Comments on: The Republican Party Has Lost Its Way

Tea Party Protests Were Welcome Sign Against Big Government Spending

[skyk-2009]

"Lost their Way"? Around where I live they are non existent anymore. When they allowed the Southern Conservatives to totally take over and dominate the Party the lost a lot of people like myself and so many others, the Old Line Republican's. The night I saw our Congress called back into session so a Religious Leader could interfer with the business of a Family and the Family Court... That was it for me! I went down and became a Democrat, mostly because I believe in the Young VERY Intelligent Man from neighboring Illinois. The Party they call Republican Today is so far from the Party that elected Lincoln that it really is a fraud. To Continue policies you KNOW are not going to work is insane but to blindly continue them even when they are hurting the people so badly... that Lincoln, Roosevelt, NO honest Republican could EVER stand for.

[strangeworld]

"It is really looking grim for the Republicans - the neo-cons from the Bush administration hijacked the party"

The neocons didn't just take over in the Bush administration...the GOP has been running out the same cast of characters since Reagan was in office and maybe before. I call it the "modern republican party"...when Reagan got elected, the GOP took it on themselves to dismantle the middle class and redistribute the wealth to those few percent of the population who were GOP friends, business associates, and large campaign donors. In order to do this, the money-men in the modern GOP needed to put together a coalition of splinter groups that could be controlled by fear, thus they played to the guns, gays, and God crowd who are largely made up of those who are paranoid and can be easily manipulated. No, the GOP's fall didn't start with Bush jr., it started with Reagan - the same people involved, the same goals...the only difference is that Bush couldn't find a chair when the music stopped, when the American voter finally wised up to the screwing that they were getting from the GOP.

[strangeworld]

The republican party needs to figure out if it's the party of treasonous greed, or the party of fascist control of your personal behavior. Both are evident in the modern republican party, neither can win an election without the other, and neither is very attractive to today's American voter. The modern GOP represents the worst the America has to offer - a collection of the greedy, the corrupt, the paranoid, and a few judgemental social misfits thrown in for good measure.

[pdchapin]

Brian (or anyone), please give examples of what the "good spending" is in this "stimulus" package,

Posted by BenO152 at 7:47 AM : Apr 23, 2009

A local example around here. UMass had announced over 400 layoffs. With stimulus money they have cut that projection to around 100. They're still waiting for solid numbers to make the numbers exact. Improvement in education and employment at the same time. Can't beat it with a stick.

It's also becoming clear that the bank bailouts are going to cost the government little to nothing. Banks are fighting with the government for the right to give the money bank. Surprising how the moment the government attached restrictions on behavior the banks suddenly decided they didn't the money that much. Wish I could say the same for the money we gave to GM and Chrysler which looks like it's probably lost.

[grigjd3]

I find it funny that this guy pretends to himself that the world would magically work the way he wants it to if only the Libertarians were in power. There's this thing about being in power. It changes a person. I agree that it's frustrating how much money is being and has been thrown out the door. I don't believe for a second that the Libertarian party would or could fix that if given the chance. This pretend iconoclast is in fact an ideologue. Come to think of it, there are a lot of pretend iconoclasts in the media that are really ideologues.

[mav547166]

President Soros is running things now.

[gramps1941]

Seems as if every thread on all of the new sites have descended to Bush bashing. or Obama bashing. The former by those haters who cannot let go even tho GW is no longer president and of course the latter by the knuckle dragging far right.
I was a registered Republican for over 40 years. Still am because in this state I have to maintain that registration if I want to vote against the far left Dems that run Washington (state, not DC). Having said that, I didn't leave the party, the party left me, following in the wake of Richard Steele who has bent ever so far right in the process of kissing the bottoms of the Rushies and their Ilk. So, they have received their last dollar from me.
Unfortunately, Mr. Steele has missed the opportunity to re viatlize the old Reagan days which were fueled by that part of middle America that is socially moderate (I didnt say radical left) and Fiscally Conservative with varying views on military and judicial issues, although I am pretty certain most of the large middle is both militarily and judicially somewhat conservative.
So, yes, the current version of the Republican Party (Old Abe would roll over in his grave) has lost its usefullness along with in's integrity and reason. Hopefully, after 4 years of Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the Social Democrats (Thats right, SOCIAL democrats) the middle will realize what they have done and if (IF) the Republican party can find a fiscally conservative, constitutionally constructionist, personality I can once again proudly vote for a Republican. Otherwise I guess I will just cast protest votes for whichever independent floats my boat;.

