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by tulwar-2009 February 19, 2008 3:45 AM EST
Slow news day?
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by tyrno February 19, 2008 3:44 AM EST
After reading some of these comments, I am amazed. People are pathetic. Obama used three or four lines of another man''s speech. Not to mention, this other man was his friend and suggested that Obama use it to reassure listners that his speeches were more than "just words" (Obama, Feb 2009).

Im going to use a quote that I heard from a friend, who heard from another friend, who heard from his mom, who heard... wait. Im not giving credit. Im just going to use this quote and not give anyone credit.

"Democracy sounds like a great idea until you meet the people voting."

People grow up and find something else to complain about.
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by samthetvcat February 19, 2008 3:32 AM EST
PS All the links can be found with a search engine of "Barbara Feinman It Takes a Village"
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by samthetvcat February 19, 2008 3:31 AM EST
pt 2

Hillary''s refusal to acknowledge the use of ghost-writers for It Takes a Village:

During her promotional tour for the book, Clinton said, "I actually wrote the book ... I had to write my own book because I want to stand by every word." Clinton stated that Feinman assisted in interviews and did some editorial drafting of "connecting paragraphs", while Clinton herself wrote the final manuscript in longhand."
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Given that the cornerstone of Hillary''s campaign is her ''passion'' for advocacy of children, and given that she has failed to release records of her time in the White House which would make clear the true level of her contributions to accomplishments, is Hillary really in the position to be throwing words like ''plagiarism'' at Barack in an attempt to bring into question his integrity and ability to lead?
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by samthetvcat February 19, 2008 3:26 AM EST
Man, if you''re going to throw stones in the age of the internet you better d@mn well sure you are living in a glass house.

Hillary''s Fails to Give Credit to Ghost-Writer for It Takes A Village:

Even though since publication, Hillary Clinton has claimed to have written the tome herself, the actual writer begs to differ. In a Sept. 2002 piece that appears on the website for The Association of Writers & Writing Programs (AWP), Barbara Feinman Todd told the odd story of Hillary''s blatant theft of credit due Feinman for her work on It takes a Village:

"The problem came when Mrs. Clinton decided, for reasons still a mystery to me, not to acknowledge my help, or that of anyone else, by name. Because the White House had issued a press release early on in the process stating that I had been hired to "help prepare the manuscript," when it was finished and there was no mention of me in the acknowledgments, the anti-Clinton forces went to town. The irony was that by not acknowledging me, rather than diminishing my role, she unwittingly elevated me to a sort of literary Joan of Arc.

Pundits had a field day opining how much of the book she had actually written. The truth was much more prosaic: Like any first lady, Mrs. Clinton had an extremely hectic schedule and writing a book without assistance would have been logistically impossible.
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by paris1969 February 19, 2008 3:21 AM EST
I never expected Obama to be a JFK ... so this is not a problem for me.

Hillary ''08
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by l8c6 February 19, 2008 3:11 AM EST
cecil4obama

You will see and you will learn. You listen to this cr*ap and you get caught up in it. A young generation might likely embark on a journey of learning at the school of hard knocks. My parents were children during the great republican depression. Their parents, my grandparents were adults who saw an economy collapse. The hate for Hillary is deplorable considering that it''s the hate the right wing has slung at her for several years. It won''t go unaccounted for. It will be bad, it really will but as right wing sociopath Jack Abramhoff said, stupid people deserve to lose. Perhaps he was right.
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by jb4peace February 19, 2008 3:09 AM EST
Obama''s defense for obvious plagiarism is that Hillary uses HIS lines when she''s speaking. However, cliches like "fired up and ready to go" are just that. Obama doesn''t have a copyright on them.

On the other hand, Obama boasts about being the inspirational orator able to move people into actions that would never occur to them on their own. Then we find when he speaks about the importance of words, the words are not his. That''s not only dishonest, it''s stupid. And this is the guy who says he is not the typical politician. I haven''t seen anything to distinguish him and now his ONE talent is suspect. And if you''ve watched the video of Governor Patrick deliver the same speech in 2006, Obama''s version is a poor cover.
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by l8c6 February 19, 2008 3:07 AM EST
torch1000us1

Nope, not gonna happen like this. This isn''t a ball game. The lefties are going down in flames. The real attacks are months off.

McCain should win. The GOP should take the economic hits. The Bush regime can only keeps it''s finger in the dam for so long. Let the GOP suffer the economic storm and let the lefty ingrates go to the school of hard knocks and learn about hard times. Something their great, great grandparents might have been able to tell them about if they''d known them.
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by cecil4obama February 19, 2008 3:03 AM EST
Borrowing rhetoric is a real no-no

From an online article dated in Jan. 2008.

I thought of this after seeing that Hillary Clinton is apparently using some familiar phrases, usually associated with one of her rivals.

%u201CWe are fired up and we are ready to go because we know America is ready for change and the process starts right here in Iowa.%u201D

In Davenport, Iowa, those words escaped the barriers of a tired Hillary Clinton%u2019s teeth. Without irony.

That phrase is associated with Barack Obama. Obama borrows it from a woman in South Carolina who helped remind him what was important in life. It%u2019s the signature, in fact, of Obama%u2019s close.

Ouch. That%u2019s pretty bad.

*Clinton Iowa radio ad has voter voice saying she is the candidate of %u2018hope.%u2019%u201D

* On Hardball, Clinton%u2019s communication director said Iowans are looking %u201Cunder the hood and kickin the tires,%u201D a line Obama has been using for quite a while.

*In Philadelphia in October, Clinton said, %u201CWe%u2019ve got to turn the page on George Bush and *** Cheney%u201D %u2014 a line straight out of Obama%u2019s stump speech.

Plus today on national news they showed Hillary Clinton Borrowing part of a speech her husband gave when he was campaigning.
Lots more of the above.
If you want to know the truth seek and you will find!
Obama 08
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