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by redbds December 17, 2008 7:04 PM EST
I don''''t care who this act represents - it was a protest, an insult, and free speech - and as such does not deserve any jail time.

Posted by SusanHelit at 03:57 PM : Dec 17, 2008

Disrespect is a crime in Iraq, little miss know it all. Let''s say that your neighbor tries to run you over with his car but misses and you are not hurt. When the police come to arrest him, he says that he did it as a protest to the ignorant posts you put on the CBS news website and that he was only exercising his free speech. The police don''t charge him. Would that be alright with you?
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by notblue December 17, 2008 7:03 PM EST
liberalme, why is it you libs believe that America is no longer respected in the world? it would be nice to actually heresome statistics or facts for a change. Do you realize America is the most immigrated too country in the world? There is a fact for you, explain if what you alledge is true how that fact can be?
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by notblue December 17, 2008 7:00 PM EST
Susanhekt, who speaks for the millions of civiliansthat Sadam commiteed genicide on? Or are you only interested in speaking for those thathate America and Bush? What do you think of the twelve million Iraqis that voted for freedom? Is there voice, their vote, worth protecting? How does your support of this man promote the beleifs of those who voted for freedom? Just curious.
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by susanhelit December 17, 2008 7:00 PM EST
For assault - an exceeedingly minor assault not intended to cause any serious harm - for that he can get a few months at most - not TORTURED.

The fact that the court is hiding it''s procedings, that he''s supposedly admitting everything in these hidden proceedings where his family, employer, and attorneys are not allowed, that a day after the gov''t said he''d be in court in public to show he hasn''t been being tortured, he''s suddenly not showing up in court - that should concern everyone with an interest in justice. Justice applies to everyone, including those we disagree with.
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by redbds December 17, 2008 6:58 PM EST
Thank God the election is over---perhaps we can generate some sanity in this country and regain the respect and trust we''''ve always had from most other countries.

Posted by liberalme at 03:52 PM : Dec 17, 2008

Ha ha ha ha. That is hilarious. With the liberals in charge we will no longer be feared. When our enemies stop fearing us we will really be in for a mess. I seriously don''t think things are going to get better with dems in charge. Respect can only be maintained if we are feared.
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by susanhelit December 17, 2008 6:57 PM EST
I don''t care who this act represents - it was a protest, an insult, and free speech - and as such does not deserve any jail time.

It was also a very minor assault, and he should be punished for that - but I don''t see ''disrespect'' as any type of crime, and I find it a juvenile thought process for those who do. Doesn''t matter if it''s a good guy or a bad guy, freedom of speech, and a right to your own opinion apply to EVERYONE. Especially those we disagree with.



As it happens though - I don''t disagree with him at all. He spoke up for the civilians killed at our hands - and there are many. He spoke up against our horrible management of this war - and it has cost the Iraqi people dearly. He was right. He may have other agendas I don''t agree with - but what he said here - that was right.


And torture is always wrong. Throw a shoe, get tortured - who on earth is so unbalanced as to think that way? Except the type of idiots who also understand and agree with the reasoning of "He dissed me, so I killed him" - the reasoning of disproportionate response as OK for me, but not for them.
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by redbds December 17, 2008 6:54 PM EST
I hate that stupid word - "Aww, he dissed me, so I killed him." What kind of idiots consider ''''disrespect'''' anything worth an out of proportion punishment, let alone anything to get the courts involved in. It''''s a childish reaction to someone not liking you. Grow up! The world is large, not everyone will agree with your actions. And that''''s their right.

Posted by SusanHelit at 03:48 PM : Dec 17, 2008

He certainly has a right to dislike the President, the American people and anything else that he wants to. He is free to show his disrespect. But, when that disrespect is an assault, then it has crossed the line. This type of behavior should not be allowed to go unpunished. To do so would set a precidence. We simply cannot allow shoes to be thrown everytime we disagree with or dialike someone. There would be shoes flying all over the place if we do.
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by liberalme December 17, 2008 6:52 PM EST
liberalme, it''''s time to join the world of reality, the move.on propoghanda has served it''''s purpose the election is over.



Posted by notblue at 03:45 PM :

I don''t subscribe to any of those websites such as move on--I am only interested in facts, justice and truth.
One is only ignorant not to see and read all the facts--God knows they''re all over the media--anywhere you look---except Faux news.

Thank God the election is over---perhaps we can generate some sanity in this country and regain the respect and trust we''ve always had from most other countries.
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by notblue December 17, 2008 6:50 PM EST
Susanhelit, his dispicable act does not represent Iraq or it''s new Government. This hater represents a small band of thugs, a minority controlled by Al Sadre. Is it possible for you to understand that very important fact. If so, then re-read your post and tell us what sense and what valid point you are attempting to make.
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by susanhelit December 17, 2008 6:48 PM EST
Oh, and I have nothing but contempt for anyone who finds a ''dis'' or ''disrespect'' anything that should put someone in jail! How sick is that. Respect is EARNED, not given, and if he doesn''t feel we deserve it, that our president doesn''t deserve it, if he wants to speak out against him, that''s as much his right as anyone else''s.

