Comments on: Obama Answers Criticism That He's Changing Positions

[ariel133]

McCain is absloutely right, we will leave with Honor, and the media may play the information card, but they really don''t know the inside details. Obama, on the other hand, and his remark about how Americans should be embarressed for not speaking French when traveling to France is wrong..Americans should be embarressed for not speaking English in America.

[pvperson]

Talk about flip-flop, McCain won''t accept Iraq demanding a timetable for troop removal after pledging to do just that. That''s not a flip-flop, that''s a plain old lie.

[samthetvcat]

---"BUT, when you start asking him questions --- he falters. That''s not smart --- that''s disappointing. Who needs that. He''s done. Over and Out."---
Posted by lottobee

Well, I''m not saying anything like that - there''s the danger that some people will tune out because all they see is the flip-flop and their radar reads ''untrustworthy, unreliable''. But there''s liable to be a whole lot more people who will look at the choices and say Barack doesn''t give good answers, but holy frick - look at McCain! And will then take the leap of faith with Barack.

I''m trying to say that if we can predict what actions they''re both most likely to take, and given their skill sets and likely cabinet members can therefore ball-park predict what kind of results they''re likely able to achieve, then we''ll also have that to help us decide who we think would be best.

Kind of a rough science though! :(

[lottobee]

Bama is done. We are bored to death with his rhetoric. The newness has worn off and we don''t like what we see. Yeah, yeah, his speeches are all fiery and exciting --- but they''re just that --- speeches. Anyone can read what someone else has written and he reads them really well. BUT, when you start asking him questions --- he falters. That''s not smart --- that''s disappointing. Who needs that. He''s done. Over and Out. Let''s vote now and get this nonsense over with.

[samthetvcat]

PPS Oh so anyway, I guess an argument in favor of Barack now that he''s more predictable might be to say that there ARE some areas he''s shown interest where McCain has not - community organizing and empowerment through investments in education, etc

[samthetvcat]

PS Anyway, I guess my larger point would be that Barack gained an edge over Hillary and John Edwards by committing to the 16-month timeline - something the two of them were unwilling to do. Now he''s started to give out signals that his position was really the same as their''s all along.

So I would say that if people were going to vote for Barack thinking again that well at least his withdrawal date is shorter than McCain''s, I would counter that based on his behavior he seems to be doing exactly what he did in the primaries and it seems to be working again.

Like Barack''s saying he hasn''t changed and I guess in that sense he really hasn''t - and maybe he is right in the sense that he''s telling us everything we need to know to ''hear'' what it is he''s really saying and if we haven''t been able to figure out the true message then in essense we in a way ''aren''t listening'' after all.

The profile may need some refinement, but I think it''s close to being something we''re all starting to agree on. Not a lot of people trying to claim he''s not flip-flopping except for him - even as he''s doing it right to our faces.

[bookout2]

Obama not a flip-floper?
BULL!

[samthetvcat]

pt 1

Well, look - when a candidate starts to say that his own supporters are ''cynical'' and ''not listening'', the relevant aspect to that is that helps us all generate a ''profile'' of that candidate. The profile''s important so we can all cut through the rhetoric and assess based on deeper characteristics such as motives, habits, states of minds, just how that candidate is likely to behave or decide in the future.

So what''s the deal with calling his ''friends on the left'' ''cynical'' and ''not listening''? It benefits him if (1) voters are stuck given that the alternative is worse, and (2) the critics can be marginalized and rendered irrelevant by attacking their credibility. A candidate who was acting based on principle would give a different response such as that the reason they got into the race was because nobody else was willing to stand up to the right and say enough we need to draw down as fast as possible and start putting ourselves first before we go further down the toilet, but that being said the reality is that it might be shooting ourselves in the foot to not keep in mind the backlash we could face if we just leave and the fighting causes the middle east to want to seek revenge, and hence that''s the dilemma.

[samthetvcat]

pt 2

So if the emerging profile is that Barack will take two different positions at the same time where possible (like that he''s committed to withdrawing troops within 16 months AND he''s going to not commit to withdrawing troops within 16 months), and where not will take as far right a position until just left of McCain such that he''s still seen as not GOP, where exactly would you expect Barack to REALLY stand on Iraq?

