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Democrats Blame McCain For Interrupting Process Of Reaching Bailout Plan Compromise

[boatdocster]

Posted by trumpthumper at 01:31 PM : Sep 29, 2008

Excellent post. They say a person''s "true character" is measured by their actions and deeds. As my old sub skipper used to say - "Doc, Let your ship do the talking!".

McSame dumping his injured wife, after she waited years for him for a younger rich ''trophy wife'' speaks more about his character than any lie that has come out of his mouth, and lately there have been plenty of lies.

McSame - Do as I say, not as I do.

Wow - that''s the same crapp Lill'' Bush has been spewing for 8 years.

Thanks but no thanks. Eight years of lies at the expense of the citizen in favor of rich friends is more than enough for me, and should be for you as well!

[dennisam01]

Thank you boatdocster it is good to see people out there esp. vets read some of these things and already know the truth about John "we owe you a debt that we''ll never pay " McCain and I''ll vote against it everytime they try to .Mccain

[trumpthumper]

As a Viet vet with a whole drawer full of ribbons and nice shiny''s I have to be perfectly honest with myself, and my fellow citizens - who I gladly gave my pinky and a ring finger for - McCain is simply not the answer. I didn''t say he wasn''t a hero or a great guy or a fellow vet. But I admire him as a citizen, like my neighbor. God knows I don''t want my neighbor running this country. John has shown questionable loyalty in two very specific forums. The first being vet''s needs and the repeated chances he had to increase funding. Then there''s the way he dumped his wife - his crippled wife -who waited for him while he was a POW. Upon his return he thanked her by shacking up with Cindy and taking full advantage of her wealth - then marrying her within 30 days of his divorce. Divorce happens to alot of us, me included, but John also took the low road by sticking his wife with the medical bills from 23 surgeries. A family friend had to pay them off. This type of decision making is flawed. Sort of like insisting - over and above 3 of his senior advisors to put Palin on the ticket. John want''s what John wants and he uses every means possible - morals be damed - to get it. Not a good thing for our nation. We just swallowed 8 years of that. McCain and Cheney are just too similar, and look where we as a nation are at now. BTW: Did you look at JM''s 6 yr record of pushing and voting for Wall Street degregulation? Consider that judgement too. Forward Out....

I am a vet (Vietnam) and McCain lost my vote when he began to issue misleading statements about his opponent and using outrageous ad to bolster his campaign. The final straw as his selection of Palin as his running mate. God help us if he wins and becomes physically disabled to continue in office as the lesser of two evils.

[jaxspp]

I''m sure they voted against John Kerry and Al Gore, the only true veterans in the last campaigns, and against Jimmy Carter, a Naval Commander vs someone who made training films in Hollywood during the war.
They will vote for any GOP candidate regardless, even "Regis and Kathie Lee", McCain/Palin

[liberalme]

Just this year McCain voted AGAINST the GI Bill, better medical care and against every other benefit for the troops---how can he say he "loves" our troops?

He''s a liar.

[boatdocster]

"Yeah Dennis, he did say that and the reason he voted against the bill was because it stated it was the same comp for a 3 year vet as compared with a career soldier which, discourages reenlistments. Plain and simple but go ahead and characterize it as you think helps your boy Barack."

Posted by Michaelm07 at 01:11 PM : Sep 29, 2008

Sorry but as one career retired vet who will not be voting for McSame I have to agree with Dennis.

Don''t forget that McSame also waffled on torture at the end, voting to support Bush''s grievous "Military Commissions Act" just before the GOP lost control of the Congress. No fair trials, President can imprison anyone he or she wants for any reason (including US Citizens), no trial guaranteed, torture is OK if the President thinks is needed and give Carte Blanche to the President to suspend the US Constitution and declare marshal law if the event of a crisis (and the President decides what a crisis is, its not even spelled out in the bill).

Another piece of Bush garbage legislation where America has lost the high moral ground and sunk in to the gutter.

McSame has no concern with Vets, other than getting their vote; after that, who cares... Billions of dollars are being given to rich private contractors and nothing for the vets. Not too hard to see where McSame''s loyalties are.

[dennisam01]

On the Issue of veterans health care

McCain voted Nay on a bill that would %u201CTo increase Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.%u201D (click here).
Also a bill that would, %u201CTo provide an additional $500,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2006 through 2010, to be used for readjustment counseling, related mental health services, and treatment and rehabilitative services for veterans with mental illness, post-traumatic stress disorder, or substance use disorder.%u201D McCain voted against, .
In 2006 McCain voted against a bill that would, %u201CTo support the health needs of our veterans and military personnel and reduce the deficit by making tax rates fairer for all americans

As a vet of Vietnam, I cannot vote for McCain. Iwas on the fence but when he chose Palin and began distorting facts and issuing misleading statements, I will now vote for Obama.

