Democracy Now! did an interview this morning with Jeff Sharlet who has written about right wing extremism in the US. He talked about Breivik's political ideology and extremism in both the US and Europe. Here's the link: http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/27/norwegian_shooting_suspects_views_echo_xenophobia
The lunatic fringe on the right
Is to reason a serious blight.
They rant and they rave.
About who god should save,
Then kill women and children on sight.
I read a reported tag the gunman as a 'Christian" which is about as irresponsible as journalism gets. A 'Christian' is a person who follows the teachings of the Christ (Jesus). Since Jesus taught 'Love your Enemies' - which is the exact opposite of what occurred in Norway - he obviously is not a Christian. Irresponsible because the Muslim world reads this and believes that Christians teach murdering their own people to motivate them to murder others. Why spark a lie to get them to hate Christians? Western children also read this & develop a twisted understanding of Christianity. What the gunman did is more akin to the Nazi technique of bullying and terrifying a people into murdering others. THINK before you publish nonsense!
Actually, I do blame 9/11 on islam. The problem is that the radical right in this country consists of people who are too clueless to see how closely they are related to the fascist hordes of islam.
The christian right in this country, along with the tea-b*ggers and gop in general pursue a similar agenda to the mohammadans.
*religious intolerance
*visceral responses to beliefs other than their own
*violence against non-believers
*conspiracy theories
*abject stupidity
*clear and unabiding ignorance (just check out agnus dei)
All religions, by their nature, are bad. They promote a belief in superstition that can serve to stunt the advancement of any society. We can only hope that the right wing morons (rwm's) in this country do not resort to the kind of action the nordic loon engaged in.
Wasn't in the midst of a depression, when Hilter and Nazism came into their power????? What if Prez. Obama and the Democrats are attempting to create a depression in the USA? What will happen?
There's no sense in accusing all right-wing individuals of being like this man. He's the criminal. You can no more blame this on all right-wingers than you can blame 9-11 on all Muslims. I don't think there are many of that political persuasion who are happy with what this man did.
While I never expect the perpetrators of such heinous acts to ever make sense, this is so irrational that it lacks any inernal consistency. For example:
(1) He hates Muslims so he murders non-Muslims;
(2) He hates the government's policy so he attacks a non-government target (the youth camp);
(3) He hates immigrants so he murders Norwegians; (4) He attacks Norwegians so (which will cause them to rally around each other) so they will foment a revolution; and
(5) He expects to draw Norwegian sympathizers for murdering a bunch of Norwegian kids?
No one will ever be able to make any sense of this demented mind. He's just evil.
The Roman Republic (really an oligarchy) fell because violence became an increasiingly frequent method of political action. That is not a good place to go. Has Ceaser crossed the Rubicon yet?
Actually, the main reason that the Roman Empire fell was because of immigration. Eventually the Roman army consisted of mostly non-Romans. As the situation grew worse, they ceded more and more land to non-Romans in exchange for fighting for the Roman Empire. By historical standards political violence was the norm.
Why the Roman Empire fall??? "In ancient Rome they felt so free, doing what comes naturally, they were so busy being merry ones that they didn't notice the barabarians..." Freedom isn't free, you have to pay the price, you got to sacrifice for your liberty!
agnes and the rest are doing exactly what republicans and fox have done in this country for years. Either lie or spew misinformation through ingnorance. agnus, the Roman views towards sex were pretty much the same throughout the 1,000 years of Rome existence (from about 5 - 600 bc to 475 ad. In fact, you can make a better argument that the arrival and ascendancy of chrisitanity did more to destroy the empire.
jaryh, you are in the same boat. Throughout Roman history, the Romans incorporated "barbarians" into the society, and created a mechanism for them to become Roman citizens. Initially, it was people in the Italian peninsula. However, it continued to the middle east, Gaul, and even some of the Germanic areas. Many emperors were not even born in Italy (and I'm not talking about the 4th and 5th centuries).
The two of you would be quite happy in a theocracy like saudi arabia, or perhaps in nazi germany. In both cases you would live in harmony with like minded individuals.
A senseless, horrible act! One would wonder though, why we don't see comments like this when the hard left in this country supports CAIR and ISNA, who are unindicted co-conspirators in terrorism financing? It has come out that the only reason that they aren't indicted is because Eric Holder thwarted their prosecution...
There is no doubt that the hard left has courted these groups for years and there is proof of terrorism involvement... Yet, the left would tell you don't be ridiculous&
There is no involvement of conservatives in this country, yet the left would try to associate them with a heinous act... They did the same thing when the congressman from Arizona was shot... They constantly try to paint conservatives as racists, even going so far as having congressmen in Washington accuse the TEA party of racial slurs at a rally... Of course it wasn't captured on camera, even though they were surrounded by them... How many times have we heard that people oppose Obama just because he's a black man???
I have no respect left for the hard left in this country&
Extremists are the same, left or right. Christian or Muslim. I have no respect for extremists, of either political party. Polarization has crippled out government. Compromise is viewed as weakness. SAD!
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Here's the link:
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/27/norwegian_shooting_suspects_views_echo_xenophobia
Is to reason a serious blight.
They rant and they rave.
About who god should save,
Then kill women and children on sight.
The christian right in this country, along with the tea-b*ggers and gop in general pursue a similar agenda to the mohammadans.
*religious intolerance
*visceral responses to beliefs other than their own
*violence against non-believers
*conspiracy theories
*abject stupidity
*clear and unabiding ignorance (just check out agnus dei)
All religions, by their nature, are bad. They promote a belief in superstition that can serve to stunt the advancement of any society. We can only hope that the right wing morons (rwm's) in this country do not resort to the kind of action the nordic loon engaged in.
by Former_Marine_Sgt July 24, 2011 12:50 PM EDT
If so, I think I'd like to take 2012 off, for holiday. Do omen's take holidays off?
(1) He hates Muslims so he murders non-Muslims;
(2) He hates the government's policy so he attacks a non-government target (the youth camp);
(3) He hates immigrants so he murders Norwegians;
(4) He attacks Norwegians so (which will cause them to rally around each other) so they will foment a revolution; and
(5) He expects to draw Norwegian sympathizers for murdering a bunch of Norwegian kids?
No one will ever be able to make any sense of this demented mind. He's just evil.
jaryh, you are in the same boat. Throughout Roman history, the Romans incorporated "barbarians" into the society, and created a mechanism for them to become Roman citizens. Initially, it was people in the Italian peninsula. However, it continued to the middle east, Gaul, and even some of the Germanic areas. Many emperors were not even born in Italy (and I'm not talking about the 4th and 5th centuries).
The two of you would be quite happy in a theocracy like saudi arabia, or perhaps in nazi germany. In both cases you would live in harmony with like minded individuals.
There is no doubt that the hard left has courted these groups for years and there is proof of terrorism involvement... Yet, the left would tell you don't be ridiculous&
There is no involvement of conservatives in this country, yet the left would try to associate them with a heinous act... They did the same thing when the congressman from Arizona was shot... They constantly try to paint conservatives as racists, even going so far as having congressmen in Washington accuse the TEA party of racial slurs at a rally... Of course it wasn't captured on camera, even though they were surrounded by them... How many times have we heard that people oppose Obama just because he's a black man???
I have no respect left for the hard left in this country&