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- Which is why we need government control to keep us in check right? Through central planning by the State, our souls can be fixed. Praise him
Posted by titletrack at 11:16 PM : Nov 21, 2008
I believe the old debate between Eisenhower Republicans and Democrats makes the most sense which centered around how much regulation. None is far to little as we know from the days of the robber barons, which seems to be the current Bush/McCain Republican position. Central planning is a concept which I would consider would include as an example how many cars to produce for sale at what price. If that is the case I would say that is too much government control. My basic argument is that the government should provide protections for various market participants -- assuring companies are capable of appropriately balancing the interests of significant groups in an enterprise such as a business with stockholders (owners), management and labor -- assuring there is equitable (not necessarily totally equal) opportunity for access services and materials to assure the continued operation of viable entities. The businesses themselves should under ideal circumstances compete for survival on their own merits. - Reply to this comment
- "That would be small businesses that don''''t make $250,000 a year!
You see what happens when you listen?
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Posted by Rowdydfw at 11:24 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
If you make $250K in "profit" after deductions, etc., you should count yourself lucky and stop whining!! - Reply to this comment
- "I can drive right now over across the highway into the ghetto on one side and the barrio on the other...and in front of every house is a car bigger and newer than mine...and you can see a honking big screen tv through the window into their living room...
And here I sit, driving a 15 year old car, living in an old cold farm house, with a honking big screen tv I bought used for a couple hundred bucks! And that just went pfffffffffffft...
There''''s something really wrong with this picture!
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Posted by Rowdydfw at 11:18 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
If this is what you think measures success, then HONK ON.
Frankly, I don''t care. I know people who live in poor neighborhoods who have bought into this consumption binge like the rest of the nation. This assumption that buying something will make you happy.
If you don''t have this disease, count yourself lucky.
However, what you''ve seen is a miniture version of an even bigger problem...
Just ask our government who will drop 500lb bombs on people that they''ve purchased on a credit card. - Reply to this comment
- And what did the GOP or Bush do to try to stop it. Not a dam thing. So Honk on
Posted by DJ_IL at 11:23 PM : Nov 21, 2008
Wow you are pretty divisive for an Obama supporter. I thought you guys were supposed to be non-partisan? - Reply to this comment
- Somebody tell me QUICK, am I POOR???
Posted by Rowdydfw at 11:21 PM : Nov 21, 2008
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Yes, Obama will give you free money. - Reply to this comment
- "The most dangerous people in the world are those with no comprehension of what the do not know. One of the attributes of such a person is that they believe they can both control and be responsible for all aspects of their lives. We all attempt to be responsible but the only truly wise people understand reasonably the limits of their control.
Posted by misha128 at 11:14 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
I agree.
It is also like the person who thinks he has done everything by himself or herself. Everyone who has had success has had help along the way. Everyone. Even if that help is the first person to try what it is you are selling. - Reply to this comment
- Correction
whatithink10;
The most dangerous people in the world are those with no comprehension of what THEY do not know. One of the attributes of such a person is that they believe they can both control and be responsible for all aspects of their lives. We all attempt to be responsible but the only truly wise people understand reasonably the limits of their control. I agree with you there are multiple contributors to the current economic problems -- some were driven by greed, others lost their way either from lack of understanding, arrogance, lack of diligence. There were many in groups with differing roles and ultimately their collective failings lead to the crisis. There is no one group or single failing that caused the crisis. - Reply to this comment
- The most dangerous people in the world are those with no comprehension of what the do not know. One of the attributes of such a person is that they believe they can both control and be responsible for all aspects of their lives. We all attempt to be responsible but the only truly wise people understand reasonably the limits of their control. I agree with you there are multiple contributors to the current economic problems -- some were driven by greed, others lost their way either from lack of understanding, arrogance, lack of diligence. There were many in groups with differing roles and ultimately their collective failings lead to the crisis. There is no one group or single failing that caused the crisis.
Posted by misha128 at 11:14 PM : Nov 21, 2008
Which is why we need government control to keep us in check right? Through central planning by the State, our souls can be fixed. Praise him - Reply to this comment
- "Posted by whatithink10 at 11:10 PM : Nov 21, 2008
I am extreme? You are the one that said minimum wage should be 23.50.
