Comments on: Clinton vs. Obama: Listen To the Crowd Noise

[bigpool1]

My posting earlier stated that I supported Clinton''s experience over Obama''s inexperience. I''m responding to a posting (Obama supporter) that implied that the posters have not read Obama''a position on issues. I have, and I believe many of those responding in favor of Clinton also have. I have made it a point to pay attention, and read as much as I can about both Clinton & Obama. I have read his positions, and to be quite frank, it appears Obama is reading Clinton''s play book. I''ve become very educated on the issues from both Clinton & Obama. As I said earlier, Obama will make a great leader one day, but he simply needs more time. If Obama was sincere about supporting the Democratic party, when Clinton wins the nomination, he should work as hard as she would to make sure that ALL the Democratic voters & those undecided come out & vote for the Democratic party. No one should underestimate the strength of Clinton in fighting the Republicans.

Sorry - if you paste the article link into your browser it won''t recognize the 2nd line of text. If you want to read the sexism article go to ms.foundation.org/ and click on this homepage link:

Words Matter: What the McCain debacle reveals about politics in ''08

[sheeeeba-2009]

(Continued) It is up to women to change this. There has been talk of change. Well, women want change too. Women want a great candidate for President, and they want the First woman as the President of the United States.

Here is a fact- Women got the vote 51 years after black men.

If a man were more qualified, it would be different. But Hilary Clinton is obviously more qualified than her opponent. This alone is enough to vote for her. And the fact that she is a woman makes it easy.

For our grandmothers, for our mothers, for our daughters, and for our granddaughters- and for the United States of America- let%u2019s vote for Hilary.
This is a vote for the best candidate for President. And this is a vote for all women- whom I Salute!

Thank you,
Lisa Cochran

[p0608]

I don''t like the sense I feel from the Barack Obama campaign and supporters. Something is going on here, he just exploded all at once here lately. I remember just a few months ago he could not do a good debate, now all of certain he can run the country and have all these Big Time people behind him.......mum... I cannot trust all this what is happening with him, something is not right. WE the Democratic Party need to stop,think, look and listen very close. I''m voting for Hillary Clinton, she has been the same all along through this caampaign.

Mary P in Texas

I came across this the other day: http://ms.foundation.org/wmspage.cfm?parm1=524

Its a commentary by the CEO and Pres. of the Ms. Foundation regarding the still very present sexism in this country. Its a great, short, very important read. Although I''m not sure of how recently she wrote it.

I was an Edwards supporter at the very beginning and Hillary very quickly won me over by her performance at the debates. My husband is also a Hillary supporter and he is so disappointed at the disdain white men seem to have for her. What a shame...

[sheeeeba-2009]

(To Diligence!)
Not only is Hilary Clinton the most qualified candidate, she is also a Woman. All one has to do is look at American History- or world history- and see how the time has come for a woman to be the next President.

Hilary Clinton is a remarkable candidate, and being a woman she is a representative of women. Let%u2019s not forget how our vote was earned by the hard work of generations of women before us. Let%u2019s not forget how we have always been under the thumb of a male dominated society. And the statistics show that men are still voting more for a man- no matter what race- than a woman. Let%u2019s not forget how much of a battle it has been to secure women%u2019s rights in this country. And how still there is much inequality. Just look around and you%u2019ll see that it is still very much a %u201Cman%u2019s world%u201D. And the majority of men want to keep it that way.

I am not putting down men. I am married to one of them. There are many good men! But there is a social conditioning that women, (and some good men friends) have had to fight against and breakthrough. And we have broken through, but we have a long ways to go before the social conditioning dissolves completely. This social conditioning has hurt women throughout time, and still hurts women.

