"In a collection by three national surveys conducted by the republican-leaning Winston Group......13% said they were Democrats." ---------------------------------
So, a republiCON group skews their biased surveys enough to squeeze a whole 13% out of a rabid fringe extremist group of teabaggin' fools, and this is supposed to be relevant?
Many fiscal conservitard republiCONS have indeed been afraid to be identified as belonging to any party -- even the GOP -- but just because they call themselves "independents," certainly does not make them highly-partisan voters for MORE OF THE SAME republiCON lunacy. It's truly a political climate against incumbents, but to put the miNOrity party of NO that gave us the economic catastrophe we find ourselves in today back into power after voting them out in 2006/2008, is sheer ignorance!
Actually, rounding-off the above headline from the republiCON-leaning Winston Group of skewed surveys, makes it 1 in 10 being Dems and 3 in 10 being "independents," which is still hard to believe from a rabid fringe extremist group of racist bigots!
I've asked this before, and I'll ask it again. To the Tea Partiers, what would you have done to solve the Financial Meltdown from 2008? Do you want to keep de-regulating these industries? How will you address rising healthcare costs? How about unemployment? Well, please tell us.
Come now jim, the teabaggin' fools would still support the usual conservitard ideology of "trickle-down" economic lunacy that has been proven time and time again to be a complete failure, to solve everything -- especially the unemployment problem -- since we saw how well that worked for the busheviks in their 2003 "jobs and growth" legislation which heralded in our first JOBLESS RECOVERY!
Rather than giving failing companies billions of dollars and letting them reward their greatest failures: payout to everyone over the age of 58 $1M with the stipulation they have to retire. Millions of job openings would become available to those seeking them; money would BE in the economy to actually stimulate the economy.
(2) Health care costs are simple to control- CONTROL by capping the amount of money ALL health care agencies, companies, etc. can CHARGE to begin with- including insurance companies. Instill a national health care system like Australia has and fund it with a 1.5% mandatory tax taken from EVERY check issued for payment of wages, welfare and retirement. Those who want to use the system can and those who don't want to use the system can opt for a private insurance that would be charging REASONABLE rates under the new cap guidelines.
(3) Welfare (not that you asked but I will tell you anyway), make one simple change to the welfare system- EVERY TIME a welfare recipient has a child or adds another "farmed out dependent" to ANY of their "welfare accounts" (i.e. food stamps, housing allowance, etc.) welfare checks AND benefits go DOWN rather than UP. STOP allowing them to breed generations of lazy couch potatoes.
These 3 simply changes could in all practicality stimulate the economy. By giving out the retirement monies you stimulate all the travel industry; hiring the unemployed in replace the retirees stimulates the essential markets- groceries, retail and housing; the amount of money being spent on health care now verses the amount on a controlled system would in all likelihood stimulate the luxury markets i.e. new cars and antiques while most assuredly it would stimulate home town spending at all levels.
Now- I ask you the same thing you asked me, jimbom121.
a). What did you Doomed Dem?s DO to actually stimulate the economy other than hand over billions of dollars to a very selected group of elite companies who were allowed to give 90% of that ?recovery? money to their CEO?s? b). How did you actually LOWER health care COSTS by handing over guaranteed sales to insurance companies? c). What did you DO to stimulate the job market other than opening up 3 CEO?s positions and 20 positions with the First Lady?s staff?
I agree with the notion that the government should be fiscally responsible and make efforts/take actions to reduce the deficit and irresponsible spending. However, I have not read or heard members of the TEA party who are willing to swallow that pill. I'm one of the biggest Dave Ramsey fans, so I'm against debt. So, those, (including me) who are really about living responsibly and spending only what we have should put our "money where our mouths are" and get serious about it. If they want to repeal the recent health care legislation, they should also repeal Medicare and Medicaid and work towards substantive reform that is financially sustainable. Don't half step or play with it.
The tea party folks will get rid of these tax and spend democrats who are taking away our individual rights. Just look at the health care bill which forces everyone to have health insurance(Obama and the health insurance companies are happy with this). It will mean thousand of IRS agents looking into our health coverage and fine us up to 2.5% of our income.
They are idiots. The Cons have had control of the White House, and Congress and look where it got us. Insanity is doing the same thing (voting Repub) over and over and expecting different results.
The glaring statistic that everyone overlooks is 10 out of 10 Tea Party members are white. I'm not saying every one of these folks is racist, but when you see the faces in the crowd and the hateful diatribe, it's obvious a good percentage are.