[dennisam01]

The IAVA (Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans for America) has given McCain a D and Obama a B+ when it comes to their veteran voting record. I should also mention that Obama is on the veteran affairs committee.
He definitely isn%u2019t getting any support from VoteVets.org.
The Vietnam Veterans of Americasays McCain has voted against them in 15 key votes. I should also note the Obama only voted against them once.
The Disabled Veterans of Americagave McCain a 20% rating while Obama got an 80% rating on their voting records from this organization

[dennisam01]

Michael07 you may want to explain it away like that but from a guy who said we owe a debt that can never be repaid thats not a great explaination . And with stop loss and other such programs who needs reinlistments and so like I said if you want to explain to guys that lost limbs and have lost use of limbs that Sorry John Mccain my guy doesn''t think you served long enough to get GI Bills bebe''s and that still does not explain the 20 billion he voted against for VA hospitals and clinics and what was it another 430 million for outpatient services and all the rest he voted against

[starleo146]

Mc Same said in the debate, the veterans know I love him, they know I will do all I can for them.He is outrageous, and pitiful really. Any one that would go to Baghdad and walk down the street and say "See it is safe", and hide a battalion to protect the fool, like they didn''t have better things to do. I tell you this man will go to any length to be president. He is not right in the head.

[michaelm07]

Yeah Dennis, he did say that and the reason he voted against the bill was because it stated it was the same comp for a 3 year vet as compared with a career soldier which, discourages reinlistments. Plain and simple but go ahead and charcterize it as you think helps your boy Barack.

[starleo146]

Bush stopped all pictures of our fighting men who gave there lives for us, no pictures he said, I wish all our beautiful men would make a circle around the White House, who have been injured, and affected with PTSD and let him see what he has done, and may that picture never leave his mind as long as he is on this Earth, and then go to Congress and say give us our benefits.

[michaelm07]

Dennisam01,
Probably another loser with no frame of reference. As for the chicken and Col Sanders, how would you know Mr. Wizard? Pull your head out of your 4th point of contact.

[dennisam01]

This is what he said As President, I will do everything in my power to ensure that those who serve today and those who have served in the past have access to the highest quality health, mental health and rehabilitative care in the world. The disgrace of Walter Reed must not be forgotten. %u2026 Whatever our commitments to veterans cost, we will keep them, as you have kept every commitment to us. The honor of a great nation is at stake.

This is what he did%u2013 Voted AGAINST an amendment providing $20 billion to the VA%u2019s medical facilities. [5/4/06]

%u2013 Voted AGAINST providing $430 million to the VA for outpatient care %u201Cand treatment for veterans,%u201D one of only 13 senators to do so. [4/26/06]

%u2013 Voted AGAINST increasing VA funding by $1.5 billion by closing corporate loopholes. [3/14/06]

%u2013 Voted AGAINST increasing VA funding by $1.8 billion by ending %u201Cabusive tax loopholes.%u201D [3/10/04]

%u2013 Voted AGAINST FOR a $650 million increase in veterans%u2019 medical care funding. [8/1/01]

[dennisam01]

a veteran voting for John McCain is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders

[michaelm07]

Rickwar you''re a punk. Why don''t you refer to the revised code of conduct that was a result of Vietnam instead of the old code that suits you and other spineless Obama losers.

http://www.vetshome.com/military_code_of_conduct.htm

It says to the best of your ability and accept no favors - seems he did this and asfor Rick''war'' - video games or being a staff-puke or PX soldier don''t mean much.


Signed:
Airborne / SF veteran

[dennisam01]

October 2003: McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq and to reduce the amount provided for reconstruction in Iraq by $322,000,000.

April 2003: McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.

August 2001: McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000. To his credit, he also voted against the 2001 Bush tax cuts, which he now supports making permanent, despite the dire financial condition this country is in, and despite the fact that he indicated in 2001 that these tax cuts unfairly benefited the very wealthy at the expense of the middle class.

So there it is. John McCain is yet another republican former military veteran who likes to talk a big game when it comes to having the support of the military. Yet, time and time again, he has gone out of his way to vote against the needs of those who are serving in our military. If he can%u2019t even see his way to actually doing what the troops want, or what the veterans need, and he doesn%u2019t have the support of veterans, then how can he be a credible commander in chief?

[starleo146]

What lies were there ? I said "or, say my terrorist friends on the new interview" I didn''''t say he said it, but he did say "my muslim faith" did he not ?

Posted by Minuteman-7 at 12:23 PM : Sep 29, 2008
+ report abu

You are the kind of people who hurt this country, not because you vote for Mc Same ,but because you use the same old tactics of the republican party, but not all some are opening there eyes, and are saying," No More". I do not expect you to, because you are filled with hate, and you are the kind we do not need here,just stuck with your bigoted mind.