[thinkinwoman]

I know how Dean Reynolds feels. I took my 14 year old daughter to a Clinton speaking event here in CT, 2 weeks later my husband took her to a McCain event. What my daughter and I both remarked on was the feeling of genuine caring that you get from Hillary when you get to hear her in person. You know that she cares deeply about the people & the issues. I was a Hillary supporter before that event, but after it I made a decision to campaign for her. Yes, I do believe in supporting smart, experienced, dedicated & passionate women & no, I don''t think that Hillary will be insulted to hear that, as one poster commented. I actually think it is OK to mention that she''s a woman. When this country starts paying, promoting & recognizing women as equals, then we can stop bringing it up.
I had never contributed to a Presidential campaign prior to this, let alone campaign for someone. I have always been an independent & have voted in every election I was eligible to do so over the past 34 years but I did register as a Democrat in order to vote for Hillary this year.

Thanks to all of the anti-Hillary posters here. The way I see it you wouldn''t waste the energy to say anything unless you thought she could win. Thanks for the vote of confidence in our girl!

[sheeeeba-2009]

Not only is Hilary Clinton the most qualified candidate, she is also a Woman. All one has to do is look at American History- or world history- and see how the time has come for a woman to be the next President.

Hilary Clinton is a remarkable candidate, and being a woman she is a representative of women. Let%u2019s not forget how our vote was earned by the hard work of generations of women before us. Let%u2019s not forget how we have always been under the thumb of a male dominated society. And the statistics show that men are still voting more for a man- no matter what race- than a woman. Let%u2019s not forget how much of a battle it has been to secure women%u2019s rights in this country. And how still there is much inequality. Just look around and you%u2019ll see that it is still very much a %u201Cman%u2019s world%u201D. And the majority of men want to keep it that way.

I am not putting down men. I am married to one of them. There are many good men! But there is a social conditioning that women, (and some good men friends) have had to fight against and breakthrough. And we have broken through, but we have a long ways to go before the social conditioning dissolves completely.

[patrick3612]

Obama is now copying Hillary Clinton''s Economic Plans. I
think she inspires us all.I Guess
Obama is a Hillary supporter now.
I think we know who is the Leader
and who is the Follower. LOL ,Go
Hillary our next President.

[plumgang]

PhDforHill, doeadeer3, MJJens, mishelby--I''m in agreement with you TOTALLY. As for, prantha, you are hoping, of course, that once the media gets its teeth into your man, Obama, he''ll come out unscathed. I do believe there are some skeletons in his closet, but to be respectful of his followers, I will not say anything other than to say that, as the Republicans have done in the past, they will likewise take anything in Obama''s past even remotely off color and make sure everyone and their dog hears about it. His high approval ratings are as high as they will get, and we know Hillary''s are as low as they can ever get. My thought is that her approval ratings will be higher than his when it all comes out in the wash.

[sandysemerad]

Great article Dean Reynolds.
I voted for Hillary in Florida and my vote had better count. I think Hillary is the superstar of this campaign, and I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to vote for this brilliant candidate with the experience necessary to lead us and bring about real change, not just talk about change as Obama does. If you listen to Obama closely you''ll notice he has begun to regurgitate Hillary''s plan, the plan she''s been talking about since the beginning. But make no mistake, she''s original, the real deal, the person we need to lead us.

[phdforhill]

Once I was 10 and John Kennedy was debating Nixon...I was so taken by the hope he generated (as well as his oratory)...on that day I became a democrat (in an all republican family). I couldn''t understand why the elders in my family warned about his relatively low level of experience (more actually than Obama today)...the truth is I couldn''t know then what I didn''t know -- experience and wisdom matters in making decisions (without Bobbie Kennedy the cuban missle crisis might likely have ended in disaster)...That and Hillary''s solid support for science wins my vote....An academic
P.S. has anyone broken down support by whether the "educated" have Ph.D.s and/or are professors?

Hillary talks the talk AND walks the walk.

Obama just talks and talks.

Thanks for recognizing that Hillary does inspire people.