[jsl45]

Shrub the Dumbnificent and his gang of morons have lead the GOP down the wrong path and there may be no turning back........what a horrible legacy Shrub and Darth Cheney have leftt. Luckily Shrub is young enough to see the how badly History is going to treat his term as the worst president in our history.

[rwassel]

It is really looking grim for the Republicans - the neo-cons from the Bush administration hijacked the party, then doubled our deficit and expanded the federal government. True Republicans should have been outraged at the violations of privacy of individual citizens, bloated spending, and our outrageous involvement in foreign affairs.

The party of Goldwater, Reagan, etc. is no more. I could see the Libertarian party taking over...

[DoubleHappiness88]

Keep reminding The GOP that "It was the Bush administration that bailed out AIG; it bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; it bailed out Citigroup; it bailed out Bear Stearns. And it was the Bush administration that pressed Congress to bail out Detroit automakers."

Republicans do not want to remember. Remind them.

[BenO152]

"The counter should begin "The current spending is good because..." then give actual reasons, not just call names and point backwards." Posted by BenO152

"The reason you don't see it is because there is good spending, that which helps the Average American function in society, and there is bad spending, that which the war profiteers have embezzled, no one answer covers it all." Posted by brianbwb-2009

Brian (or anyone), please give examples of what the "good spending" is in this "stimulus" package, name the specific areas of spending that will ?help the Average American function in society.? There's almost nothing in it that will actually turn the economy around, in fact 90% of the spending doesn't even occur for 2 years, so explain to me how that stimulates the economy during the crisis? I find it hard to believe that anyone would support the spending that is currently going on (either in amount or where the money is being applied). I guess I could see the argument if the almost $1 trillion had gone toward health care, I wouldn't agree, but I could understand the argument. I honestly don't see any valid argument for what is currently happening (or really even any invalid ones).

And to all the posts that keep saying that the "problem" with the Tea Parties is that the same complaints could be said about Bush: The same complaints ARE being said about Bush. That?s the whole point of the Tea Parties, the CITIZENS need to take their country back from government (both parties!).

[ddaryl1]

more then a fork should be stuck in all republicans.

but overall our entire government is a joke... COngress and the Senate are self serving no matter what party is in control. Guarenteed raises, lifetime health care and a retirement plan better then any worker in this country.

[rwassel]

It is really looking grim for the Republicans - the neo-cons from the Bush administration hijacked the party, then doubled our deficit and expanded the federal government. True Republicans should have been outraged at the violations of privacy of individual citizens, bloated spending, and our outrageous involvement in foreign affairs.

The party of Goldwater, Reagan, etc. is no more. I could see the Libertarian party taking over...

[mopar1956]

America has lost its way. We are not a land of freedom anymore. We are having shackles and chains added to us everyday.

It was just not Bush or OBama. It is the whole senate and congress. They are taking control and making us puppets.

We need to get back to service from our own people, not the government. We need to go back to good morales. Poeple need to get out and work for what they recieve, not stand with a hand out.

We need big change and not the kind Obama is offering. He is headed down the road to disaster.

[johnb8888]

"Until the GOP stops listening to folks like Rush, Boehmer, Hannity, Coulter, etc and starts listening to M. McCain, Jindal, Pawplenty, etc. it is doomed to remain a minor national party.
Posted by ramos1129



Until they start listening to Loser, Stumbler, and Dweeb?

The Repigs fate is dim indeed, although the Billionaire class will spend many dollars to try to retake the power from the people.

[johnb8888]

Goodness Gracious where were all these "patriots" when the Bushits were adding $5,000,000,000,000 to the National Debt?

Quiet as little sewer rats, just like the Repig Bushit Congress was?

The "outrage" was purely selective and manufactured--sponsored and paid for by Rupert Murdoch.

Rupert's a foreign Bushit Billionaire who wants to keep what he stole.

[mav547166]

bthomascope put your crack pipe down and go research your facts.

[formrusmcsgt]

But the problem with the Tea Party movement is that the same complaints can be lodged against former President George W. Bush. It was the Bush administration that bailed out AIG; it bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; it bailed out Citigroup; it bailed out Bear Stearns. And it was the Bush administration that pressed Congress to bail out Detroit automakers.
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Neocons are loathe to accept blame for anything......but they are accomplished at pointing fingers at others.

[didserve]

stick a fork in the republicans they are done!

[brianbwb-2009]

"The counter should begin "The current spending is good because..." then give actual reasons, not just call names and point backwards." Posted by BenO152

The reason you don't see it is because there is good spending, that which helps the Average American finction in society, and there is bad spending, that which the war profiteers have embezzled, no one answer covers it all.