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- I see obama supporting the war once he was in the relevant postion to do something about it. I see obama voting for the partiot act and voting for cheney''s energy policy, i see obama caving to the nuclear power industry and taking $230,000.00 in contributions from them and having lobbyist on his campaign and his questionable ties to rezko. i see obama as a FRAUD and the media perpetrating the biggest FRAUD on the American public. It is time for the American people to stop the fraud and ask the questions and analyze what is at stake.
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- hy Hilary can demand a debate to cover what has already been said in over 18 other debates, claim her rival is scared, when really she just wants free media and a sniping fest--and she can say all of that and look us right in the eye. She can be confronted with wrong doing or her own duplicity and it means nothing--monsters have no conscience. Right now, a criminal case concerning donations and campaign fraud is going on in CA--the people being investigated are Hilary and Bill--the judge presiding was appointed by Bill--he says Hilary is not involved and knew nothing, key witnesses have been held or detained to keep testimony from proceeding--but here is the kicker, Hilary is caught on tape discussing this very issue with one of the people who implicate her--but do you hear about THAT in the media? She is not fit to be President, she is as bad as Bush or worse--and supporters only lie that she is not (Just like Bush''s adherents did for him) because they prefer to ignore everything about her--but that she is theirs. SAme as any neo con mindset. Hilary is NOT Progress--she is Bush in a Blue wrapper.
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- Which is why Hilary can recant on granting DL''s to illegals, can abstain on voting for amnesty, can talk about securing the borders, then go right down to any heavily Hispanic pop and proclaim herself both friend and champion looking them right in the eyes. Which is why Hilary can talk about her dislike of the Bush years and war, repudiate his policies and find out that most of them she endorsed on down the line, why she can speak against torture, but will not bring up her resistance to minimizing it. She often claims otherwise or nuances her decision while looking you in the eye.
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- I see Hilary voting for war then saying she was never for it. I see her supporting DL for illegals then taking that support away, of saying she is against torture, then voting to not define it or restrict it--of condemning the overreaches of the FBI and CIA in wiretapping and the DOJ scandal then voting to expand the power of FISA and hand that power to the same DOJ and FBI. I hear her and don''t bother looking through the rose/pink colored glasses of feminism. I hear her bragging that she is an insider and knows all of the games and tricks and that she is hard enough and nasty enough to beat the Republicans at their old games. But in the end--if you use the tactics your enemies do to win--you become as bad as your enemy. WE are learning that as we embrace an illegal war and torture and confron the lies, death and devastation our acts cause--that ends up dwarfing the acts caused by the 9/11 terrorist. WE are starting to see a connection. This means that if we elect someone as venal, malicious, lying and manipulative as a Repbulican (because they can win) we may as well elect the real Republican--because in the end, you get the same result.
I say No to HIlary--because she has become the monster and if you think that is ok, because she is YOUR monster--understand monsters kowtow to and are ruled by no man--and they have no true loyalty either. - Reply to this comment
- It will require CHANGE AND EXPERIENCE. Just listen to Hillary in one debate. It is clear she has the experience. She understands this system inside and out.
Please go to her website. hillaryclinton.com
Posted by PROGRESS_08 at 10:23 AM : Feb 14, 2008
I see some of the things Hilary has done or is doing to win. I see the reruns of her planting questions and people at rallies to make herself look better (ala Bush technique) I see her making points about her platform but giving NO specifics, just like Obama, I see her platform is actually not that different from his, I see video of her being taped running illegal donor soirees, replete with asking the workers there for money (like Cher) I see what she and Bill did to Stan Lee and how they lied about knowing Peter Paul and hid the 200K he gave them, later blaming it all on a subordinate. I see her offering to buy us all with tax payer money, and I see her trying to shape the debate with lies, innuendo and race baiting. Those are experiences the public has recently had with Hilary. Not good experiences--but sometimes experience is NOT good--I prefer not to experience Hilary any longer.... - Reply to this comment
- Listen everybody, both candidates are strong candidates. It''s a great year. THAT is why voters are coming out in droves. It''s not because of one or the other. There are millions who have never voted but are doing so because of HILLARY and Obama. The question is: who do you believe will be able to push this nation towards the progress we need. It will require CHANGE AND EXPERIENCE. Just listen to Hillary in one debate. It is clear she has the experience. She understands this system inside and out. She has relationships with many countries around the world. She has been tested against the Republican attack dogs. Please remember Mondale, Kerry, Gore. They all were untarnished when they got the nomination but by the time the Repulicans were done with them, they had been knocked out. If Obama were to get the nomination, the same would happen to him. He needs some accomplishments to stand on so he can hold his ground with them. At this point, he doesn''t. In 4 or 8 years, he will. HILLARY is the best choice in this election and she will bring about amazing change that will benefit us all.
Please go to her website. hillaryclinton.com - Reply to this comment
- Change. If Obama''s the changemaker, why does he copy Clinton in ideas and platform? If he''s basically copying her and not putting forth new ideas, why should I think he''ll put forth new ideas in the Whitehouse??
