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by U-R-So-Wrong May 4, 2009 8:03 PM EDT
Having a democracy and a parliament does not give anyone (including Israel and the US) the right to murder civilians, use illegal weapons and do war crimes and steal land and oil.

The US and Israel are the world's biggest sponsors of state terrorism. We can't fix it until we realize the problem. Ban AIPAC (and if that means getting rid of half of Congress so be it). Posted by noloyalisti


I wonder if the Judenrat -- those ghetto Jews who collaborated with the Nazis in order to delay their own execution -- would be glad to endorse your style of politics.
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by U-R-So-Wrong May 4, 2009 8:01 PM EDT
UR s Wrong, I thought Israel was a Jewish State. And if Israel does not find a two states solution, and the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are able to vote it will be the end of the Jewish State. And as for Israel being a free press. Check your facts. Israel was just downgraded to partly free because of its censorship of the their press, and restrictions of movement in Gaza during the Operation Lead Caste. Oh and before Israel bomb Iran and have the U.S. in another war why don't they eliminate their illegal nuclear weapons!! Posted by abpld


Tell me the name of a Muslim-majority state that would have half of the secular freedoms enjoyed by a range of people of different backgrounds in Israel today.

There is a willful denial of reality in a great many posts here, and I wonder if some who author these posts are on salary.
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by noloyalisti May 4, 2009 7:58 PM EDT
Having a democracy and a parliament does not give anyone (including Israel and the US) the right to murder civilians, use illegal weapons and do war crimes and steal land and oil.

The US and Israel are the world's biggest sponsors of state terrorism. We can't fix it until we realize the problem. Ban AIPAC (and if that means getting rid of half of Congress so be it).
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by abpld May 4, 2009 6:34 PM EDT
It would not be the end of the Jewish State right now, but Palestinians are having much more children then Jewish Israelis. So The United States is looking out for Israel as far as a two state solution unless Israel plans on committing genocide or just driving them all out or having permanent Apartheid which won't last. Face up to the fact that some of Israel's problems are their own making, and with out the U.S. direction they will never have any security in the Middle East.
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by abpld May 4, 2009 6:23 PM EDT
UR s Wrong, I thought Israel was a Jewish State. And if Israel does not find a two states solution, and the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are able to vote it will be the end of the Jewish State. And as for Israel being a free press. Check your facts. Israel was just downgraded to partly free because of its censorship of the their press, and restrictions of movement in Gaza during the Operation Lead Caste. Oh and before Israel bomb Iran and have the U.S. in another war why don't they eliminate their illegal nuclear weapons!!
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by U-R-So-Wrong May 4, 2009 5:20 PM EDT
Let's try to focus: Israel = parliamentary republic, multi-party political system, multi-ethnic citizens, multi-religious sacred institutions, refugees from dictatorships in Europe and the Near East, free press, private property.

Not Israel = kings, generals, presidents-for-life, mystic rulers, one-party rule, ethocentrism, theocratic, sided with the Nazis during WW2, no free press, private property if they feel like it.

Easy to understand why some people on this site complain about the US "taking orders" from Israel.
If you don't like the US, you don't like it's small version either.
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by johninpennsyl May 4, 2009 5:14 PM EDT
I think that only Israel should be allowed to have nuclear capabilities,they are the only ones who can be trusted not to harm civilians or bully people who can't defend themselves.
They have proven themselves time and again to be good neighbors,and I think that America should continue to give them shameful amounts of money and weapons to promote the general welfare.
What lousy Nazi would say this isn't true?
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by abpld May 4, 2009 5:09 PM EDT
Why do we constantly take orders from Israel whether it is in the U.S. interest or not. Much of Israel's policies is not even in the interest of Israel. Bomb Iran. What good will that do besides delay their nuclear program, and encourage extremist sentiment in Iran's younger more secular population. Even their war in Gaza was a disaster. Hamas is still bombing, was made to look like the victim, and over 900 civilian dead Palestinians dead has encouraged more extremism in the region. Is the far right BIBI the U.S. President of Barrack Obama.
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by U-R-So-Wrong May 4, 2009 4:55 PM EDT
If I was Israel and doing genocide and crimes against humanity, I would be concerned too. From another "self-hating" Jew for justice in Palestine. Posted by noloyalisti


The self-hating Jew is the Jihadist's best friend -- except for the unrepentant Nazi.
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by noloyalisti May 4, 2009 4:39 PM EDT
If I was Israel and doing genocide and crimes against humanity, I would be concerned too. From another "self-hating" Jew for justice in Palestine.
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