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by vbwr1 April 9, 2008 12:56 AM EDT
To truth hurts,

I don''t think Obama sounds like Bush at all. Obama is much smarter and more articulate than Bush could ever hope to be.

I know the truth hurts, especially to one who claims to be able to "SEE" the truth. Open not only your eyes, but your mind and spirit and then things will start to make sense.
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by trillium12 April 9, 2008 12:43 AM EDT
If success is not defined and achievable with the resources plausibly available, you will neither be able to reach it nor know when you have.

Miles from nowhere... guess I''ll take my time, to get there, yeah.

While our soldiers do tour after tour, killed, maimed, horribly stressed. With no end in sight...
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by trillium12 April 9, 2008 12:39 AM EDT
If success is not defined and achievable with the resources plausibly available, you will neither be able to reach it nor know when you have.

Miles from nowhere... guess I''ll take my time, to get there, yeah.

While our soldiers do tour after tour, killed, maimed, horribly stressed. With no end in sight...
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by blkpresident April 9, 2008 12:38 AM EDT
RowdyTexan2,

And just what is lil'' Hillary''s plans to manage the Iraq situation? Hope it''s not donning an apron and baking our terrorist enemies a batch of brownies. America doesn''t need a weeny for president.
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by vbwr1 April 9, 2008 12:09 AM EDT
Obama was looking for more than American Presidential Idol points today and his questions were a masterstroke of strategy. Those shallowly focusing on Obama%u2019s style of questioning fail to see one thing; He has bound the military and to some extent the administration with the answers they gave.

1. We cannot define success as the elimination of Al Qaeda in Iraq
2. We cannot define success as the elimination of Iranian influence in Iraq.

Rather than grandstand on the outrage of the war, he has built his ammunition for a contrast with McCain in an election by going after the core of their BS argument and you will see it come to pass.

Gen. Petraus and the Ambassador probably didn%u2019t fully understand the ramifications of what their sworn answers on military strategy.

Another thing the General and Ambassador went on the record as saying:

3. Chasing Al Qaeda in Afghanistan/Pakistan is more important than chasing Al Qaeda in Iraq.

%u2026and people say Obama isn%u2019t a smart guy%u2026.. wow. He%u2019s brilliant!
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by jonesforch April 9, 2008 12:01 AM EDT
All they have given us so far are horror stories about what would happen if we leave. As Obama pointed out, we''''re NEVER going to be able to leave Iraq in a state of bliss. So what are we looking for? What are we killing for? What are we dying for?

Do you freely walk the streets? Do you freely buy and say what you want? Freedom is don''t free..NOTHING is free.


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by dothemath3 April 8, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
Obama pressed the Ambassador and the General to define success in Iraq since they think we should stay until we succeed. 5 years into a war that is killing thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, draining our treasury, and undermining our status in the world, we should definitely have a clear idea what we''re trying to accomplish.

All they have given us so far are horror stories about what would happen if we leave. As Obama pointed out, we''re NEVER going to be able to leave Iraq in a state of bliss. So what are we looking for? What are we killing for? What are we dying for?
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by ryaple April 8, 2008 10:59 PM EDT
I don''t think that equates to argueing or advocating for a"sloppy, status quo, resolution. I think he was trying to put some context around Crocker''s and Petreus'' definition of victory in Iraq. Bad journalism.
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by rowdytexan2 April 8, 2008 10:44 PM EDT
Obama still think he just sweet talk Ahamenjhad, and prop up Bush''s corrupt puppet government in Iraq!

The man continues to be three bottles short of a six pack as well as a day late and a dollar short!
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by susan10001-2009 April 8, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
I was impressed. He cut through the bull and got real. Iran needs to be dealt w/diplomatically, Bush is incapable, Clinton is scared. Obama is a perfect new American face with a new attitude. I like it.
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