No they actually are a DIVERSE cross section of the US population with a skew to a little more wealthy and a little more male.
http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/assets_c/2010/04/Tea%20partiers%20Gallup-24176.php
The Associated Press reviewed tea party chapters across the country, interviewing dozens of local organizers as well as Democratic and Republican strategists to produce a portrait of the movement to date -- and its prospects for tipping congressional elections this fall. Though it's far too early for any long-term verdict on the tea party -- even defining what short-term success would be for its members can be a challenge -- the AP found that:
--The embryonic movement is not as much a force that drives public opinion as a reflection of it.
--Local chapters are underfunded, loosely aligned and often at odds with one another.
--The lack of a single leader, issue or strategic goal sets them apart from most politically potent movements.
America's tea party is a hodgepodge of barely affiliated groups, a home to the politically homeless, a fast-growing swath of citizens who are frustrated with Washington, their own state capitals and both major political parties. Most describe themselves as conservatives or libertarians. They rarely identify themselves as Democrats.
If the stereotype fits, report it. The tea party folx are all Republicans that are too proud to admit they are Republicans. Pride is the downfall of the GOP.
People who voted for Republicans are angry right now. The Republican Party has been fooling people into voting for them for decades despite their inability to deliver policies or laws that parallel the wishes of the majority of the constituency. If you are rich people then it makes sense that you would vote for Republicans because they will at any cost fight for the lowering of taxes for rich people, but aside from rich people Republicans do very little to improve the lives of average Americans.
How is it that Republicans get elected at all? What kind of fools would vote for somebody that cares so little for governing?
It seems every cultural position a Republican takes in public is meant to simply intensify and manipulate the emotions of people. They seem willing and able to find and exploit Americans who still think battles long lost are still being waged. Republicans of today are master manipulators of information and, they unfortunately for America, have powerful media corporations and lobbyist behind their cynical displays of misinformation and false hopes of resurrecting battles long lost to reasonable public policy and law. Republicans don?t make public policy to improve the lives of average Americans, they gain government positions to improve the situations of those who give them the most money and they gain positions of power by simply creating and manipulating public opinion facilitated by monies received.
People often discount our political system as broken but I believe this disputatious. There are huge differences between the Democrats and Republicans. I believe any American given the facts will come to find that Republicans of today have very little in mind when it comes to protecting liberty and justice for the majority in our country despite them using those words more than anybody.
I?m not going to let Republicans sell my country to the highest bidder. Democrats get my vote for years to come. I believe that Democrats are made up of the people who believe in liberty and justice for all Americans.
For me voting is like driving, vote R to go backwards, vote D to go forwards.
Not at all, but you if you think Republicans are the answer, just look to the last 8 years or even the Reagan years, massive spending and debt, more government, very little jobs and no leadership. The point is, of the two parties, Democrats are slightly better, but if there was a choice, it would be better to have independents, which won't happen. And, the second point is, the Tea Party movement shouldn't be inline with Republicans or Democrats, yet they are aligning themselves with the Republican party, sheer ignorance.
Yes. a whole lot of thinking is required to figure out that it is the D's who stand for what I do most of the time.
Democrats are pro-choice, pro-consumer, pro-education, pro-civil liberties, pro-net-neutrality, pro-healthcare, pro-gay rights, pro-environment, anti poverty, anti Iraq war, anti trying to teach our kids ID in science class rooms.
The way I see it Conservatives lost and the American people won.
Thank you too all who made it happen!
HealthCare:
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act:
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act:
Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure Act:
Children's Health Insurance Reauthor-ization Act:
Weapons System Acquisition Reform Act:
Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act:
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So, a republiCON group skews their biased surveys enough to squeeze a whole 13% out of a rabid fringe extremist group of teabaggin' fools, and this is supposed to be relevant?
Many fiscal conservitard republiCONS have indeed been afraid to be identified as belonging to any party -- even the GOP -- but just because they call themselves "independents," certainly does not make them highly-partisan voters for MORE OF THE SAME republiCON lunacy. It's truly a political climate against incumbents, but to put the miNOrity party of NO that gave us the economic catastrophe we find ourselves in today back into power after voting them out in 2006/2008, is sheer ignorance!
