Comments on: The "Detroit's A Loser" Myth

CNET: Despite Citizens' Complaints About The Bailout, The Big Three Build Really Good Cars And We Buy A Lot Of Them

[hitoyou11]

"If the big 3 American car companies did so well at selling the US its cars, why are we in this mess in the first place? "

Simple, folks in the US have been fooled to believe paying more for a foreign car gets them better overall value and because the GOP has been gunning to kill the UAW for decades, that''''s why. People just don''''t seem to see the relationships between their spending habits and the impact on our economy like they used to in the past. It used to be we had better wages and better products and people were proud of of it. Today way too many folks are just looking out for themselves and believing just what they''''ve been told to believe.


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Posted by macusweil


Talk about BS. This is it at it''s best.

[hitoyou11]

No he did not make you buy a SUV. You are a fool and we all know it. Thanks for clearing that up.

[macusweil]

"If the big 3 American car companies did so well at selling the US its cars, why are we in this mess in the first place? "

Simple, folks in the US have been fooled to believe paying more for a foreign car gets them better overall value and because the GOP has been gunning to kill the UAW for decades, that''s why. People just don''t seem to see the relationships between their spending habits and the impact on our economy like they used to in the past. It used to be we had better wages and better products and people were proud of of it. Today way too many folks are just looking out for themselves and believing just what they''ve been told to believe.

[hitoyou11]

"Detroit''s A Loser" Myth: There is no Myth to it, Dettoit is a loser. Watch and you will see the tax payers money go by by, Not only is DETROIT a loser, the UAW is a loser.

[rudy6543]

Honestly, this article is written like a piece of krapp. The industry isn''t in trouble because everything is hunky dory in sales. Get a another job Brian Cooley.

[cbscrash072]

I buy Mustangs. My last mustang pushed 30mpg on the freeway. Not bad for a 300Hp V8. I can hardly wait for the 2010 due out next year. If you want to check it out Google 2010 mustang its the first result.

[lyfizgood]

ajbj2322
Please accept my sincerest apology. I pasted your id mistakenly, on the comment I made about being a jerk. I meant to direct it to d7767w for a terrible comment he made to someone else. Very sorry. I fully understand you position.

[rudy6543]

Posted by krazytaz312 at 03:13 PM

Well good, you sound like one of the happiest contributors to high gas prices I''ve ever seen. So non chalant.

[n0rm1-2009]

The government can''t run the car companies but it is the government''s job to create a good climate for business. A big part of that is having an energy policy. In Japan and Europe thier energy policy is high gas taxes. This permanently gears their car companies towards high milage vehicles. In this country the gas price swings low enough so people want big low milage vehicles, and then swings high so Detroit is expected to turn on a dime and suddenly compete in the high milage arena. It can''t be done. Where Detroit failed is that they opposed even the most feeble attempts to address the problem, such as CAFE standards. But its both sad and hilarious to see all the congressmen pretending that this is all Detroits fault. It is their fault. Their leadership on establishing an energy policy, (CAFE standards, gas taxes, tax breaks for small cars,...ANYTHING) has been ZERO.

[sk8erbryan]

Something is very wrong with the logic/numbers here. If the big 3 American car companies did so well at selling the US its cars, why are we in this mess in the first place? It''s not like this is/was just a bad year. We are talking billions and billions of dollars, just to get by a few months. Sorry but this goes against every conversation and experience I''ve had with cars in the past 10 years.

[krazytaz312]

I just laugh when I read so many people blaming Bush, the Oil companies and Big 3 for the number of SUVs on the roads. As a proud owner of a Chevy Blazer, I have to tell you Bush didn''t make a bit of difference on my choice. It was MY choice and I bet you the same can be said by most other SUV owners. I like the features my Blazer gives me and that was enough to counter the average (18-20 MPH) mileage I get with my SUV. If people didn''t want SUVs then why were so many sold. The Big 3 just responded to what the consumers wanted, not what someone told us to buy.

[philandolina]

I agree with the many who have commented before me on the lack of competitiveness eroding the market share of American made vehicles. Rather than offering what Americans need from the media you instead point out that "these are Wall Street-driven companies and the margins on trucks & SUVs were great business." Is it great business to have a view of the future that does not include long term sustainability? Was it not Wall Street''s and the Big 3''s near term greed that puts all of us in the economic bind we find ourselves in? Is not our approach to this free market system terribly broke?

[sjbj2322]

lyfizgood....clearly you can''t tell the difference between someone being smart mouthed and simply trying to interject a bit of reality. The fact is that these guys are making way too much money while the rest of us are forced (under a free market economy) to base the amount we charge for goods and services on what the market can bear. All I''m saying is that if our government can afford to maintain their lifestyle than clearly the market can afford my being able to raise my rates as well. You and I know that can''t happen or I''d be out of work as well should be the case. So while I continue to be FAIR about what I charge I would ask that you be just a tad bit more compassionate about the sacrifice I''m making for the sake of others. In the meantime, you want to talk about some REAL smart mouths. How about the UAW union leaders who refuse to accept that their members can get by on just a bit less. Back at ya for an answer to that one.

[patriot311w]

len2007, I tip my hat to you! My father fought in WWII and was wounded while liberating the French. If there''s one thing I was taught from a very early age, it''s that Americans stick "together", we get through the situation "together" good or bad. It''s that mentality that served his generation well, as they built the Greatest Nation the world has known. Sadly, the "greed and me" mentality has taken over and this is where our country stands now as a result! So much for the foreign made bargains! The way I see it, you "are" protecting your employees civil rights, as they certainly won''t have any if the Chinese have their say on the issue, and let''s face it they have plenty of say these days. I often wonder, if the need should ever arise, for heavy manufacturing capacity as a matter of national security, "how quickly would the Nissan and Toyota plants comply"?

[macusweil]

I''ve never purchased a new car from a foreign car company and never will unless I''m forced because there are no American companies left.

American cars are cheaper to own and just as reliable as anything on the road.

Folks who buy all these foreign cars because they believe it''s a better value are not only wasting their own money but hurting our nation. Wake up America!!

[lyfizgood]

my wife and I both drive American made cars I drive a 1996 Buick Regal( 46,000 miles) and she drives a 2002 Chrysler Sebring we both get about the same millage which is 24 to 34 miles per gallon both are very comfortable cars, 4 dr. sedans with plenty of room. We have never owned a foreign car.

Posted by d7767w
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And you think that is good? We have a Kia and a Prism, both over 150,000, gets great mpg, din''t cost but less than half what you paid, and only minor maintenance on both costs on both; mostly oil changes every 7K miles. Never had either in the shop! So who''s made the better buy? And why can''t US auto makers do as well?

[saraplumber]

I will buy VW''''s from now on!!

Posted by kevinkkloste at 01:25 PM : Dec 19, 2008
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And you''ll be doing a lot of walking.

[lyfizgood]

omega40
When was the last time you actually saw ''trickle down economics'' work? The only way such an idea can work is in the absence of GREED. What world do you know where there is no GREED, except one that is not inhabited by humans? Dream on. They say ********* is bliss.

[lyfizgood]

bigal321321
Thank you. You are right though, we are to blame. We vote the idiots into office. We allow stupid laws to be passed. We roll over when others want to screw us. I''m just tired of it. And if the only way to fix it is to see it all fall first, then so be it. But somehow it has just got to be fixed!

[thomderr]

Give me a good Chevy Impala - any day!