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Posted by titletrack at 11:12 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
I didn''t say this. I said if minimum wage kept up with the wage increases to the top 5% over the last 30 years, it would be $23 an hour.
I don''t agree with the wage increases to the richest over the last 30 years...at the same time social security and other things to the average guy has been raided. - Reply to this comment
- whatithink10;
The most dangerous people in the world are those with no comprehension of what the do not know. One of the attributes of such a person is that they believe they can both control and be responsible for all aspects of their lives. We all attempt to be responsible but the only truly wise people understand reasonably the limits of their control. I agree with you there are multiple contributors to the current economic problems -- some were driven by greed, others lost their way either from lack of understanding, arrogance, lack of diligence. There were many in groups with differing roles and ultimately their collective failings lead to the crisis. There is no one group or single failing that caused the crisis. - Reply to this comment
- "Posted by whatithink10
Darwin also thinks our ancestors didn''''t know anything but how to peel bananas for dinner...
I rather don''''t trust his thinking at all!
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Posted by Rowdydfw at 11:10 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
Your friend is the one stuck on Darwin, not me. - Reply to this comment
- "By bank, do you mean a Chinese bank?
Posted by whatithink10 at 11:07 PM : Nov 21, 2008
No, I mean the bank I work for. I probably would not give you a loan either...you don''''t seem the trustworthy type
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Posted by titletrack at 11:09 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
Do you know what fiat money is?
I don''t want your money. I prefer gold. - Reply to this comment
- Of course there will always been those who have more and those who have less. That''''s not the point. I''''m a capitalist, but not an extreme one. Americans should have the possibility to have livable wages. Otherwise, with 70% of our GDP based on consumer spending, we are doomed.
Posted by whatithink10 at 11:10 PM : Nov 21, 2008
I am extreme? You are the one that said minimum wage should be 23.50. - Reply to this comment
- "Posted by whatithink10 at 11:06 PM : Nov 21, 2008
They will still be unfairness in the world and no socialist/capitalist hybrid government will ever change that. Even Obama won''''t be able to make it so :
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Posted by titletrack at 11:07 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
Again, you are very stuck on the extremes.
Of course there will always been those who have more and those who have less. That''s not the point. I''m a capitalist, but not an extreme one. Americans should have the possibility to have livable wages. Otherwise, with 70% of our GDP based on consumer spending, we are doomed. - Reply to this comment
- By bank, do you mean a Chinese bank?
Posted by whatithink10 at 11:07 PM : Nov 21, 2008
No, I mean the bank I work for. I probably would not give you a loan either...you don''t seem the trustworthy type - Reply to this comment
- It did. The New Deal. It made it fairer than child labor and sweatshops and slavery and sharecropping. Maybe you don''''t care. But, I do.
Posted by whatithink10 at 11:06 PM : Nov 21, 2008
They will still be unfairness in the world and no socialist/capitalist hybrid government will ever change that. Even Obama won''t be able to make it so :( - Reply to this comment
- "Posted by whatithink10 at 11:04 PM : Nov 21, 2008
It is the banks money. Why would anyone give GM a loan?
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Posted by titletrack at 11:06 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
By bank, do you mean a Chinese bank? - Reply to this comment
- "Posted by whatithink10 at 11:00 PM : Nov 21, 2008
Yes, and I would say economies also apply the basics of survival of the fittest. Sink or swim...life isn''''t fair and no government will ever make it so.
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Posted by titletrack at 11:03 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
It did. The New Deal. It made it fairer than child labor and sweatshops and slavery and sharecropping. Maybe you don''t care. But, I do. - Reply to this comment
- No. It''''s not their money. If the credit crisis tells us anything, it is not their money. Unfortunately, at a certain level, being a thief is easy.
Posted by whatithink10 at 11:04 PM : Nov 21, 2008
It is the banks money. Why would anyone give GM a loan? - Reply to this comment
- "Well, you seem to being using your life to be concerned about other people''''s money.
Posted by titletrack at 11:02 PM : Nov 21, 2008"
No. It''s not their money. If the credit crisis tells us anything, it is not their money. Unfortunately, at a certain level, being a thief is easy. - Reply to this comment
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