(2) Health care costs are simple to control- CONTROL by capping the amount of money ALL health care agencies, companies, etc. can CHARGE to begin with- including insurance companies. Instill a national health care system like Australia has and fund it with a 1.5% mandatory tax taken from EVERY check issued for payment of wages, welfare and retirement. Those who want to use the system can and those who don't want to use the system can opt for a private insurance that would be charging REASONABLE rates under the new cap guidelines.
(3) Welfare (not that you asked but I will tell you anyway), make one simple change to the welfare system- EVERY TIME a welfare recipient has a child or adds another "farmed out dependent" to ANY of their "welfare accounts" (i.e. food stamps, housing allowance, etc.) welfare checks AND benefits go DOWN rather than UP. STOP allowing them to breed generations of lazy couch potatoes.
These 3 simply changes could in all practicality stimulate the economy. By giving out the retirement monies you stimulate all the travel industry; hiring the unemployed in replace the retirees stimulates the essential markets- groceries, retail and housing; the amount of money being spent on health care now verses the amount on a controlled system would in all likelihood stimulate the luxury markets i.e. new cars and antiques while most assuredly it would stimulate home town spending at all levels.
Now- I ask you the same thing you asked me, jimbom121.
a). What did you Doomed Dem?s DO to actually stimulate the economy other than hand over billions of dollars to a very selected group of elite companies who were allowed to give 90% of that ?recovery? money to their CEO?s?
b). How did you actually LOWER health care COSTS by handing over guaranteed sales to insurance companies?
c). What did you DO to stimulate the job market other than opening up 3 CEO?s positions and 20 positions with the First Lady?s staff?
The premise is misleading here.
And no there will not be thousands of IRS agents...that is another right wing myth.
Yeah, I'm as surprised as you are. But it's not a statistic "everybody" is overlooking, it's a statistic that is false.
http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/assets_c/2010/04/Tea%20partiers%20Gallup-24176.php
--The embryonic movement is not as much a force that drives public opinion as a reflection of it.
--Local chapters are underfunded, loosely aligned and often at odds with one another.
--The lack of a single leader, issue or strategic goal sets them apart from most politically potent movements.
America's tea party is a hodgepodge of barely affiliated groups, a home to the politically homeless, a fast-growing swath of citizens who are frustrated with Washington, their own state capitals and both major political parties. Most describe themselves as conservatives or libertarians. They rarely identify themselves as Democrats.
If the stereotype fits, report it. The tea party folx are all Republicans that are too proud to admit they are Republicans. Pride is the downfall of the GOP.
People who voted for Republicans are angry right now. The Republican Party has been fooling people into voting for them for decades despite their inability to deliver policies or laws that parallel the wishes of the majority of the constituency. If you are rich people then it makes sense that you would vote for Republicans because they will at any cost fight for the lowering of taxes for rich people, but aside from rich people Republicans do very little to improve the lives of average Americans.
How is it that Republicans get elected at all? What kind of fools would vote for somebody that cares so little for governing?
It seems every cultural position a Republican takes in public is meant to simply intensify and manipulate the emotions of people. They seem willing and able to find and exploit Americans who still think battles long lost are still being waged. Republicans of today are master manipulators of information and, they unfortunately for America, have powerful media corporations and lobbyist behind their cynical displays of misinformation and false hopes of resurrecting battles long lost to reasonable public policy and law. Republicans don?t make public policy to improve the lives of average Americans, they gain government positions to improve the situations of those who give them the most money and they gain positions of power by simply creating and manipulating public opinion facilitated by monies received.
People often discount our political system as broken but I believe this disputatious. There are huge differences between the Democrats and Republicans. I believe any American given the facts will come to find that Republicans of today have very little in mind when it comes to protecting liberty and justice for the majority in our country despite them using those words more than anybody.
I?m not going to let Republicans sell my country to the highest bidder. Democrats get my vote for years to come. I believe that Democrats are made up of the people who believe in liberty and justice for all Americans.
For me voting is like driving, vote R to go backwards, vote D to go forwards.
Democrats are pro-choice, pro-consumer, pro-education, pro-civil liberties, pro-net-neutrality, pro-healthcare, pro-gay rights, pro-environment, anti poverty, anti Iraq war, anti trying to teach our kids ID in science class rooms.
The way I see it Conservatives lost and the American people won.
Thank you too all who made it happen!
HealthCare:
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act:
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act:
Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure Act:
Children's Health Insurance Reauthor-ization Act:
Weapons System Acquisition Reform Act:
Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act:
Keep on truckin Dems.
Next Up:
Nuclear arms agreement.
Banking reforms.