From McCains Economic advisor:
"Obama''s (economic) plan. is the most shameless piece of potential plagiarism that I have ever seen. He basically took Clinton''s words and Clinton''s policies and called them his own. If I were a professor I''d give him an F and try to get him kicked out of school," said Kevin Hassett, Sen. John McCain''s economic advisor and the Director of Economic Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute. - Reply to this comment
- Listen everybody, both candidates are strong candidates. It''s a great year. THAT is why voters are coming out in droves. It''s not because of one or the other. There are millions who have never voted but are doing so because of HILLARY and Obama. The question is: who do you believe will be able to push this nation towards the progress we need. It will require CHANGE AND EXPERIENCE. Just listen to Hillary in one debate. It is clear she has the experience. She understands this system inside and out. She has relationships with many countries around the world. She has been tested against the Republican attack dogs. Please remember Mondale, Kerry, Gore. They all were untarnished when they got the nomination but by the time the Repulicans were done with them, they had been knocked out. If Obama were to get the nomination, the same would happen to him. He needs some accomplishments to stand on so he can hold his ground with them. At this point, he doesn''t. In 4 or 8 years, he will. HILLARY is the best choice in this election and she will bring about amazing change that will benefit us all.
Please go to her website. hillaryclinton.com - Reply to this comment
- Hillary is a real inspiration to all of us, and deserves our thanks and praise for a life dedicated to helping others - helping create the Adoption & Safe Families Act, instrumental in designing Children''s Health Insurance, working to help children through Vaccines for Children Program, donating proceeds from her ground breaking book, It Takes a Village, to children causes....the list goes on. Hillary - Our SUPERWOMAN!
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- Given the fact that the Democractic Party has a chance to WIN the November Election......
Five Reasons Why We ALL should vote for Barack Obama....
1) He is bringing in NEW Voters
2) 8% of Republicans would Vote for him !!!
3) He has consistantly won Independent Voters
4) He Has shown that he can WIN across the Country
5) HE beats McCain ..... Note. -3/4 of the American Population - RED and Blue - THE UNITED States are against the WAR!!!!
Hey.... Hillary...I have A Solution.......Vote for OBAMA!!!!!!
Yes We Can!!!!
OH PLEASE
How is he bringing in "red states"? Are you forgetting that Republicans haven''t voted yet? Are you saying my republican boss who is voting for Obama in the primary because he wants to win in November with McCain is actually supporting Obama?
Oh my God you people are simple minded.
After 7 years of the press giving Bush a pass on EVERYTHING, you''re now sucking up everything the same press that''s hyping Obama impossibly too high?
Obama will never win the Presidency...and Dems are once again *** up.
But wait!
Hillary and Obama are NECK AND NECK...when Hillary was ahead by 25 delegates were people screaming that she was winning? Was the media sticking a fork in Obama?
Nope.
Hillary''s gonna win Ohio and Pennsylvania..Texas...HIllary is far from "toast." - Reply to this comment
- Hillary is toast.
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- If someone advocates one of the candidates because of his or her gender or race, it''s a direct insult on them. Hillary and Obama are both more than their race or gender. We want to attain a society that does not discriminate on the basis of gender or race. But if we think someone should be elected on the basis of race or gender, we will never attain this goal.
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- Given the fact that the Democractic Party has a chance to WIN the November Election......
Five Reasons Why We ALL should vote for Barack Obama....
1) He is bringing in NEW Voters
2) 8% of Republicans would Vote for him !!!
3) He has consistantly won Independent Voters
4) He Has shown that he can WIN across the Country
5) HE beats McCain ..... Note. -3/4 of the American Population - RED and Blue - THE UNITED States are against the WAR!!!!
Hey.... Hillary...I have A Solution.......Vote for OBAMA!!!!!!
Yes We Can!!!! - Reply to this comment
- Five reasons women should support Hillary Clinton
1. 1872 Victoria Claflin Woodhull became the first woman US presidential candidate. (Women would not be allowed to officially vote until July 1920 with the passage of the 19th Amendment)
2. 1966 Indira Gandhi became Prime Minister of India (and again in 1980)
3. 1969 Golda Meir became Prime Minister of Israel
4. 1979 Margaret Thatcher became Prime Minister of Great Britain
5. 2008 One hundred and thirty-six years after Woodhull%u2019s bid to lead our nation, America still has not had a female president. Yet worldwide other major nations (many others not noted here) have been far more progressive.
No, this cannot be about gender alone, but it''s a fact that Hillary Clinton is more qualified than her opponent. Consider, she has 7 years in the U.S. Senate vs. her opponent''s 3 years, that is still 4 more valuable years of experience in the National Government. (NOTE: 4 years is the difference between a high school diploma and a college degree)
If you agree, please cut and paste this and email it to all the wonderful, talented, savvy women in your life. I%u2019m sure they%u2019ll agree, it%u2019s about time we give ourselves a shot at the oval office.
Start by sending her cash (https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=3
) ...then, if you haven''t already, by casting your vote. And click here to donate $5 today. - Reply to this comment
