was just negated....so it shows, you have no control, man-made or nature-made....it's to "feel good" that you are or making believe you are, "doing something" even though you aren't.....we are "saving the planet", how dare you get in the way of captain planet
Empire-George said "I think it's actually funny or ironic, how humans can drive priuses, change to flourescent light bulbs, go to alternative energy, wind, solar, and in one eruption, Mother nature dumps everything back into the environment....everything saved was just negated...." === Nonsense. Nothing was negated. Even if the volcano had dumped tons of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere (which I don't think it did), that would be normal, natural activity. We need to keep from adding so much to the natural greenhouse gasses that we change the climate.
This eruption alone will cause sulphuric aerosols to be present and thus lower the temperature for the next decade.
So how does that relate to c02 emissions. It doesn't and it is well known knowledge in the scientific community and will become a talking point in the future. Its also why scientist will not put co2 emmisions as the major cause of global warming.
Not only worse, but we are rapidly approaching the "point of no return" to save the planet, with far too little being done, and the biggest problem we face, being ignored.
Personally, I don't think we will react in time to save the planet, at all.
"...but we are rapidly approaching the "point of no return""
David Suzuki wrote in one of his books that we had almost reached the point of no return, and that was over 10 years ago. I'm thinking we have past it.
If we ALL tried really hard, we might be able to slow it down, but sadly, there are just too many selfish people in this world.
well, duh! world population is increasing, countries are just beginning to come to grips with the problem. this just shows people are finally paying attention.
You religious DENIALISTS continue to take the cake when it comes to parroting the usual rush conservitard talk radio garbage and the FAUX NoNooz network propaganda, since the republiCON party has waged a WAR on science for political reasons for decades!
Get a grib Lakota........you lefties are so emotional. From my perspective, environmental engineering consulting, air quality is better and ground water is better than it has been in a very long time even considering the human population explosion. I will qualify that by saying that statement is true in America, not sure about other industrialized countries and forget about third world countries..........which catagory do you think China fall into!?
Of course, nothing is wrong with how we are living. That smokey substance that main stream media call smog is actually a composition of low lying clouds that will soon produce rainbows to leprechaun land.
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And then there is the COST thing. Isn't it way cheaper to drill your own oil?
At least you have a President that actually ACKNOWLEDGES that there is a problem with the environment. Bush spent years hiding it. Bush hired a lawyer to censor what the media put out about global warming. He didn't want the people to know how bad it was.
Rude of me, to think of using other people's oil up first - but this American is in it to win it. The thought of all the world's peoples playing nice-nice together in the interests of mutual survival is beyond my ability to believe, given the presence of so very many righties in this country alone who jump at any and all opportunities to enrich themselves - even when doing so requires the sacrifice of American lives.
lollll....it is difficult for to believe that America has the monopoly on evilly-greedy people; if not for wealth, then for power.
Hmmmm, I wonder why that is? Maybe because men live in more denial. That and they don't want to have to give up their SUVs and BBQ!
And the rich, well, they just don't want to give up anything.
It would be inane to focus heavily on natural causes when they are largely out of our control.
_____________
However, isn't identifying the cause of the slight increase in temperature (+0.6*c over 20 years) the main point ? if you are to deal with it effectively, correctly realizing the causes is important...(all of them, not only man-made).
Do you think regulating Human emissions is "in our control" realistically and practically ? with so many nations (China, Russia, etc.) with no real desire to curb emissions, how is man-made emissions "within your control".....is forcing control over everyone's emissions, the desire of the left ?
I think it's actually funny or ironic, how humans can drive priuses, change to flourescent light bulbs, go to alternative energy, wind, solar, and in one eruption, Mother nature dumps everything back into the environment....everything saved was just negated....so it shows, you have no control, man-made or nature-made....it's to "feel good" that you are or making believe you are, "doing something" even though you aren't.....we are "saving the planet", how dare you get in the way of captain planet
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Nonsense. Nothing was negated.
Even if the volcano had dumped tons of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere (which I don't think it did), that would be normal, natural activity. We need to keep from adding so much to the natural greenhouse gasses that we change the climate.
So how does that relate to c02 emissions. It doesn't and it is well known knowledge in the scientific community and will become a talking point in the future. Its also why scientist will not put co2 emmisions as the major cause of global warming.
Personally, I don't think we will react in time to save the planet, at all.
"...but we are rapidly approaching the "point of no return""
David Suzuki wrote in one of his books that we had almost reached the point of no return, and that was over 10 years ago. I'm thinking we have past it.
If we ALL tried really hard, we might be able to slow it down, but sadly, there are just too many selfish people in this world.
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