I would guesstimate that he thinks he''s got 4 years until his ''re-election'' to basically fulfill his promise, which is exactly the same as McCain''s. The way to test how well one''s really got somebody else figured out is to start pinning them down. Where exactly does he come down on the balance between withdrawl and security in Iraq? How long is he willing to extend the presence in Iraq and how much instability is he willing to say is not something we can any longer concern ourselves with? Where does Barack stand on permanent bases in Iraq?

If he keeps trying to defer or deflect, or provides an answer which is too optimistic I would see that as evidence that the ''16months''/''16months+'' actually more like 3 years (the start of re-election).

[nottellin1]

IMO, voting results from this years Presidential election wont be valid unless the polls are able to insure that the name of the person voting is the same as the registered voter. I live in Cali and the way the polls are here, anybody could bluff their way far enough to pick a name from the voter ledger. Prepare for anarchy!

[providence-w]

Hello my name is America,
And I am dying?
Who will help me?
I am about 230 years old.
I had been born out of the prayer in men%u2019s hearts who understood what true liberty is.
My name is America and God knows about me, but people do not care about God they have kicked Him out of politics and schools someday they may show Him the door out of the country!
People do not care about me America. There is no more love of being an American!
People are murdering every day in regard to aborted babies and again they do not care of what true liberty is for all!
Hello I am America who will save me! People raise flags in remembrance of me, but who will raise their heart in the principles by which we stand?
Hello I am America and I am crying for the injustice being done in my name. Where O where are the citizens that will help me and turn towards God to heal me? Where are the Americans who will fight for me? What will happen to me? My name is America who will love me? Who will pray to God for me?

God is true to His word?
That%u2019s why Jesus died for us!

[glenda743]

Here is a good question... For someone who "SAYS" he''s not taking corporate money....I just wonder what Barack Hussein Obama thinks the Bio Fuel Industry is .....if not corporate...what the !@@# is it???? He is such a liar.....

[johnmcsame]

Hussein, where is your birth certificate?

[glenda743]

"Obama Answers Criticism That He''s Changing Positions"....Latest headline....Listen up folks....Forked tongued Hussein is going to tell you what you didn''t hear...AGAIN...Isn''t it amazing we have to have a little weasil like him tell us what we hear and that we didn''t hear it right?????? What a joke Barack Hussein Obama is...

[j-whitman]

bswalker12,,, McBush can''t make up his mind if he''s debating the McCain of 2000 ---- He''s a sure loser in a debate with Obama.

[j-whitman]

In 2004 at the Concil of Foreign Relations - McCain was asked what should we do if Iraq''''s elected government told us to leave at the end of the UN agreement

He said "We Should Leave"

[j-whitman]

VastR-WCon,,,, McBush''''s campaign staff is now former Bush/Cheney campaign people & those belonging to Karl Rove

--- McCain is Bush & No Change, just more lies. ---

[eddie186]

McSame supporters need to check yourselves the only candiate that has flip-floped on everything is Mr. McSame so wake up and smell the coffee and stop believing the BS

[vastr-wcon]

Flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop.....

I will take public financing for my campaign-----I will NOT take public financing for my campaign.
Clinton''s NAFTA is BAD-----"Canada''s CTV News reported that a ''senior member'' of Obama''s campaign had phoned (Canadian Ambassador) Wilson personally to advise him to ''not be worried about what Obama says about NAFTA''.
I will get the troops home immediately-----I will NOT get the troops home immediately.
"I could no more disown him (rev. wright) than I could disown my ... grandmother."-----I DISOWN rev wright. (Look out grandma, you may be next!).
I support total gun control-----I do NOT support total gun control.
I don''t need no stinkin'' flag pin-----I NOW WEAR a flag pin since I''m now patriotic (wink, wink)!
No immunity for illegal wiretapping telcos-----I vote YES on immunity for illegal wiretapping telcos.

At last, I finally know what he really means by "change".
"Change we can NOT believe in."

[ariel133]

I do not trust someone who has not served his country proudly,in some form or another, or who feels ''obligated'' to wear a USA pin ( as opposed to having it on only in question) or to be at a Church that hates Americans for over 20 years. Period.