I hate that stupid word - "Aww, he dissed me, so I killed him." What kind of idiots consider ''disrespect'' anything worth an out of proportion punishment, let alone anything to get the courts involved in. It''s a childish reaction to someone not liking you. Grow up! The world is large, not everyone will agree with your actions. And that''s their right.
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by notblue December 17, 2008 6:45 PM EST
liberalme, it''s time to join the world of reality, the move.on propoghanda has served it''s purpose the election is over.
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by susanhelit December 17, 2008 6:45 PM EST
It was a protest and an insult - and freedom of speech should apply to that. Doubly so since he''s got a good reason to be upset with us - we''ve killed civilians, disrupted his country, destabilized it enough to kill many thousands more, tortured people - and he reports on all of it - he knows what is going on.

It''s also a very minor assault - not intended to cause any real physical harm - but at the worst, he could have caused a bruise. A few months at most of jail is all he should be up for.

But instead, it seems this new government we''ve given Iraq, the government we''ll be judged on, is torturing this journalist! The politicians claim otherwise, say you''ll see him in court - then they hide him away, have a secret hearing where, whaddya know, he admits to everything and rejects lawyers, and where he and any injuries he may have been given, cannot be seen by the public! This is wrong, and we should be standing against it!
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by redbds December 17, 2008 6:42 PM EST
He disrespected the US! He disrespected every American that died to gove him the freedom to speek out. He disrespected you, me and every other American. Posted by redbds at 03:09 PM : Dec 17, 2008

I gather you STILL have not enlisted? Posted by ibsteve2u

I served in Iraq, if you must know. I am also a veteran of the first Gulf War. What does your service record look like? What exactly does your question have to do with my post, anyway?
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by liberalme December 17, 2008 6:41 PM EST
Yeah, the three families in my hometown that have lost Sons in Iraq don''''t feel the same as you, as they still support Bush.



Posted by promaclaura at 03:23

That''s their way of justifying the needless deaths of their sons.

The Iraq war has been proven time and time again to have been based on greed and a lie--the Bush manufactured war has cost the lives over 4000 troops and hundreds of thousands of people, may his soul rot in heII.
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by promaclaura December 17, 2008 6:33 PM EST
THOSE 3 FAMILIES OF YOUR HOMETOWN....


SO OBVIOUS THAT THEY DO NOT LOVE THEIR SONS


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Posted by signtwo at 03:29 PM : Dec 17, 2008

You''re sick, those men joined after 9/11 and their parents only supported their decision. The town lined the streets for their funeral processions in droves and I was one of them, we believe they died honorably.
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by notblue December 17, 2008 6:32 PM EST
signtwo, who are you to say that the parents of those veterans do not love them????? Because they don''t believe in your extreme leftwing ideology? Typical lib!
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by promaclaura December 17, 2008 6:31 PM EST
Why is it when one Al Sadre sympathizer throws his shoes at Bush the libs feel that act represents the twelve million Iraqis that voted against Al Sadre''''s ideology? Because the libs message is the same as Al Sadre''''s! That should make you libs proud to know that you and Muqtada are on the same page! What a bunch of hters and ingrates. Both Al Sadre''''s group and the leftwing of America are joined in their hatred for Bush, I''''m sure that makes you libs proud!


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Posted by notblue at 03:26 PM : Dec 17, 2008

I agree, it''s rabid dog frothing at the mouth, what a burden to carry. I''m glad that I don''t hate Bush, it''s very "freeing" to not let that emotion control my life and viewpoint.
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by notblue December 17, 2008 6:26 PM EST
Why is it when one Al Sadre sympathizer throws his shoes at Bush the libs feel that act represents the twelve million Iraqis that voted against Al Sadre''s ideology? Because the libs message is the same as Al Sadre''s! That should make you libs proud to know that you and Muqtada are on the same page! What a bunch of hters and ingrates. Both Al Sadre''s group and the leftwing of America are joined in their hatred for Bush, I''m sure that makes you libs proud!
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by promaclaura December 17, 2008 6:23 PM EST
Yeah, too bad his aim was off--our troops have been hit with bigger and harder missiles than a shoe and didn''''t live to tell about it.


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Posted by liberalme at 03:20 PM : Dec 17, 2008

Yeah, the three families in my hometown that have lost Sons in Iraq don''t feel the same as you, as they still support Bush.
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by excoachken December 17, 2008 6:20 PM EST
Hey Bailoutcon: What''s all your "hate Bush" stuff about, other than just trying to change the subject? I don''t give a rat''s patoot about that moron, except that he now shows his true colors and selfishness by having a guy sent to prison because he spoke out to disagrees ----- with personal loss as a base for that disagreement. Do you really respect Bussssh for doing that?
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