[prantha]

Perhaps because I actually read Obama''s position on the issues (and many posters here appear not to have done so), I support Barack Obama. Further, Hillary has high negatives - and the GOP wants her to win because she will unite a dispirited Republican Party and give them their best chance of keeping the White House in November.
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John Becker, a Clermont County (Ohio) Republican who represents much of southern Ohio on the Ohio Republican Party Central Committee said "There is nobody who can consolidate and energize the Republican Party like Hillary Clinton. It will get the people out and the money will flow."

I want the Democratic Party to regain the White House and restore the Constitution. I''m a Latina as well.

[mjjens]

Thank you for noticing the ever greater difference between Hillary and Obama supporters. I''m increasingly alarmed at the cult-like fervor coming from the Obama side, so much that they will certainly never support another candidate.

And where once I would have happily voted for either, the intense vitriol clogging the Internet plus the media''s seeming attempt to control the election through biased reporting has made me fear Obama more than any Republican.

His candidacy has brought out the worst, and may be the undoing of the Democratic party, because I will now never, ever vote for him. And I know this sentiment is growing quickly.

[mjjens]

Thank you for noticing the ever greater difference between Hillary and Obama supporters. I''m increasingly alarmed at the cult-like fervor coming from the Obama side, so much that they will certainly never support another candidate.

And where once I would have happily voted for either, the intense vitriol clogging the Internet plus the media''s seeming attempt to control the election through biased reporting has made me fear Obama more than any Republican.

His candidacy has brought out the worst, and may be the undoing of the Democratic party, because I will now never, ever vote for him. And I know this sentiment is growing quickly.

[mjjens]

Thank you for noticing the ever greater difference between Hillary and Obama supporters. I''m increasingly alarmed at the cult-like fervor coming from the Obama side, so much that they will certainly never support another candidate.

And where once I would have happily voted for either, the intense vitriol clogging the Internet plus the media''s seeming attempt to control the election through biased reporting has made me fear Obama more than any Republican.

His candidacy has brought out the worst, and may be the undoing of the Democratic party, because I will now never, ever vote for him. And I know this sentiment is growing quickly.

I am SO RELIEVED to be reading comments that are both supportive of Hillary, AND respectful of Obama. Everywhere ELSE i go i seem to see more and more vitriolic, ugly comments from Obama supporters about how vile Hillary is. That sounds more like Republican opinion than that of Democrats!

I''ve seen Hillary Clinton speak here in NY. She is charismatic and passionate - not to mention so obviously super-intelligent. She was so, so impressive in person.

The Presidency doesn''t come with training wheels. "I''m a Washington outsider, i''ll learn on the job" didn''t work so well for W! Barack Obama needs more seasoning and more experience. I''m all for Obama for President, in 2016!

[mjjens]

Thank you for noticing the ever greater difference between Hillary and Obama supporters. I''m increasingly alarmed at the cult-like fervor coming from the Obama side, so much that they will certainly never support another candidate.

And where once I would have happily voted for either, the intense vitriol clogging the Internet plus the media''s seeming attempt to control the election through biased reporting has made me fear Obama more than any Republican.

His candidacy has brought out the worst, and may be the undoing of the Democratic party, because I will now never, ever vote for him. And I know this sentiment is growing quickly.

[bk49120]

Hillary is undoubtedly the best Presidential Candidate we have today. Obama is dogging her for voting for the war. Well, she wasn''t the only person in Congress to do so. Obama DID NOT vote AGAINST THE WAR! He was not in a position to vote against it. He has been a Senator only a year now. He is being dishonest by omission here. Since he is dishonest about that; how does he or anyone else know HOW he would have voted for the war? He wasn''t privy to the information and lies given to Congress to get their vote. Obama is basing his campaign on "Change"; while Hillary has been already putting in Changes for decades, he has a long way to go to catch up with her on the "Change" issue. He definitely has a lack of maturity and experience crucially needed for the next President who will be faced with the most formidable problems and challenges a new President could face. We JUST PLAIN NEED EXPERIENCE, and not naivety at this time in our History.